So is MOCO just never opening?

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Seventh State wrote about this today:
http://www.theseventhstate.com/?p=12829

MoCo has 12 criteria for re-opening, yet only reports to the public data on a few of those. Why not report on them all? The public deserves to know.

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Anonymous wrote:A 15 year old girl just died in Baltimore.

I think we’re about to see this disease start hitting young people and teens very hard, as it runs out of older victims. It’s going to shift itself towards younger people who make better hosts and pass on more infection before they die.

Sadly, I think you're right. Young people suddenly developing heart failure is going to change some people's minds.

That makes zero sense. So the virus will suddenly start killing younger people in huge numbers?

It is starting to kill young people. Why do we need "huge numbers"? The virus is changing -- or its effects on people is changing, or our ability to keep track of the way it's affecting people is. It seems like young people who were exposed to COVID19 have terrible symptoms several weeks after the fact. That means the idea that young people get it and are asymptomatic is not true. I don't want my kids to wake up in cardiac arrest.

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Anonymous wrote:Parks, camps and nonessential stores need to stay closed until there’s a vaccine. Even curbside pick up is too risky.

Schools too.

Ha wow. Yeah, not happening. You guys really need to come to reality. A vaccine may never be effective. We cannot wait for a hope like that.

I agree. But we CAN wait until there aren't very many cases circulating, so we're not likely to be exposed to it.

[Anonymous]

they need to take the nursing home cases out of the equation.

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Anonymous wrote:Parks, camps and nonessential stores need to stay closed until there’s a vaccine. Even curbside pick up is too risky.

Schools too.

Ha wow. Yeah, not happening. You guys really need to come to reality. A vaccine may never be effective. We cannot wait for a hope like that.

I agree. But we CAN wait until there aren't very many cases circulating, so we're not likely to be exposed to it.

MD can contact trace 1,000 cases right now. That’s about the number of new cases each day. They’re continually increasing contact tracing operations, so we can deal with more cases, assuming case numbers do go up as restrictions are relaxed.

So how low do the new case numbers need to go each day for you to feel comfortable?

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Anonymous wrote:they need to take the nursing home cases out of the equation.

This. It’s totally absurd to count people who were almost dead already!

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Anonymous wrote:Parks, camps and nonessential stores need to stay closed until there’s a vaccine. Even curbside pick up is too risky.

Schools too.

Ha wow. Yeah, not happening. You guys really need to come to reality. A vaccine may never be effective. We cannot wait for a hope like that.

I agree. But we CAN wait until there aren't very many cases circulating, so we're not likely to be exposed to it.

MD can contact trace 1,000 cases right now. That’s about the number of new cases each day. They’re continually increasing contact tracing operations, so we can deal with more cases, assuming case numbers do go up as restrictions are relaxed.

So how low do the new case numbers need to go each day for you to feel comfortable?

14 consecutive days of decline like Hogan and Trump said from the start.

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Anonymous wrote:The announcement that the stay at home order will be continuing "until further notice" is alarming.

Ugh.

There's plenty that's open in Montgomery County right now - and has been open all along. You might have to wait a bit longer to get your nails done or your hair cut.

The point is that the longer they don't go officially into phase 1 the longer it will be until childcare, camps and pools open. Which is what I am waiting for.

You will be waiting until May 2021.

Unless you live in CT, in which case your kid can go to a summer camp this summer.

Under certain conditions. Which are...?

Under current conditions. Day camps can open June 29.

https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-in-ct-summer-camps-can-open-june-29-but-not-overnight-camps/2269441/

No, the question is - how are camps required to operate, when they open?

Read the article. Some MoCo camps are aiming for July 6 also. I just got an email from one, in fact.

The Office of Early Childhood says summer camps can open on June 29 in the state with specific guidance in place. That guidance includes enhanced health screening, limiting group size to no more than 10 children with the camp needing permission to serve more than 30, for employees to wear cloth face masks, to implement hand and respiratory hygiene, develop protocols for intensified cleaning and disinfection, and to implement social distancing strategies.

I doubt Elrich and Gayles will let camps open in MoCo on July 6.

This is just the start of cancellations:
https://www.montgomeryparks.org/parks-and-trails/black-hill-nature-programs/current-programming/summer-camps/

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parks, camps and nonessential stores need to stay closed until there’s a vaccine. Even curbside pick up is too risky.

Schools too.

Ha wow. Yeah, not happening. You guys really need to come to reality. A vaccine may never be effective. We cannot wait for a hope like that.

I agree. But we CAN wait until there aren't very many cases circulating, so we're not likely to be exposed to it.

MD can contact trace 1,000 cases right now. That’s about the number of new cases each day. They’re continually increasing contact tracing operations, so we can deal with more cases, assuming case numbers do go up as restrictions are relaxed.

So how low do the new case numbers need to go each day for you to feel comfortable?

14 consecutive days of decline like Hogan and Trump said from the start.

And 14 days declines in deaths. Which means bringing it to zero for moco

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parks, camps and nonessential stores need to stay closed until there’s a vaccine. Even curbside pick up is too risky.

Schools too.

Ha wow. Yeah, not happening. You guys really need to come to reality. A vaccine may never be effective. We cannot wait for a hope like that.

I agree. But we CAN wait until there aren't very many cases circulating, so we're not likely to be exposed to it.

MD can contact trace 1,000 cases right now. That’s about the number of new cases each day. They’re continually increasing contact tracing operations, so we can deal with more cases, assuming case numbers do go up as restrictions are relaxed.

So how low do the new case numbers need to go each day for you to feel comfortable?

14 consecutive days of decline like Hogan and Trump said from the start.

No. That’s not the criteria Hogan is using. He’s using plateau or decline in ICU and hospitalizations. Keep up.

[Anonymous]

No vaccine?

No reopening.

Period. End of thread.

[Anonymous]

Modified Phase 1 is in effect up in HoCo. Not that great and not that different from where we are now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No vaccine?

No reopening.

Period. End of thread.

You again? Crazy sauce here in aisle 5!

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Anonymous wrote:they need to take the nursing home cases out of the equation.

This. It’s totally absurd to count people who were almost dead already!

Nice.

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Anonymous wrote:they need to take the nursing home cases out of the equation.

This. It’s totally absurd to count people who were almost dead already!

Nice.

Actually, they need to be treated differently because they’re not community spread deaths, so they’re not indicative of the virus circulating in the broader community. That’s how Hogan is considering it (it’s in MD’s reopening plan), but in MoCo Elrich and Gayles aren’t separating them out.