residency fraud? (!)

[Anonymous]

Get a life.

The parents could be divorced.The kid could spend afternoons with a relative in PG County.The kid could stay with relatives in PG County at times.

If you want to report the family via the tips hotline, fine, but following a kid home is sick. Without knowing what's going on with the PG car rides, the stalker parent posting clearly needs help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the person following someone home- this is stalking and its against the law.

I have now followed cars back to their homes after pickup twice. Both times PG county.... BOTH TIMES. I took video of one of the cars pulling into their driveway and reported them.

So far nothing has happened and I'm thinking of confronting the parent. I don't want to make a scene at Janney, but that school is too crowded in my opinion.

Troll. But in case you aren’t, how were you able to verify that this was the child’s home and not that of a caregiver or grandparent or aunt?

[Anonymous]

Not the PP you're addressing but I'd like to point out that "verification" is simply not a public school parent's job.

If you come here to deride "cheaters," rather than simply reporting them if you must, you might want to ask yourself why you're so motivated to meddle in others' lives. Unhappy?!

[Anonymous]

Agree that vigilante parent is over the top.

Do you agree the cheaters are wrong?

[Anonymous]

Not my call. I don't like to judge and don't think a parent should play armchair residency fraud investigator, even if blatant cheating appears to be involved. Would much rather see political pressure applied in a push for holistic solutions.

Where boundary cheating goes, from what I've observed, parents who bitch about cheaters ownign multiple residential properties invariably have personal reasons to go at fellow parents. The complainers claim they don't, but obviously do.
Glad to know that personal vendetta oriented parents snitching on DC taxpayers are generally ignored by city officials.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the person following someone home- this is stalking and its against the law.

I have now followed cars back to their homes after pickup twice. Both times PG county.... BOTH TIMES. I took video of one of the cars pulling into their driveway and reported them.

So far nothing has happened and I'm thinking of confronting the parent. I don't want to make a scene at Janney, but that school is too crowded in my opinion.

Please confront them. I doubt you’re that brave. I hope they slap the mess out of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the person following someone home- this is stalking and its against the law.

I have now followed cars back to their homes after pickup twice. Both times PG county.... BOTH TIMES. I took video of one of the cars pulling into their driveway and reported them.

So far nothing has happened and I'm thinking of confronting the parent. I don't want to make a scene at Janney, but that school is too crowded in my opinion.

Please confront them. I doubt you’re that brave. I hope they slap the mess out of you.

I think that was a troll trying to rile people up. I'm skeptical that multiple families are driving all the way from PG to Janney.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not my call. I don't like to judge and don't think a parent should play armchair residency fraud investigator, even if blatant cheating appears to be involved. Would much rather see political pressure applied in a push for holistic solutions.

Where boundary cheating goes, from what I've observed, parents who bitch about cheaters ownign multiple residential properties invariably have personal reasons to go at fellow parents. The complainers claim they don't, but obviously do.
Glad to know that personal vendetta oriented parents snitching on DC taxpayers are generally ignored by city officials.

So you can’t judge if cheating is wrong? All cheating? What if your spouse cheated on you? What if your child cheated on a test? What about cheating on your taxes?

Beyond the residency fraud issue, it is fascinating that some people don’t seem to have a moral compass of their own. Where do you draw the line?

[Anonymous]

What's the point of the question? DC residency fraud is clearly a black and white issue?

I'm not convinced. I've seen OSSE play with the language on school residency in poorly written rules multiple times in recent years, needlessly creating gray areas. I've seen domestic situations of close DC friends become complicated where residency goes, with one or both parents moving houses temporarily, parents separating and reuniting, and extended family becoming heavily involved in childcare on and off.

I like a live and let live approach where others act their own consciences, and take their own calculated risks. From where I sit, if a person pays DC taxes at a certain property every year their children attend DC public schools, good enough for residency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not my call. I don't like to judge and don't think a parent should play armchair residency fraud investigator, even if blatant cheating appears to be involved. Would much rather see political pressure applied in a push for holistic solutions.

Where boundary cheating goes, from what I've observed, parents who bitch about cheaters ownign multiple residential properties invariably have personal reasons to go at fellow parents. The complainers claim they don't, but obviously do.
Glad to know that personal vendetta oriented parents snitching on DC taxpayers are generally ignored by city officials.

So you can’t judge if cheating is wrong? All cheating? What if your spouse cheated on you? What if your child cheated on a test? What about cheating on your taxes?

Beyond the residency fraud issue, it is fascinating that some people don’t seem to have a moral compass of their own. Where do you draw the line?

I draw the line at your sanctimonious BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the point of the question? DC residency fraud is clearly a black and white issue?

I'm not convinced. I've seen OSSE play with the language on school residency in poorly written rules multiple times in recent years, needlessly creating gray areas. I've seen domestic situations of close DC friends become complicated where residency goes, with one or both parents moving houses temporarily, parents separating and reuniting, and extended family becoming heavily involved in childcare on and off.

I like a live and let live approach where others act their own consciences, and take their own calculated risks. From where I sit, if a person pays DC taxes at a certain property every year their children attend DC public schools, good enough for residency.

Personally, my line is drawn at income taxes. If you pay income taxes to DC, your kid can attend the school. Anyone paying income tax to MD or VA should NOT have a kid in the school. The parent claiming the kid needs to be a DC income tax payer/filer. It's the only fair way to manage this situation. If grandma in NE DC is handling the kid, then grandma should be claiming the child tax credit on her taxes.

It's very easy to link all of this, but OSSE isn't forcing it. This is such a simple and effective benchmark for proving residency.

[Anonymous]

I think that parents should have to prove that they rent or own in-boundary to enroll in a by-right school in a system supporting them, at least in schools that are over capacity.

I could care less when family members sleep. I'll leave it to the preachy bloodhound on this thread to worry about that one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not my call. I don't like to judge and don't think a parent should play armchair residency fraud investigator, even if blatant cheating appears to be involved. Would much rather see political pressure applied in a push for holistic solutions.

Where boundary cheating goes, from what I've observed, parents who bitch about cheaters ownign multiple residential properties invariably have personal reasons to go at fellow parents. The complainers claim they don't, but obviously do.
Glad to know that personal vendetta oriented parents snitching on DC taxpayers are generally ignored by city officials.

So you can’t judge if cheating is wrong? All cheating? What if your spouse cheated on you? What if your child cheated on a test? What about cheating on your taxes?

Beyond the residency fraud issue, it is fascinating that some people don’t seem to have a moral compass of their own. Where do you draw the line?

I draw the line at your sanctimonious BS.

So you have no line. You join the current Administration!

[Anonymous]

OK, I've touched a holier than thou nerve.

You belong at a private, hon, a space where you pay tuition with a shot at motivating admins and teachers to toe your moral line (if not fellow parents).

Come on, what really eats you up about the boundary cheaters at your school? Sounds like you have a hidden agenda, likely jealousy, or guilt that these parents take time to sit on tedious parent committees and you don't.

[Anonymous]

The PP w/a beef with morally bankrupt parents and the Bowser Administration would have appreciated the tony NYC suburb where we lived before DC.

That school district...

*required twice as many residency docs to register as DC does
*enrolled a FARMs % in the single digits system wide
*employed a private detective vendor to hunt down and bust address cheaters; the company used mobile surveillance vans to film parents coming and going from homes
*routinely dragged parents who used the schools, but couldn't prove that they paid property or rental taxes in the jurisdiction to court to get liens put on their property

If you want to live in a neighborhood zoned for a school system that's hardcore about cracking down on residency cheaters, go for it. Apparently, the country isn't short on them in 2018.