Superbowl halftime - scantily dressed women and very covered up men

[Anonymous]

So glad I put my kids to bed before the show.

My (Latino, btw) husband was too. He said he really wouldn’t have wanted our daughter or son watching JLo’s sleazy performance.

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Anonymous wrote:I hated it. The last thing I want my daughters to think is that what is 'empowering' for women is to dance half naked in sexual ways for the enjoyment of men. That has been happening for generation and generation in strip clubs. I don't particularly think it is all that empowering. It that is what others want for their daughters - great. Teach them to take their clothes off and pole dance and shake their bodies and simulate sex for men's enjoyment. We don't look to strip clubs as our model for female empowerment.

As someone said we don't teach boys to take off their clothes and use their bodies for women's enjoyment.

It’s past your bedtime.

I agree with pp 100%.
Women's empowerment, my ass.
This was objectification of women.

Completely. Total objectification of both women. Clearly they don’t have a lot of musical talent to offer if they have to sell their bodies like that. The show was pathetic and trashy. I think it’s so sad that women with millions of dollars think they should get up on a stage and act like that.

This must be the first time you saw either of them perform. It was exactly what I expected from both of them. It’s football, not church.

This is a fair point. I don’t attend concerts and don’t like mainstream entertainment. I’m a very high earner with kids in private school. I have multiple degrees. I’m very far removed from someone like J Lo.

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Anonymous wrote:I hated it. The last thing I want my daughters to think is that what is 'empowering' for women is to dance half naked in sexual ways for the enjoyment of men. That has been happening for generation and generation in strip clubs. I don't particularly think it is all that empowering. It that is what others want for their daughters - great. Teach them to take their clothes off and pole dance and shake their bodies and simulate sex for men's enjoyment. We don't look to strip clubs as our model for female empowerment.

As someone said we don't teach boys to take off their clothes and use their bodies for women's enjoyment.

I dunno. I loved the show. My 8yo daughter watched it—she’s a gymnast who can shimmy to the top of a rope, so she had some idea how physically difficult it is to do what JLo did.

I truly think this thread reflects some WW pearl clutching at JLo’s performance. I think they are disturbed by a curvy non-white woman gyrating, tbh. I thought overall it was great. And great that my brown daughter 1st gen daughter could see this performance by Latinas as representative of the future America, a multicultural America.

I found the show racist. They put two women of color on stage and had them dance like strippers. Would they have white women dancing like that? Lady Gaga didn’t dance like that. The sad truth is that they had to wear less clothing and dance like that because they are minorities. And people are more accepting of it because they are minorities.

Sad but hilarious you think it’s a good thing your first grader watched two minorities disrespect themselves on national tv for white producers.

I'm with you on the super racist part...but, I think JayZ and Beyonce were the producers.

[Anonymous]

I tried to watch it but became so bored by both of them that I gave up and switched to Netflix. Yawn.

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Anonymous wrote:I hated it. The last thing I want my daughters to think is that what is 'empowering' for women is to dance half naked in sexual ways for the enjoyment of men. That has been happening for generation and generation in strip clubs. I don't particularly think it is all that empowering. It that is what others want for their daughters - great. Teach them to take their clothes off and pole dance and shake their bodies and simulate sex for men's enjoyment. We don't look to strip clubs as our model for female empowerment.

As someone said we don't teach boys to take off their clothes and use their bodies for women's enjoyment.

It’s past your bedtime.

I agree with pp 100%.
Women's empowerment, my ass.
This was objectification of women.

Completely. Total objectification of both women. Clearly they don’t have a lot of musical talent to offer if they have to sell their bodies like that. The show was pathetic and trashy. I think it’s so sad that women with millions of dollars think they should get up on a stage and act like that.

This must be the first time you saw either of them perform. It was exactly what I expected from both of them. It’s football, not church.

This is a fair point. I don’t attend concerts and don’t like mainstream entertainment. I’m a very high earner with kids in private school. I have multiple degrees. I’m very far removed from someone like J Lo.

Oh f@ck off, Karen!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Engineer here. Live audio is tough in that type of environment and stage setup. You can't really place monitor speakers anywhere since the stage and performer move around a huge amount, and the sound guys go nuts as the performers move because you risk feedback/reverb depending on their positioning in relation to the speakers. It's a 360-degrees stage and audience, so there's never a "behind the stage" direction where your audio is "safe" from feedback. No matter which way they face, there's audience speakers behind them ready to kill their mic with feedback.

Some parts of the audio were live -- you could tell as the voices had more of an echo effect when they did, but still my hats off to the audio engineers for making it work.. and to the gaffers and grips -- they set up that entire stage in about 10 minutes, then tore it all down again in 10 minutes.

I love when DCUMers add expertise in areas where they’re actually expert.

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Anonymous wrote:I hated it. The last thing I want my daughters to think is that what is 'empowering' for women is to dance half naked in sexual ways for the enjoyment of men. That has been happening for generation and generation in strip clubs. I don't particularly think it is all that empowering. It that is what others want for their daughters - great. Teach them to take their clothes off and pole dance and shake their bodies and simulate sex for men's enjoyment. We don't look to strip clubs as our model for female empowerment.

As someone said we don't teach boys to take off their clothes and use their bodies for women's enjoyment.

I dunno. I loved the show. My 8yo daughter watched it—she’s a gymnast who can shimmy to the top of a rope, so she had some idea how physically difficult it is to do what JLo did.

I truly think this thread reflects some WW pearl clutching at JLo’s performance. I think they are disturbed by a curvy non-white woman gyrating, tbh. I thought overall it was great. And great that my brown daughter 1st gen daughter could see this performance by Latinas as representative of the future America, a multicultural America.

I found the show racist. They put two women of color on stage and had them dance like strippers. Would they have white women dancing like that? Lady Gaga didn’t dance like that. The sad truth is that they had to wear less clothing and dance like that because they are minorities. And people are more accepting of it because they are minorities.

Sad but hilarious you think it’s a good thing your first grader watched two minorities disrespect themselves on national tv for white producers.

Way to strip them entirely of their agency and, to a certain extent, their cultures. Dancing like this is not exclusively done by strippers in other parts of the world. Your Puritan background is showing.

[Anonymous]

I am 46. I am astonished at their bodies! No way can I imagine looking that toned today. Mad props to both of them for being able to maintain their figures.

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Anonymous wrote:I hated it. The last thing I want my daughters to think is that what is 'empowering' for women is to dance half naked in sexual ways for the enjoyment of men. That has been happening for generation and generation in strip clubs. I don't particularly think it is all that empowering. It that is what others want for their daughters - great. Teach them to take their clothes off and pole dance and shake their bodies and simulate sex for men's enjoyment. We don't look to strip clubs as our model for female empowerment.

As someone said we don't teach boys to take off their clothes and use their bodies for women's enjoyment.

It’s past your bedtime.

I agree with pp 100%.
Women's empowerment, my ass.
This was objectification of women.

Completely. Total objectification of both women. Clearly they don’t have a lot of musical talent to offer if they have to sell their bodies like that. The show was pathetic and trashy. I think it’s so sad that women with millions of dollars think they should get up on a stage and act like that.

This must be the first time you saw either of them perform. It was exactly what I expected from both of them. It’s football, not church.

This is a fair point. I don’t attend concerts and don’t like mainstream entertainment. I’m a very high earner with kids in private school. I have multiple degrees. I’m very far removed from someone like J Lo.

J Lo would squash you like a roach.

She is also a VERY high earner with kids in private school.

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Anonymous wrote:I hated it. The last thing I want my daughters to think is that what is 'empowering' for women is to dance half naked in sexual ways for the enjoyment of men. That has been happening for generation and generation in strip clubs. I don't particularly think it is all that empowering. It that is what others want for their daughters - great. Teach them to take their clothes off and pole dance and shake their bodies and simulate sex for men's enjoyment. We don't look to strip clubs as our model for female empowerment.

As someone said we don't teach boys to take off their clothes and use their bodies for women's enjoyment.

I dunno. I loved the show. My 8yo daughter watched it—she’s a gymnast who can shimmy to the top of a rope, so she had some idea how physically difficult it is to do what JLo did.

I truly think this thread reflects some WW pearl clutching at JLo’s performance. I think they are disturbed by a curvy non-white woman gyrating, tbh. I thought overall it was great. And great that my brown daughter 1st gen daughter could see this performance by Latinas as representative of the future America, a multicultural America.

I found the show racist. They put two women of color on stage and had them dance like strippers. Would they have white women dancing like that? Lady Gaga didn’t dance like that. The sad truth is that they had to wear less clothing and dance like that because they are minorities. And people are more accepting of it because they are minorities.

Sad but hilarious you think it’s a good thing your first grader watched two minorities disrespect themselves on national tv for white producers.

Way to strip them entirely of their agency and, to a certain extent, their cultures. Dancing like this is not exclusively done by strippers in other parts of the world. Your Puritan background is showing.

Jlo’s stripper moves were not a part of her culture. Get out of here.

[Anonymous]

I think the haters up there were expecting something like this. Here's Madonna at 54 singing and dancing at halftime.

The issue is that this isn't her aesthetic at all. She's so covered up - its not even Madonna anymore. Very family friendly though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am 46. I am astonished at their bodies! No way can I imagine looking that toned today. Mad props to both of them for being able to maintain their figures.

This is their job! Of course they are maintaining. Just like any other profession.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 46. I am astonished at their bodies! No way can I imagine looking that toned today. Mad props to both of them for being able to maintain their figures.

Same here, I'm 44 y/o and they look amazing, especially after kids. JLo's body is fabulous. She can't sing and Shakira's only good song is La Tortura and that's all A. Sanz, so I didn't have high expectations. Nothing compares to Prince's performance, which was live.

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Anonymous wrote:I hated it. The last thing I want my daughters to think is that what is 'empowering' for women is to dance half naked in sexual ways for the enjoyment of men. That has been happening for generation and generation in strip clubs. I don't particularly think it is all that empowering. It that is what others want for their daughters - great. Teach them to take their clothes off and pole dance and shake their bodies and simulate sex for men's enjoyment. We don't look to strip clubs as our model for female empowerment.

As someone said we don't teach boys to take off their clothes and use their bodies for women's enjoyment.

It’s past your bedtime.

I agree with pp 100%.
Women's empowerment, my ass.
This was objectification of women.

Completely. Total objectification of both women. Clearly they don’t have a lot of musical talent to offer if they have to sell their bodies like that. The show was pathetic and trashy. I think it’s so sad that women with millions of dollars think they should get up on a stage and act like that.

Umm... how do you think they made those millions of dollars Susan?

They have done plenty of other work, including MUSIC played on the radio, that doesn’t involve them stimulating sex at a football game.

JLo and Shakira are musical performers. They perform at concerts and tour where people pay to see them. That’s where they are getting the bulk of their money.

[Anonymous]

Shakira was perfect. J Lo not.