Michigan over Cornell?

[Anonymous]

Do you mean “gray”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Literally every Cornell student could get into Michigan. Maybe 100 Michigan kids total got into Cornell and turned it down. Most Michigan alums and parents have never stepped foot in Ithaca but they're so obnoxious and deluded they'll tell you their boring flat backwater grey flyover town is the bee's knees. Ann Arbor and the state is so amazing vis a vis Ithaca and New York state... like 99% of wolverines b-line to DTW airport the very second they graduate. lol

Like Cornell graduates don't make a run for the exits from Ithaca upon graduation?

Really... What sort of sexual frustration leads to a nasty post like this on Thanksgiving?
Look, I don't have a dog in this fight, but really you would be much better off surfing for porn than making these obnoxious posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Literally every Cornell student could get into Michigan. Maybe 100 Michigan kids total got into Cornell and turned it down. Most Michigan alums and parents have never stepped foot in Ithaca but they're so obnoxious and deluded they'll tell you their boring flat backwater grey flyover town is the bee's knees. Ann Arbor and the state is so amazing vis a vis Ithaca and New York state... like 99% of wolverines b-line to DTW airport the very second they graduate. lol

Like Cornell graduates don't make a run for the exits from Ithaca upon graduation?

Really... What sort of sexual frustration leads to a nasty post like this on Thanksgiving?
Look, I don't have a dog in this fight, but really you would be much better off surfing for porn than making these obnoxious posts.

DP. Your illogical leap to sexual frustration says more about your inner voice than it does about the PP. And if you don’t have a dog in this fight then just run along.

Now I’ll go back to digesting my absurdly large thanksgiving dinner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Literally every Cornell student could get into Michigan. Maybe 100 Michigan kids total got into Cornell and turned it down. Most Michigan alums and parents have never stepped foot in Ithaca but they're so obnoxious and deluded they'll tell you their boring flat backwater grey flyover town is the bee's knees. Ann Arbor and the state is so amazing vis a vis Ithaca and New York state... like 99% of wolverines b-line to DTW airport the very second they graduate. lol

Like Cornell graduates don't make a run for the exits from Ithaca upon graduation?

Really... What sort of sexual frustration leads to a nasty post like this on Thanksgiving?
Look, I don't have a dog in this fight, but really you would be much better off surfing for porn than making these obnoxious posts.

DP. Your illogical leap to sexual frustration says more about your inner voice than it does about the PP. And if you don’t have a dog in this fight then just run along.

Now I’ll go back to digesting my absurdly large thanksgiving dinner.

+1

Sounds like PP is projecting.

[Anonymous]

If the finances aren’t there for Cornell, all I have to say is no school - not even Harvard, MIT, Yale - is worth $100,000 in loans.

[Anonymous]

This is a very pathetic thread.

I also know both towns well. I think Ann Arbor is more folksy (in a good way). It is also warmer. More of a football town (like the games are piped into the Kroger's!). I could care less about sports, but the atmosphere made for festive fall weekends. Both have plenty of good restaurants. Cornell might be more intense (in an unhappy way).

To each his / her own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a very pathetic thread.

I also know both towns well. I think Ann Arbor is more folksy (in a good way). It is also warmer. More of a football town (like the games are piped into the Kroger's!). I could care less about sports, but the atmosphere made for festive fall weekends. Both have plenty of good restaurants. Cornell might be more intense (in an unhappy way).

To each his / her own.

"This is a very pathetic thread - let me add my contribution, though"

[Anonymous]

They are both great schools, and I think the "OMGIvy Cornell over Michigan no question!!!" people have very little understanding of how the real world/hiring works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the finances aren’t there for Cornell, all I have to say is no school - not even Harvard, MIT, Yale - is worth $100,000 in loans.

Please stop with these asinine hyperbolic posts. Please cite a source for how many undergraduates at Cornell or any of the schools list have $100,000 in loans. You can't. Only 30% of Cornell grads even took out loans, the median debt less than $20,000 total. This is US Gov Scorecard data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are both great schools, and I think the "OMGIvy Cornell over Michigan no question!!!" people have very little understanding of how the real world/hiring works.

Plus 1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cornell: The easiest Ivy to get in and the hardest to graduate.

The classes are tough and the competition even more tough. It is not like Harvard, Brown, or MIT - easier grading and more collaborative.

My daughter has two friends at Cornell. One is a 2021 Class and is pretty happy. She is in a pretty easy major, was pretty lucky to get in, and has been grateful and enjoying being able to be there. Hates the weather, not a fan of Ithica, but not regrets.

She also has a friend that is 2022 and is very smart and worked her butt off to get there. She has had a very tough year. She was also accepted to Rice and has very much regretted not going. She is anxious, stressed, depressed, and thinks it is tougher than most other kids at other schools taking the same courses.

She also has a friend 2022 at Michigan. She worked her butt off to get there. She is still working hard, but she is enjoying every aspect of the school. Sports, clubs, parties, sorority, etc... She is extremely happy there.

Michigan will have more various types of kids. It is a better college town. And overall kids seem happier there. If Cornell is a dream or a school she was crazy excited about getting in, then she will probably do okay. My gut is telling me she would regret not going to Michigan though if she really loved it there.

If you and her switched which one was "ivy" my guess is she would be 100% in Michigan.

Which one is she going to WANT to do everything at that school. Which one will make her happy for 4 years. Which one feels like home?

Cornell may have the Ivy name, but you can not beat Michigan alumni when looking for employment.

Good Luck. What a lucky decision she has to make!

The Michigan degree will help her with employment for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You must be crazy. Michigan is not even close. OMG!

Evidence please?

Ivy cachet vs dime a dozen 50,000 public U alum

State colleges graduates are very desirable to many, many employers.

Employers are not looking for "cachet."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cornell alum here. I loved Cornell, but if my kid got into both and she wanted to go to U Michigan over Cornell, I'd sign the deposit check in a heartbeat -- and vice versa. Both are great schools with tons of opportunities to study in a wide variety of fields. (I would also say that there is something for everyone at Cornell as well).

At the end of her four years, it's not going to be so much what brand name is on the diploma but a) is she happy and thriving there (and therefore doing her best work) and b) does she do well in her chosen classes and major so she's poised for the next step, whatever that ends up being.

I've done a lot of hiring in my career and I wouldn't discount the cachet of University of Michigan -- I wouldn't necessarily be more interested in a Cornell grad (or a HYPS grad for that matter) over a University of Michigan (and dozens of other strong schools). I don't think the brand name matters nearly as much as people think it does.

I've hired for decades and agree with this. The students from the State schools bring a lot to the table.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She’ll have more fun at Michigan and it has a good national rep.

I’d go there.

Plus 1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cornell alum here. I loved Cornell, but if my kid got into both and she wanted to go to U Michigan over Cornell, I'd sign the deposit check in a heartbeat -- and vice versa. Both are great schools with tons of opportunities to study in a wide variety of fields. (I would also say that there is something for everyone at Cornell as well).

At the end of her four years, it's not going to be so much what brand name is on the diploma but a) is she happy and thriving there (and therefore doing her best work) and b) does she do well in her chosen classes and major so she's poised for the next step, whatever that ends up being.

I've done a lot of hiring in my career and I wouldn't discount the cachet of University of Michigan -- I wouldn't necessarily be more interested in a Cornell grad (or a HYPS grad for that matter) over a University of Michigan (and dozens of other strong schools). I don't think the brand name matters nearly as much as people think it does.

Thank you.

DH does hiring for tech companies and said Michigan grads are way better on average than, say, Harvard grads who tend to be entitled brats.

well then its settled Michigan's grads are great and Harvard grads are brats!! So nice of you to tell us that your husband thinks a school that was not even on this thread produces brats...does that mean Cornell does too?

I've hired for decades and agree with this.