Elrich capitulated — MoCo going to Phase 1 on Monday

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From my understanding, Hogan has more than one gate within a phase. Maryland was in Phase 1a and is moving into Phase 1b tomorrow. Phase 1b is pretty similar to everyone else's straight up Phase 1. If, after a week of Phase 1b, trends continue in the right direction, Maryland will start to enter Phase 2. Maryland is NOT entering Phase 2 tomorrow.

Ok that makes sense.

Now, which phase will MoCo enter on Monday? 1a or 1b?

Other parts of MD started 1a two weeks ago, and playgrounds were open (with social distancing rules in place). But as I read MoCo's site, playgrounds are _not_ included?

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail.aspx?Item_ID=25367

Meanwhile, MoCo's site says restaurants outdoor seating is allowed, whihc other MD counties did NOT allow until 1b.

This is confusing. Is MoCo just making up their own rules about what falls into each phase?

Yes, MoCo makes its own rules. They’re taking basically 95% of what Hogan is having Maryland do (aka everything but pools, playgrounds, and indoor retail for small shops).

Ok I'll just chalk this up to typical Elrich bungling. I am fine with them going to each phase when they feel it's right, but at least they should do the same in each phase as the rest of the state. This just makes it confusing.

No, it makes sense to have different rules for each county because the situation is so drastically different in different counties. Hogan explicitly said it is fine for counties to have different rules. I do think there needs to be better messaging by each county so that people know what the rules are.

Then they need to explain why MoCo is both going at a different pace than the rest of the state and is allowing some Phase 1B things (outdoor dining) before Phase 1A things (playgrounds). It makes zero sense why kids should be allowed to have outdoor sports practice, but not play in a playground.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are playgrounds just not enough of a money maker or something? Given the recent guidance about transmission from surfaces being low AND playgrounds being located outside, it’s insane to me that they would still be closed while a a group of adults can play close contact basketball immediately adjacent to a closed playground.

Kids don't know how to cover their mouths. If there are multiple families at the playground that could be a disaster. And my kids would be so jealous and not understand that other kids are playing but they can't

I don’t think men that you see playing sports together like that are supposed to be doing that unless they all live in the same house.

Huh? Outdoor sports have been allowed for awhile. It was a pre Phase 1 thing that included MoCo too. The thing that was added this week was youth sports practice.

[Anonymous]

So A few weeks back, Moco closed the parks for permits through end of June. And most high schools closed for permits

So we got emails from our sports organizations that even though the country opened up for sports , you can’t get a field officially.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From my understanding, Hogan has more than one gate within a phase. Maryland was in Phase 1a and is moving into Phase 1b tomorrow. Phase 1b is pretty similar to everyone else's straight up Phase 1. If, after a week of Phase 1b, trends continue in the right direction, Maryland will start to enter Phase 2. Maryland is NOT entering Phase 2 tomorrow.

Ok that makes sense.

Now, which phase will MoCo enter on Monday? 1a or 1b?

Other parts of MD started 1a two weeks ago, and playgrounds were open (with social distancing rules in place). But as I read MoCo's site, playgrounds are _not_ included?

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail.aspx?Item_ID=25367

Meanwhile, MoCo's site says restaurants outdoor seating is allowed, whihc other MD counties did NOT allow until 1b.

This is confusing. Is MoCo just making up their own rules about what falls into each phase?

Yes, MoCo makes its own rules. They’re taking basically 95% of what Hogan is having Maryland do (aka everything but pools, playgrounds, and indoor retail for small shops).

Ok I'll just chalk this up to typical Elrich bungling. I am fine with them going to each phase when they feel it's right, but at least they should do the same in each phase as the rest of the state. This just makes it confusing.

No, it makes sense to have different rules for each county because the situation is so drastically different in different counties. Hogan explicitly said it is fine for counties to have different rules. I do think there needs to be better messaging by each county so that people know what the rules are.

Then they need to explain why MoCo is both going at a different pace than the rest of the state and is allowing some Phase 1B things (outdoor dining) before Phase 1A things (playgrounds). It makes zero sense why kids should be allowed to have outdoor sports practice, but not play in a playground.

Cause they’re germs and touch things constantly. Get them a soccer ball and kick it around a field if they aren’t getting enough exercise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From my understanding, Hogan has more than one gate within a phase. Maryland was in Phase 1a and is moving into Phase 1b tomorrow. Phase 1b is pretty similar to everyone else's straight up Phase 1. If, after a week of Phase 1b, trends continue in the right direction, Maryland will start to enter Phase 2. Maryland is NOT entering Phase 2 tomorrow.

Ok that makes sense.

Now, which phase will MoCo enter on Monday? 1a or 1b?

Other parts of MD started 1a two weeks ago, and playgrounds were open (with social distancing rules in place). But as I read MoCo's site, playgrounds are _not_ included?

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail.aspx?Item_ID=25367

Meanwhile, MoCo's site says restaurants outdoor seating is allowed, whihc other MD counties did NOT allow until 1b.

This is confusing. Is MoCo just making up their own rules about what falls into each phase?

Yes, MoCo makes its own rules. They’re taking basically 95% of what Hogan is having Maryland do (aka everything but pools, playgrounds, and indoor retail for small shops).

Ok I'll just chalk this up to typical Elrich bungling. I am fine with them going to each phase when they feel it's right, but at least they should do the same in each phase as the rest of the state. This just makes it confusing.

No, it makes sense to have different rules for each county because the situation is so drastically different in different counties. Hogan explicitly said it is fine for counties to have different rules. I do think there needs to be better messaging by each county so that people know what the rules are.

Then they need to explain why MoCo is both going at a different pace than the rest of the state and is allowing some Phase 1B things (outdoor dining) before Phase 1A things (playgrounds). It makes zero sense why kids should be allowed to have outdoor sports practice, but not play in a playground.

Cause they’re germs and touch things constantly. Get them a soccer ball and kick it around a field if they aren’t getting enough exercise.

Lots of places have had playgrounds open for weeks. We haven’t seen massive outbreaks among kids. I really don’t see the issue. We also don’t have evidence that kids are transmitting it to parents in droves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From my understanding, Hogan has more than one gate within a phase. Maryland was in Phase 1a and is moving into Phase 1b tomorrow. Phase 1b is pretty similar to everyone else's straight up Phase 1. If, after a week of Phase 1b, trends continue in the right direction, Maryland will start to enter Phase 2. Maryland is NOT entering Phase 2 tomorrow.

Ok that makes sense.

Now, which phase will MoCo enter on Monday? 1a or 1b?

Other parts of MD started 1a two weeks ago, and playgrounds were open (with social distancing rules in place). But as I read MoCo's site, playgrounds are _not_ included?

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail.aspx?Item_ID=25367

Meanwhile, MoCo's site says restaurants outdoor seating is allowed, whihc other MD counties did NOT allow until 1b.

This is confusing. Is MoCo just making up their own rules about what falls into each phase?

Yes, MoCo makes its own rules. They’re taking basically 95% of what Hogan is having Maryland do (aka everything but pools, playgrounds, and indoor retail for small shops).

Ok I'll just chalk this up to typical Elrich bungling. I am fine with them going to each phase when they feel it's right, but at least they should do the same in each phase as the rest of the state. This just makes it confusing.

No, it makes sense to have different rules for each county because the situation is so drastically different in different counties. Hogan explicitly said it is fine for counties to have different rules. I do think there needs to be better messaging by each county so that people know what the rules are.

Then they need to explain why MoCo is both going at a different pace than the rest of the state and is allowing some Phase 1B things (outdoor dining) before Phase 1A things (playgrounds). It makes zero sense why kids should be allowed to have outdoor sports practice, but not play in a playground.

Cause they’re germs and touch things constantly. Get them a soccer ball and kick it around a field if they aren’t getting enough exercise.

Lots of places have had playgrounds open for weeks. We haven’t seen massive outbreaks among kids. I really don’t see the issue. We also don’t have evidence that kids are transmitting it to parents in droves.

The problem is the inflammation syndrome shows up a lot later in kids who may have been asymptomatic . So we may not know for a while whether playgrounds are safe or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From my understanding, Hogan has more than one gate within a phase. Maryland was in Phase 1a and is moving into Phase 1b tomorrow. Phase 1b is pretty similar to everyone else's straight up Phase 1. If, after a week of Phase 1b, trends continue in the right direction, Maryland will start to enter Phase 2. Maryland is NOT entering Phase 2 tomorrow.

Ok that makes sense.

Now, which phase will MoCo enter on Monday? 1a or 1b?

Other parts of MD started 1a two weeks ago, and playgrounds were open (with social distancing rules in place). But as I read MoCo's site, playgrounds are _not_ included?

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail.aspx?Item_ID=25367

Meanwhile, MoCo's site says restaurants outdoor seating is allowed, whihc other MD counties did NOT allow until 1b.

This is confusing. Is MoCo just making up their own rules about what falls into each phase?

Yes, MoCo makes its own rules. They’re taking basically 95% of what Hogan is having Maryland do (aka everything but pools, playgrounds, and indoor retail for small shops).

Ok I'll just chalk this up to typical Elrich bungling. I am fine with them going to each phase when they feel it's right, but at least they should do the same in each phase as the rest of the state. This just makes it confusing.

No, it makes sense to have different rules for each county because the situation is so drastically different in different counties. Hogan explicitly said it is fine for counties to have different rules. I do think there needs to be better messaging by each county so that people know what the rules are.

Then they need to explain why MoCo is both going at a different pace than the rest of the state and is allowing some Phase 1B things (outdoor dining) before Phase 1A things (playgrounds). It makes zero sense why kids should be allowed to have outdoor sports practice, but not play in a playground.

Cause they’re germs and touch things constantly. Get them a soccer ball and kick it around a field if they aren’t getting enough exercise.

Lots of places have had playgrounds open for weeks. We haven’t seen massive outbreaks among kids. I really don’t see the issue. We also don’t have evidence that kids are transmitting it to parents in droves.

The problem is the inflammation syndrome shows up a lot later in kids who may have been asymptomatic . So we may not know for a while whether playgrounds are safe or not.

They’ve been open in many states for over a month. Also, they have an effective treatment for the inflammation syndrome now. That’s why you haven’t heard much about it lately.

[Anonymous]

I wonder in which "face" the "protesters" are.
Considering the riots are organized by Antifa and the Dems I am sure they have special permits to be outside in large groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder in which "face" the "protesters" are.
Considering the riots are organized by Antifa and the Dems I am sure they have special permits to be outside in large groups.

You again. Seriously. Cut it out. Your nonsense is showing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder in which "face" the "protesters" are.
Considering the riots are organized by Antifa and the Dems I am sure they have special permits to be outside in large groups.

You again. Seriously. Cut it out. Your nonsense is showing.

Agree! I hate the ANTIFA obsessed poster.

[Anonymous]

Where is the prohibition against playgrounds in print? I don’t see that anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Playgrounds in Maryland state parks are allowed to be open now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where is the prohibition against playgrounds in print? I don’t see that anywhere.

It’s on here. It’s hard to find, so do a find for “playgrounds.”

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OEMHS/COVID19-Closures.html

It’s honestly ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Playgrounds in Maryland state parks are allowed to be open now.

Yes, that happened weeks ago. But Elrich is instituting Phase 1B activities before things like playgrounds, which Hogan opened at least 2 weeks ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where is the prohibition against playgrounds in print? I don’t see that anywhere.

It’s on here. It’s hard to find, so do a find for “playgrounds.”

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OEMHS/COVID19-Closures.html

It’s honestly ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous? As soon as they open kids will flick to them and then I’ll be the mean parent Not letting my kids on. It’s not safe.