Mob attack on man entering DC Hilton last Sunday

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Odds are case of mistaken identity.

Nay, I saw teens beat up old people on bus before. No justification.

Every incident of assault is the same?

Can I beat the shit out of you because I misIDed you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Odds are case of mistaken identity.

Nay, I saw teens beat up old people on bus before. No justification.

Every incident of assault is the same?

Can I beat the shit out of you because I misIDed you?

That’d be one motivation for you to do so.
Another would be cause I told you that I <bleeped> your mother last night.
Another would be cause I told you that your mother’s <bleep> was almost as stank as your breath...almost.
I’m sure I can think of more but to sum things up that not all incidents of assault stem from the same provocation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Odds are case of mistaken identity.

Nay, I saw teens beat up old people on bus before. No justification.

Every incident of assault is the same?

Can I beat the shit out of you because I misIDed you?

That’d be one motivation for you to do so.
Another would be cause I told you that I <bleeped> your mother last night.
Another would be cause I told you that your mother’s <bleep> was almost as stank as your breath...almost.
I’m sure I can think of more but to sum things up that not all incidents of assault stem from the same provocation.

What is sufficient provocation, in your world, for this particular assault? I assume the juvenile insults above are not examples.

It’s all kinds of nutjobs and knuckleheads out here.
They’ll swing on somebody for a variety of reasons - none of which are appropriate or acceptable in my opinion - but there’s definitely a plethora of provocations that lead to these incidents not just one or two.
What’s up you need me to say it so you’ll stop misconstruing my remarks? Fine
I AIN’T CONDONING THIS ASSAULT I AIN’T MAKING EXCUSES FOR THE OFFENDERS I’M SIMPLY EXAMINING THE INCIDENT.
We cool now? Can I ponder in peace about what prompted the beatdown without being accused of approving it?

[Anonymous]

Why does it matter what prompted it? The victim doesn’t care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does it matter what prompted it? The victim doesn’t care.

So what you saying this is a discussion forum for only certain aspects that you deem discussion worthy?
Uh...is your name Jeff?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were planning a conference, I would think twice about holding it in DC.

Does that hotel even gave security?

On the news the security guard told the reporter the incident happened "in the street".

Clearly the hotel security is feckless. And liars.

If hotel security got involved in street fights they'd be sued for millions and the employee(s) would be immediately fired.

It's pretty obvious that you haven't seen the video, and are just talking out of your ass.

Because the video clearly shows the attack was within arms length of the front door of the hotel lobby, well inside their property line by at least 15 yards. The fact that the security guard interviewed by the reporter told him it "happened in the street", when the whole world (except you, apparently) can see that it happened at their lobby entrance, shows that the security personnel working for Hilton are bald-faced liars.

In addition to not being able to protect their guests.

I hope the victims get a settlement so big over this that Paris will have to sell another sex tape to pay for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were planning a conference, I would think twice about holding it in DC.

Does that hotel even gave security?

On the news the security guard told the reporter the incident happened "in the street".

Clearly the hotel security is feckless. And liars.

If hotel security got involved in street fights they'd be sued for millions and the employee(s) would be immediately fired.

It's pretty obvious that you haven't seen the video, and are just talking out of your ass.

Because the video clearly shows the attack was within arms length of the front door of the hotel lobby, well inside their property line by at least 15 yards. The fact that the security guard interviewed by the reporter told him it "happened in the street", when the whole world (except you, apparently) can see that it happened at their lobby entrance, shows that the security personnel working for Hilton are bald-faced liars.

In addition to not being able to protect their guests.

I hope the victims get a settlement so big over this that Paris will have to sell another sex tape to pay for it.

Oddly you seem more angry at Hilton rather than, you know, the thugs that did the assaulting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were planning a conference, I would think twice about holding it in DC.

Does that hotel even gave security?

On the news the security guard told the reporter the incident happened "in the street".

Clearly the hotel security is feckless. And liars.

If hotel security got involved in street fights they'd be sued for millions and the employee(s) would be immediately fired.

It's pretty obvious that you haven't seen the video, and are just talking out of your ass.

Because the video clearly shows the attack was within arms length of the front door of the hotel lobby, well inside their property line by at least 15 yards. The fact that the security guard interviewed by the reporter told him it "happened in the street", when the whole world (except you, apparently) can see that it happened at their lobby entrance, shows that the security personnel working for Hilton are bald-faced liars.

In addition to not being able to protect their guests.

I hope the victims get a settlement so big over this that Paris will have to sell another sex tape to pay for it.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One small consolation in this video is that you can see two kids who see what's happening and immediately back off.

There's a young black woman in a tennis dress who runs after the group as they follow the men and tries to intervene, protecting the victim from further violence. Hard to tell if she's part of the group or is simply just a good Samaritan. But she literally put her body on top of the victim to dissuade the rest of the group from continuing the attack.

I'm sure the police REALLY want to talk to her, as she likely will be able to identify the group and clear did not condone the violence.

No, she didn't. She took a cellphone photo of the victim on the ground. Because it was funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were planning a conference, I would think twice about holding it in DC.

Does that hotel even gave security?

On the news the security guard told the reporter the incident happened "in the street".

Clearly the hotel security is feckless. And liars.

If hotel security got involved in street fights they'd be sued for millions and the employee(s) would be immediately fired.

It's pretty obvious that you haven't seen the video, and are just talking out of your ass.

Because the video clearly shows the attack was within arms length of the front door of the hotel lobby, well inside their property line by at least 15 yards. The fact that the security guard interviewed by the reporter told him it "happened in the street", when the whole world (except you, apparently) can see that it happened at their lobby entrance, shows that the security personnel working for Hilton are bald-faced liars.

In addition to not being able to protect their guests.

I hope the victims get a settlement so big over this that Paris will have to sell another sex tape to pay for it.

Oddly you seem more angry at Hilton rather than, you know, the thugs that did the assaulting.

Well... that's interesting. You may be sorta right about that, actually.

Thing is, I can accept thugs thugging. I say "accept", not "condone", mind you. It's not ok what they did by any stretch. But that's what they do. I'm not surprised that a mob of teens attacked some random person, because, well because that happens.

But I'm pissed that a presumably four-star hotel 1) doesn't have a security presence outside their front lobby, and 2) has security staff that would straight-up lie to a reporter, on camera, when the reality of what happened was there for all to see.

I don't expect a violent mob to be honest or do the right thing.

I DO expect that out of the staff at what Hilton no doubt considers one of the premier hotels in the city.

So yeah, I guess it's fair to say I'm more mad at the hotel. Their guests deserve better than this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were planning a conference, I would think twice about holding it in DC.

Does that hotel even gave security?

On the news the security guard told the reporter the incident happened "in the street".

Clearly the hotel security is feckless. And liars.

If hotel security got involved in street fights they'd be sued for millions and the employee(s) would be immediately fired.

It's pretty obvious that you haven't seen the video, and are just talking out of your ass.

Because the video clearly shows the attack was within arms length of the front door of the hotel lobby, well inside their property line by at least 15 yards. The fact that the security guard interviewed by the reporter told him it "happened in the street", when the whole world (except you, apparently) can see that it happened at their lobby entrance, shows that the security personnel working for Hilton are bald-faced liars.

In addition to not being able to protect their guests.

I hope the victims get a settlement so big over this that Paris will have to sell another sex tape to pay for it.

Oddly you seem more angry at Hilton rather than, you know, the thugs that did the assaulting.

Well... that's interesting. You may be sorta right about that, actually.

Thing is, I can accept thugs thugging. I say "accept", not "condone", mind you. It's not ok what they did by any stretch. But that's what they do. I'm not surprised that a mob of teens attacked some random person, because, well because that happens.

But I'm pissed that a presumably four-star hotel 1) doesn't have a security presence outside their front lobby, and 2) has security staff that would straight-up lie to a reporter, on camera, when the reality of what happened was there for all to see.

I don't expect a violent mob to be honest or do the right thing.

I DO expect that out of the staff at what Hilton no doubt considers one of the premier hotels in the city.

So yeah, I guess it's fair to say I'm more mad at the hotel. Their guests deserve better than this.

I was in Atlanta recently and a homeless man intentionally knocked over a bunch of scooters on the public sidewalk in front of the hotel. The bell staff were on him like flies on poop. So, yeah, Hilton could’ve done a better job of providing better security.

[Anonymous]

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/opinions/youth-rehabilitation-in-dc-from-controversy-to-progress/2019/01/11/d2ea0be6-056a-11e9-b5df-5d3874f1ac36_story.html?outputType=amp

So when they reformed the DC Youth Rehabilitation Act they raised the qualifying age from 22 to 25. So now DC Youth have until 25 to cut up anonymously and have a clean record? I agree with the science behind that designation, but this act will only work with accompanying services. Where is the Mayor on the plan for that? Otherwise it's just a get out of jail free card.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One small consolation in this video is that you can see two kids who see what's happening and immediately back off.

There's a young black woman in a tennis dress who runs after the group as they follow the men and tries to intervene, protecting the victim from further violence. Hard to tell if she's part of the group or is simply just a good Samaritan. But she literally put her body on top of the victim to dissuade the rest of the group from continuing the attack.

I'm sure the police REALLY want to talk to her, as she likely will be able to identify the group and clear did not condone the violence.

No, she didn't. She took a cellphone photo of the victim on the ground. Because it was funny.

That is not what the video shows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One small consolation in this video is that you can see two kids who see what's happening and immediately back off.

There's a young black woman in a tennis dress who runs after the group as they follow the men and tries to intervene, protecting the victim from further violence. Hard to tell if she's part of the group or is simply just a good Samaritan. But she literally put her body on top of the victim to dissuade the rest of the group from continuing the attack.

I'm sure the police REALLY want to talk to her, as she likely will be able to identify the group and clear did not condone the violence.

No, she didn't. She took a cellphone photo of the victim on the ground. Because it was funny.

That is not what the video shows.

Who can explain what happened from the start? Time of day? Why all these people might have been there? That Hilton is tucked away and not exactly "hip"- what would bring a large party to its entrance?

[Anonymous]

I'm not going to watch the video because it would make me want to move from DC (my hometown) - but would like to know what happened.