BOE Memer is proposing to study school boundary in MCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Upper middle class here, sold in Bethesda this fall and moved to another county. Montgomery county is now dirty and poorly managed. I mean I can’t believe the electorate voted for term limits and then voted to put a term limited candidate in a higher office. He was part of that ten percent property tax increase. How stupid! I made quite the profit on my close in sh t shack, but the new owners were too millineal stupid to even educate themselves about the curriculum issue. As were the new neighbors who purchased across the street. No worries, the new purchasers are as stupid as existing voters and will gleefully pay increasing taxes, they won’t and can’t go anywhere. They are officially house poor so you’ll benefit from theirs and others stupidity. Mont county is a social experiment gone awry. Truly sad to see.

It's spelled millennial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
If lots of rich families in Bethesda made the nutty decision to pick up and move from expensive housing in MCPS (which is not perfect) to expensive housing in FCPS (which is not perfect) -- then the housing in close-in Bethesda would become more affordable to the rest of us. Yay!

And then the county would raise your taxes or cut schools funding because revenue has gone down.

Elrich has already proposed $25mil cut to MCPS, and no, Elrich can't tell MCPS to make those cuts to central office.

-dp

With fewer whiney privileged kids the mcps budget would be more than adequate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Wow, you really don't understand where the county's tax money comes from? You really don't understand how county schools and programs get paid for? If the upper middle and rich flee, you might get a house in Bethsda but it will not be the Bethesda you so covet. Remember when Wheaton used to be nice? Less expensive houses won't produce the same taxes. Taxes will go up to make up the shortfall. It will be county wide crap for everyone left behind.

The W kids will be gone too. It's the kids from educated upper middle families that keep the scores high and the schools safe. W schools aren't special or different in any other way than the kids within the walls. It's the same crappy Montco failing curriculum every other local public school has.

Class envy is a insidious. You take those tax payers for granted and you will shoot yourself in the foot.

Sure it will. I don't want to live in close-in Bethesda because it's full of people with lots of money. I want to live in close-in Bethesda because it's close-in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Upper middle class here, sold in Bethesda this fall and moved to another county. Montgomery county is now dirty and poorly managed. I mean I can’t believe the electorate voted for term limits and then voted to put a term limited candidate in a higher office. He was part of that ten percent property tax increase. How stupid! I made quite the profit on my close in sh t shack, but the new owners were too millineal stupid to even educate themselves about the curriculum issue. As were the new neighbors who purchased across the street. No worries, the new purchasers are as stupid as existing voters and will gleefully pay increasing taxes, they won’t and can’t go anywhere. They are officially house poor so you’ll benefit from theirs and others stupidity. Mont county is a social experiment gone awry. Truly sad to see.

It sounds like Montgomery County wasn't a good fit for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Wow, you really don't understand where the county's tax money comes from? You really don't understand how county schools and programs get paid for? If the upper middle and rich flee, you might get a house in Bethsda but it will not be the Bethesda you so covet. Remember when Wheaton used to be nice? Less expensive houses won't produce the same taxes. Taxes will go up to make up the shortfall. It will be county wide crap for everyone left behind.

The W kids will be gone too. It's the kids from educated upper middle families that keep the scores high and the schools safe. W schools aren't special or different in any other way than the kids within the walls. It's the same crappy Montco failing curriculum every other local public school has.

Class envy is a insidious. You take those tax payers for granted and you will shoot yourself in the foot.

Sure it will. I don't want to live in close-in Bethesda because it's full of people with lots of money. I want to live in close-in Bethesda because it's close-in.

You know what's even closer in? DC. Why not live there? You know why...No one wants to live there because the schools are disgrace. That's how how everyone ended up in Bethesda...for the public schools. The DC upper middle class are all in private to avoid the high schools. Expect Bethesda to look more like DC/Wheaton while people leave Montco for Virginia, for better schools, for tech jobs like Amazon. The writing is on the wall, Montco is becoming a hell hole.

[Anonymous]

#FirstWorldProblems

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Supply and demand. Market forces. Less demand = lower prices = lower property taxes.

How many rich people do you think there are who are going to move to Fairfax (?) or Howard (?) if MCPS proposes to fiddle with the boundaries of Whitman a bit?

If there really were enough rich people moving out of $1.5 million houses in the western close-in suburbs to Ellicott City or Leesburg or some such (though why would they do that?), there would be lots of people happy to move in. The quality of life in Montgomery County would improve.

That's a complete straw man. Who says that they are going to move to Fairfax or Howard? They would likely move to McLean, Arlington, or AU Park.

If you are zoned for Whitman, you could move 10-15 minutes away and be in either close-in VA or in DC. Someone's commute will be at worst the same and may actually be better. If someone is in private school anyway, their kids wouldn't even have to change schools. Why wouldn't a lot of people do that if the tax disparity becomes too great?

And it is not just people who would move from Bethesda to VA/DC, it is also people who would never come to Bethesda in the first instance. If more people choose VA/DC, property values (and therefore property taxes) will decrease and you won't have the benefit of income tax from those people easier.

Without this revenue, it is hard to see how the quality of life in MoCo would improve because we wouldn't have the funds to pay for parks, schools, immigrant support, etc.

[Anonymous]

Um, nobody’s going to move to DC for lower taxes. When we first moved to this area a law firm partner told my husband he thought it should be malpractice for a firm lawyer to live in DC due to the tax burden. VA taxes are lower, but McLean is not that close in. VA close in school systems are dealing with all the same things MoCo is. I don’t know why people who already send their kids to private school live in MD instead of Virginia, but if they were deciding based on taxes, they wouldn’t live here already. Some people actually like living in Maryland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You know what's even closer in? DC. Why not live there? You know why...No one wants to live there because the schools are disgrace. That's how how everyone ended up in Bethesda...for the public schools. The DC upper middle class are all in private to avoid the high schools. Expect Bethesda to look more like DC/Wheaton while people leave Montco for Virginia, for better schools, for tech jobs like Amazon. The writing is on the wall, Montco is becoming a hell hole.

Almost 700,000 people live there.

Also, have you been to Wheaton lately?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Supply and demand. Market forces. Less demand = lower prices = lower property taxes.

How many rich people do you think there are who are going to move to Fairfax (?) or Howard (?) if MCPS proposes to fiddle with the boundaries of Whitman a bit?

If there really were enough rich people moving out of $1.5 million houses in the western close-in suburbs to Ellicott City or Leesburg or some such (though why would they do that?), there would be lots of people happy to move in. The quality of life in Montgomery County would improve.

I really don't know how many people would move, and neither do you. And I don't think these folks who work in DC would move to Ellicott City.

I do know that if you keep squeezing, more and more will eventually move out. I don't really know what that threshold is, but I can tell you that living in Rockville, I'm getting tired of getting squeezed with high taxes, over crowded schools, and cuts to school funding, and I'm seriously thinking of moving. Plus, most of the jobs in our industry are in NoVa.

Up thread you or someone stated that it would be great if all those wealthy folks moved. My point is that if this were to happen, you would see revenue for the county go down, and therefore so would MCPS budget.

[Anonymous]

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I really don't know how many people would move, and neither do you. And I don't think these folks who work in DC would move to Ellicott City.

I do know that if you keep squeezing, more and more will eventually move out. I don't really know what that threshold is, but I can tell you that living in Rockville, I'm getting tired of getting squeezed with high taxes, over crowded schools, and cuts to school funding, and I'm seriously thinking of moving. Plus, most of the jobs in our industry are in NoVa.

Up thread you or someone stated that it would be great if all those wealthy folks moved. My point is that if this were to happen, you would see revenue for the county go down, and therefore so would MCPS budget.

The population of Montgomery County is increasing. School enrollment is increasing too. As far as I know, every school in Bethesda is over capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
If lots of rich families in Bethesda made the nutty decision to pick up and move from expensive housing in MCPS (which is not perfect) to expensive housing in FCPS (which is not perfect) -- then the housing in close-in Bethesda would become more affordable to the rest of us. Yay!

And then the county would raise your taxes or cut schools funding because revenue has gone down.

Elrich has already proposed $25mil cut to MCPS, and no, Elrich can't tell MCPS to make those cuts to central office.

-dp

With fewer whiney privileged kids the mcps budget would be more than adequate.

Really? I seriously doubt it's only the whiney privileged kids who are getting more resources than the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I really don't know how many people would move, and neither do you. And I don't think these folks who work in DC would move to Ellicott City.

I do know that if you keep squeezing, more and more will eventually move out. I don't really know what that threshold is, but I can tell you that living in Rockville, I'm getting tired of getting squeezed with high taxes, over crowded schools, and cuts to school funding, and I'm seriously thinking of moving. Plus, most of the jobs in our industry are in NoVa.

Up thread you or someone stated that it would be great if all those wealthy folks moved. My point is that if this were to happen, you would see revenue for the county go down, and therefore so would MCPS budget.

The population of Montgomery County is increasing. School enrollment is increasing too. As far as I know, every school in Bethesda is over capacity.

Yes, because what a PP stated should happens o they all move out hasn't happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I really don't know how many people would move, and neither do you. And I don't think these folks who work in DC would move to Ellicott City.

I do know that if you keep squeezing, more and more will eventually move out. I don't really know what that threshold is, but I can tell you that living in Rockville, I'm getting tired of getting squeezed with high taxes, over crowded schools, and cuts to school funding, and I'm seriously thinking of moving. Plus, most of the jobs in our industry are in NoVa.

Up thread you or someone stated that it would be great if all those wealthy folks moved. My point is that if this were to happen, you would see revenue for the county go down, and therefore so would MCPS budget.

The population of Montgomery County is increasing. School enrollment is increasing too. As far as I know, every school in Bethesda is over capacity.

.. mostly in the non expensive areas. Bethesda schools are not *as* overcrowded as other areas that are less expensive. But imagine how more overcrowded Bethesda schools would be if those folks in Bethesda who send their kids to private schools decided to send them to public schools instead.

[Anonymous]

I am laughing out loud at these threats from rich people that they’re going to storm out of the county. A majority of us would actually benefit from that. They are opportunity hoarders who have been jealously guarding all the prime locations, schools, jobs. The middle and upper middle class would really be happy to take your places.