Is GAL just letting anyone in? What ECNL should have done

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously too embarrassed of their team to even post the age group. Very likely if they did, folks would find that team would have trouble competing with NCSL Div 1 let alone an elite team. Best of luck to you.


Please explain to me why I would ever expose my kid to you? Seriously, you think your ECNL patch earns you the right to know who my kid plays for?

I don't see any of you offering up your kids team, all you do is talk about your league and the great clubs in your league but you never seem to talk about your teams accomplishments. Considering there are only three top ECNL teams out of 18 in NoVA and 4 teams in dead last I'd probably just keep things to the league if I was you too.

Which ECNL team with a losing record is your kid on that most decent players couldn't walk onto? Which last place ECNL team in NoVA does your kid play for that could probably replace 10 kids and get immediately better? Frankly in our region your patch doesn't mean squat because most of the teams suck at that level.



Not PP, but have you actually looked at ECNL standings to see the strength of the NoVA clubs? The average placing for all four NoVA clubs (24) across all age groups is 6.2. Obviously for an 11 team league, the average of all teams would be 5.5 so NoVA teams are just below the mean. I don't think you can support the argument that NoVA teams in the MA division are weak based on this. They have a pretty normal distribution.


3 teams are in the top half 4 teams are in dead last and the rest are at or below .500.

Yes, our region is weak.


Go do the math champ. NoVA teams are a tick below average in MA. 5 first place teams, 6 last place teams and the rest are scattered in the middle.


A tick below average means they are below average. 6 last place teams? Seriously? That is terrible. There are no power clubs in the Mid-Atlantic during the season and now with NC Courage things just got worse.

Sorry mate, your ECNL teams are BELOW average. And as far as "middle of the pack", they are below middle of the pack. No matter how you slice it, there isn't a dominant ECNL club in NoVA and the argument of "just wear the patch" will do your last place teams no good in showcases.

It is ok, it isn't your fault the region is diluted but it is your fault that you are so deluded to believe that a ECNL patch in this region means anything.


Yet still, his kid is a better player than your kid, EDP mom.


Nope.

The record says our region ECNL teams are below average for the conference and the conference is at best average across the entire league.

This tells me that the players, like their records are below average ECNL players, which makes them good, but not great players. Good players are not untouchable. Yes, there are lots of kids out there who could take a spot on any of the diluted teams.

I mean, you're the ones who are constantly in GA threads just trying to get players to move over because you know RELATIVELY that your teams suck. It is a bitch trying to recruit players to crappy teams, that is why you pump your league over your team. If your teams were all that you wouldn't be in this thread at all. So, please tell us all your team so that we can be "impressed" with your "just a tick below average" team.


GA has a lot of really good girls, EDP not so much.

Name your club and/or year otherwise this dialogue is worthless.


My kids club is irrelevant, tell us about your amazing ECNL team that has so many exceptional players on it that nobody’s kid could ever dream to make.


Actually, your kid’s club is uniquely relevant. You hijacked this thread with the falsehood that any of your DDs teammates could walk into any area ECNL team. Time to put up. What club and/or year?

Until you answer this simple question, the back and forth means nothing. I don’t blame you for being coy. I wouldn’t feel comfortable saying things that aren’t true publicly either.


You’re talking about the superiority of ECNL players in a GA thread, don’t talk to me about hijacking.

Tell us about your amazing ECNL team or go away. I’m not compelled to tell you anything about me that you are unwilling to share about yourself.


Right. Just as I thought. Sorry your DD couldn’t cut it. Maybe if she trains hard, with all the corona related financial dropouts maybe a spot will open up for her in the spring.
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Sorry your team isn’t good enough to tell us all about, especially for the amount of money you spend.

Just as I thought.




Clown.


You’re a pretty crappy recruiter if you can’t even tell the team you’re affiliated with.
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Anonymous wrote:Obviously too embarrassed of their team to even post the age group. Very likely if they did, folks would find that team would have trouble competing with NCSL Div 1 let alone an elite team. Best of luck to you.


Please explain to me why I would ever expose my kid to you? Seriously, you think your ECNL patch earns you the right to know who my kid plays for?

I don't see any of you offering up your kids team, all you do is talk about your league and the great clubs in your league but you never seem to talk about your teams accomplishments. Considering there are only three top ECNL teams out of 18 in NoVA and 4 teams in dead last I'd probably just keep things to the league if I was you too.

Which ECNL team with a losing record is your kid on that most decent players couldn't walk onto? Which last place ECNL team in NoVA does your kid play for that could probably replace 10 kids and get immediately better? Frankly in our region your patch doesn't mean squat because most of the teams suck at that level.



Not PP, but have you actually looked at ECNL standings to see the strength of the NoVA clubs? The average placing for all four NoVA clubs (24) across all age groups is 6.2. Obviously for an 11 team league, the average of all teams would be 5.5 so NoVA teams are just below the mean. I don't think you can support the argument that NoVA teams in the MA division are weak based on this. They have a pretty normal distribution.


3 teams are in the top half 4 teams are in dead last and the rest are at or below .500.

Yes, our region is weak.


I don't agree that NOVA "region" is weak, because in four out of six age groups the top team comes from our region. Here are the top teams in each age group:

U13- Loudoun (1st) McLean (3rd)
U14- VDA (1st)
U15 - McLean (3rd)
U16-- no NOVA teams in the top 3. I think this is the only age group where you can legitimately say that our region is weak
U17- BRYC (1st)
U19 - McLean (1st); BRYC (3rd)

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously too embarrassed of their team to even post the age group. Very likely if they did, folks would find that team would have trouble competing with NCSL Div 1 let alone an elite team. Best of luck to you.


Please explain to me why I would ever expose my kid to you? Seriously, you think your ECNL patch earns you the right to know who my kid plays for?

I don't see any of you offering up your kids team, all you do is talk about your league and the great clubs in your league but you never seem to talk about your teams accomplishments. Considering there are only three top ECNL teams out of 18 in NoVA and 4 teams in dead last I'd probably just keep things to the league if I was you too.

Which ECNL team with a losing record is your kid on that most decent players couldn't walk onto? Which last place ECNL team in NoVA does your kid play for that could probably replace 10 kids and get immediately better? Frankly in our region your patch doesn't mean squat because most of the teams suck at that level.



Not PP, but have you actually looked at ECNL standings to see the strength of the NoVA clubs? The average placing for all four NoVA clubs (24) across all age groups is 6.2. Obviously for an 11 team league, the average of all teams would be 5.5 so NoVA teams are just below the mean. I don't think you can support the argument that NoVA teams in the MA division are weak based on this. They have a pretty normal distribution.


3 teams are in the top half 4 teams are in dead last and the rest are at or below .500.

Yes, our region is weak.


I don't agree that NOVA "region" is weak, because in four out of six age groups the top team comes from our region. Here are the top teams in each age group:

U13- Loudoun (1st) McLean (3rd)
U14- VDA (1st)
U15 - McLean (3rd)
U16-- no NOVA teams in the top 3. I think this is the only age group where you can legitimately say that our region is weak
U17- BRYC (1st)
U19 - McLean (1st); BRYC (3rd)



And EVERY age group has a NoVA team in last place.
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Anonymous wrote:Obviously too embarrassed of their team to even post the age group. Very likely if they did, folks would find that team would have trouble competing with NCSL Div 1 let alone an elite team. Best of luck to you.


Please explain to me why I would ever expose my kid to you? Seriously, you think your ECNL patch earns you the right to know who my kid plays for?

I don't see any of you offering up your kids team, all you do is talk about your league and the great clubs in your league but you never seem to talk about your teams accomplishments. Considering there are only three top ECNL teams out of 18 in NoVA and 4 teams in dead last I'd probably just keep things to the league if I was you too.

Which ECNL team with a losing record is your kid on that most decent players couldn't walk onto? Which last place ECNL team in NoVA does your kid play for that could probably replace 10 kids and get immediately better? Frankly in our region your patch doesn't mean squat because most of the teams suck at that level.



Not PP, but have you actually looked at ECNL standings to see the strength of the NoVA clubs? The average placing for all four NoVA clubs (24) across all age groups is 6.2. Obviously for an 11 team league, the average of all teams would be 5.5 so NoVA teams are just below the mean. I don't think you can support the argument that NoVA teams in the MA division are weak based on this. They have a pretty normal distribution.


3 teams are in the top half 4 teams are in dead last and the rest are at or below .500.

Yes, our region is weak.


I don't agree that NOVA "region" is weak, because in four out of six age groups the top team comes from our region. Here are the top teams in each age group:

U13- Loudoun (1st) McLean (3rd)
U14- VDA (1st)
U15 - McLean (3rd)
U16-- no NOVA teams in the top 3. I think this is the only age group where you can legitimately say that our region is weak
U17- BRYC (1st)
U19 - McLean (1st); BRYC (3rd)



And EVERY age group has a NoVA team in last place.


Saturation dummy. Saturation. We have some of the best players in the nation. Our teams suffer due to oversaturation. In the big scheme of things our teams winning don’t mean squat. All that matters is learning, having fun, and for those chosen few, getting some sort of scholarship to play in college. As far as who finishes first, last in the middle, it don’t really matter.
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Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.
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Anonymous wrote:Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.


And your daughters team still couldn't beat them. That's really telling
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Obviously too embarrassed of their team to even post the age group. Very likely if they did, folks would find that team would have trouble competing with NCSL Div 1 let alone an elite team. Best of luck to you.


Please explain to me why I would ever expose my kid to you? Seriously, you think your ECNL patch earns you the right to know who my kid plays for?

I don't see any of you offering up your kids team, all you do is talk about your league and the great clubs in your league but you never seem to talk about your teams accomplishments. Considering there are only three top ECNL teams out of 18 in NoVA and 4 teams in dead last I'd probably just keep things to the league if I was you too.

Which ECNL team with a losing record is your kid on that most decent players couldn't walk onto? Which last place ECNL team in NoVA does your kid play for that could probably replace 10 kids and get immediately better? Frankly in our region your patch doesn't mean squat because most of the teams suck at that level.



Not PP, but have you actually looked at ECNL standings to see the strength of the NoVA clubs? The average placing for all four NoVA clubs (24) across all age groups is 6.2. Obviously for an 11 team league, the average of all teams would be 5.5 so NoVA teams are just below the mean. I don't think you can support the argument that NoVA teams in the MA division are weak based on this. They have a pretty normal distribution.


3 teams are in the top half 4 teams are in dead last and the rest are at or below .500.

Yes, our region is weak.


I don't agree that NOVA "region" is weak, because in four out of six age groups the top team comes from our region. Here are the top teams in each age group:

U13- Loudoun (1st) McLean (3rd)
U14- VDA (1st)
U15 - McLean (3rd)
U16-- no NOVA teams in the top 3. I think this is the only age group where you can legitimately say that our region is weak
U17- BRYC (1st)
U19 - McLean (1st); BRYC (3rd)



And EVERY age group has a NoVA team in last place.


Saturation dummy. Saturation. We have some of the best players in the nation. Our teams suffer due to oversaturation. In the big scheme of things our teams winning don’t mean squat. All that matters is learning, having fun, and for those chosen few, getting some sort of scholarship to play in college. As far as who finishes first, last in the middle, it don’t really matter.


Anyone that says a team is weak if they're not in the top 3 is wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.


You can keep throwing that up here, and people might start to believe it, but the numbers don't lie.
Clearly, you know nothing about probability and statistics. There are 24 NoVA teams out of 66 MA ECNL teams. NoVA teams have their expected share of first and last place teams and are decidedly average as a whole. There is one national championship contender out of the entire MA lot, and that team is in NoVA.
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Anonymous wrote:Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.


You can keep throwing that up here, and people might start to believe it, but the numbers don't lie.
Clearly, you know nothing about probability and statistics. There are 24 NoVA teams out of 66 MA ECNL teams. NoVA teams have their expected share of first and last place teams and are decidedly average as a whole. There is one national championship contender out of the entire MA lot, and that team is in NoVA.


Last place representation in every age group does matter especially in the context of so many other teams below the middle of the pack, even if just by tick.

There are few ECNL regions with a cluster of teams like NoVA has and our region representing last place in every age group is no anomaly considering the dilution. So talk all you want about the patch and superiority of ECNL girls over other girls in “lesser” leagues and our performance in conference demonstrates that many of the girls are simply not elite, not extraordinary and are in fact simply good players.

This isn’t the kids fault, the rosters need to be filled and clubs need paying customers and the truth is many colleges simply need “good” players. So, congrats I guess, but don’t tell me that your kid is better than mine because of a patch.

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Anonymous wrote:Last place but they hey, they are in ECNL.

That every age group last place is occupied by a NoVA team is telling.


You can keep throwing that up here, and people might start to believe it, but the numbers don't lie.
Clearly, you know nothing about probability and statistics. There are 24 NoVA teams out of 66 MA ECNL teams. NoVA teams have their expected share of first and last place teams and are decidedly average as a whole. There is one national championship contender out of the entire MA lot, and that team is in NoVA.


Last place representation in every age group does matter especially in the context of so many other teams below the middle of the pack, even if just by tick.

There are few ECNL regions with a cluster of teams like NoVA has and our region representing last place in every age group is no anomaly considering the dilution. So talk all you want about the patch and superiority of ECNL girls over other girls in “lesser” leagues and our performance in conference demonstrates that many of the girls are simply not elite, not extraordinary and are in fact simply good players.

This isn’t the kids fault, the rosters need to be filled and clubs need paying customers and the truth is many colleges simply need “good” players. So, congrats I guess, but don’t tell me that your kid is better than mine because of a patch.



Because a parent is the best judge of their child’s talent. Just post up your club and age group so objective minds can make that assessment. It’s not that difficult. We won’t know who YOU are. Right now, you are lashing out with a chip on your shoulder, but there’s nothing backing up your case. Surely, once you post the club and age group, we’ll see the brilliance of your team and how it’s top players could easily displace our last place teams’ players. We are waiting.
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ebruary 2019:
PDA 05 vs FCV 05: PDA won 5-0

August 2019: FCV vs Richmond United:
U19 FCV won 3-1
U17 Richmond won 3-2
U16 Richmond won 2-1 (FCV 04)
U15 FCV won 4-1
U14 FCV won 2-0
U13 tie 2-2

Friendly - January 2020
FCV 04 DA vs Maryland United ECNL: Won 1-0 (penalty)
FCV 04 DA vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Tie 1-1
VDA 04 ECNL vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Won 3-0

Penn Fusion Showcase - February 2020
FCV 04 DA vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 0-0

Maryland United Showcase – February 2020
Loudoun 04 ECNL vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 0-0
Loudoun 04 ECNL vs PDA BLUE ECNL: Tie 0-0
VDA 04 ECNL vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 1-1
VDA 04 ECNL vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Won 4-0
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The number of last place teams is almost completely balanced by the number of first place teams in NoVA. If anything, the distribution is bathtub shaped with a more than normal number of first and last place teams. Those first and last place teams are distributed across all age groups too, so there are no generalizations to be made about age groups. It stands to reason that the area is diluted in general, but that would also include some of the NoVA EDP teams. Regardless, the argument that NoVA ECNL teams in MA are weak cannot be made based on this years standings. I am not about to do this, but a better indicator of ECNL vs EDP strength might come from stacking up the head to head records of NoVA ECNL clubs against EDP clubs. I suspect you would find that ECNL teams own a distinct advantage and that most people would agree. On an individual player level, there are obviously going to be EDP players who could easily play on NoVA ECNL teams but the average skill level is lower.
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Anonymous wrote:The number of last place teams is almost completely balanced by the number of first place teams in NoVA. If anything, the distribution is bathtub shaped with a more than normal number of first and last place teams. Those first and last place teams are distributed across all age groups too, so there are no generalizations to be made about age groups. It stands to reason that the area is diluted in general, but that would also include some of the NoVA EDP teams. Regardless, the argument that NoVA ECNL teams in MA are weak cannot be made based on this years standings. I am not about to do this, but a better indicator of ECNL vs EDP strength might come from stacking up the head to head records of NoVA ECNL clubs against EDP clubs. I suspect you would find that ECNL teams own a distinct advantage and that most people would agree. On an individual player level, there are obviously going to be EDP players who could easily play on NoVA ECNL teams but the average skill level is lower.


Of course, belying this is the fact that almost all of the elite clubs have second teams in the second tier of EDP/CCL/NPL and thus, these players have already been considered and denied on their top (ECNL or GA teams). This parent must be in a club where EDP is the ceiling for girls teams. This may have outed them already, but I haven’t done the research to see exactly which DC area proper clubs are in this position.
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SOCA 04 is the state champion and winner of Bethesda Cup. They have won the vast majority of their games and have NEVER lost by more than one or two. Their worst defeat, ever, game at the hands of an ECNL team.

Saturday, February 08, 2020

SOCA ELITE 04 (0 - 3) VIRGINIA DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL

SOCA ELITE 04 U16G (2 - 1) ALEXANDRIA '04G RED

SOCA ELITE 04 U16G (4 - 0) LOUDOUN SOCCER 04G RED

FC FREDERICK FCFREDERICK '04 (0 - 2) SOCA ELITE 04

WEST-MONT UNITED SA PREMIER (1 - 3) SOCA ELITE 04

LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED (1 - 4) SOCA ELITE 04

So forth and so on.

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Some of you are under the impression that U-little scores and rankings mean something. It doesn't. Nothing matters until HS. Stick around, you will see.
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