residency fraud? (!)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Total BS. Where is the long line of cars with Maryland plates pulling up at Brent, Maury, SWS, Logan Montessori or even Ludlow? That, my friend, is fiction in 2018.

The residency cheaters I know of on Capitol Hill live in DC, but not in bounds for the school they attend through residency fraud.

If you're certain that these "residency fraud" perps don't own or rent an in-boundary property, and didn't lottery in from OOB, why not report them to OSSE instead of bitching here?

Sorry to say, your definition of in-bounds is unlikely to correspond to OSSE's. From what I can tell, DC really only cares if parents file DC income tax returns from an in-boundary address, pick up school-related correspondence there, and get their kids to school on time consistently. No objections to the arrangement (and I live across the street from the IB school where we enroll our kids).

No one is talking about people who got in OOB. We're talking about using a fake address to get IB status. It's cheating.

So what are you gonna do about it? Besides be mad, report it, follow people home, then still be mad because they’re still gonna be at the school? What is the point of all this? Can someone please explain this to me? You are all wasting time worrying about all this and complaining about this subject, when your efforts are going to be lost.

+100. Somebody needs a life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So are most of those cheaters low income but want to attend “better” schools?

Not in my experience. I know 2 families who live in Maryland and another 3 families who live in DC but use rental properties or family’s properties to get in-bounds for our desirable school. They all are very well off.

So report these families to the tips line if you haven't already done so, and leave it at that.

You don't make or enforce the rules on school residency. If the OSSE isn't on board with your strict sounding definition of residency fraud, what you can you do but lobby them to tight up their rules and/or lose sleep over something you almost certainly can't change?

Sounds like a big waste of time.

I have reported them. Nothing is done. I’m not losing sleep. And I’m well aware of what the residency requirements are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So are most of those cheaters low income but want to attend “better” schools?

Not in my experience. I know 2 families who live in Maryland and another 3 families who live in DC but use rental properties or family’s properties to get in-bounds for our desirable school. They all are very well off.

So report these families to the tips line if you haven't already done so, and leave it at that.

You don't make or enforce the rules on school residency. If the OSSE isn't on board with your strict sounding definition of residency fraud, what you can you do but lobby them to tight up their rules and/or lose sleep over something you almost certainly can't change?

Sounds like a big waste of time.

I have reported them. Nothing is done. I’m not losing sleep. And I’m well aware of what the residency requirements are.

Idiot

[Anonymous]

I am hoping candidates for the Education board will address this issue while campaigning.

I do make it my business to report families I suspect of residency cheating. Reported one family who no longer attends school, though I don't think it has anything to with reporting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So are most of those cheaters low income but want to attend “better” schools?

Not in my experience. I know 2 families who live in Maryland and another 3 families who live in DC but use rental properties or family’s properties to get in-bounds for our desirable school. They all are very well off.

So report these families to the tips line if you haven't already done so, and leave it at that.

You don't make or enforce the rules on school residency. If the OSSE isn't on board with your strict sounding definition of residency fraud, what you can you do but lobby them to tight up their rules and/or lose sleep over something you almost certainly can't change?

Sounds like a big waste of time.

I have reported them. Nothing is done. I’m not losing sleep. And I’m well aware of what the residency requirements are.

Yet ya can't resist coming here with your holier than thou bitching. The miserable busybodies at our small NW DCPS who obsess about various alleged residency cheaters are to be avoided. Fortunately, they're kids will move on to toher schools soon enough. They're not parent leaders but bitch about "cheaters" who are. Pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like Ross. Yup, that's about the size of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So true. I know a MD family who kids attend an immersion charter with a huge waiting list. Totally taking a spot from a DC kid and money from DC taxpayers. Shouldn't be allowed.

But how do you know they live in MD? Because of their plates? That doesn’t mean they live in MD. Lots of people with MD plates live in DC. And I know some of you dummies are gonna say “Well then they should get DC plates.”

Bottom line, none of you can do ANYTHING about any of this. Therefore mind your dam business

Clearly someone is doing something about it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/as-dc-probes-school-enrollment-fraud-more-paybacks-could-be-coming/2018/03/01/7e6710b4-1cef-11e8-9de1-147dd2df3829_story.html


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/school-residency-fraud-lawsuits-seek-more-than-800000-from-dc-government-workers/2018/05/09/f1a984b6-53aa-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So true. I know a MD family who kids attend an immersion charter with a huge waiting list. Totally taking a spot from a DC kid and money from DC taxpayers. Shouldn't be allowed.

But how do you know they live in MD? Because of their plates? That doesn’t mean they live in MD. Lots of people with MD plates live in DC. And I know some of you dummies are gonna say “Well then they should get DC plates.”

Bottom line, none of you can do ANYTHING about any of this. Therefore mind your dam business

Clearly someone is doing something about it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/as-dc-probes-school-enrollment-fraud-more-paybacks-could-be-coming/2018/03/01/7e6710b4-1cef-11e8-9de1-147dd2df3829_story.html


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/school-residency-fraud-lawsuits-seek-more-than-800000-from-dc-government-workers/2018/05/09/f1a984b6-53aa-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html

Oh please. You stitching is going to do nothing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:So are most of those cheaters low income but want to attend “better” schools?

Not in my experience. I know 2 families who live in Maryland and another 3 families who live in DC but use rental properties or family’s properties to get in-bounds for our desirable school. They all are very well off.

So report these families to the tips line if you haven't already done so, and leave it at that.

You don't make or enforce the rules on school residency. If the OSSE isn't on board with your strict sounding definition of residency fraud, what you can you do but lobby them to tight up their rules and/or lose sleep over something you almost certainly can't change?

Sounds like a big waste of time.

I have reported them. Nothing is done. I’m not losing sleep. And I’m well aware of what the residency requirements are.

Right, but how do you know that nothing's been done? How do you know that residency fraud investigations were or weren't conducted in particular cases, and if they were done, what was in the reports?

If you have such little faith in a school system, why don't you withdraw your own children, or run for the school board to shake things up? Sooooo much easier to come and complain here.

[Anonymous]

Why do some people thinking cheating is OK?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone so worried about MD plates at drop off and pick up get a life and a hobby. As much as you bitch and moan nothing is going to be done about it. You can get as mad as you want but you have no control over the situation. You’re just gonna huff and puff and stay mad. You are all looking silly...following people home and stuff. You can’t do anything but be mad and report it. And then stay mad because whoever you report is gonna continue to be right at the school. Pointless energy

+100
Let them huff and puff, like anything is going to change.
They should thank those MD students for keeping DC schools afloat.

Not so fast. First of all, MD fraudsters take spots in sought-after schools like Ellington, Wilson, Deal, Hardy, some WOTP elementaries and highly-ranked charters. These would otherwise go to DC students who can't get in. Second, to the extent that fraudsters are keeping some failing DC schools afloat, how is that a good thing? It's diverting scarce tax dollars to inefficient uses, instead of being put to use providing educational support, tutoring, speciality teachers, science labs to students who actually live in the District.

There are no such things as sought-after schools or highly ranked schools in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do some people thinking cheating is OK?

I don't think cheating is OK, or that I'm in a position to judge who's cheating and who isn't.

OSSE is in charge of investigating residency fraud in this particular school district. I believe in outraged citizens calling the residency fraud tips line if they see fit. I also believe in letting OSSE do their job. If citizens don't like how OSSE does its job, they can let their elected representatives know.

I'm not OK with busybody moms playing CSI.

[Anonymous]

+1. Vigilante parents are worse than cheaters who pay all their DC taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my kid just started prek3 and this morning, when i was dropping my child off, i was directly behind someone else dropping off their child who had maryland plates. and i was like: oh! it's happening! residency fraud! do i report them? how do i report them? maybe there's an innocent explanation? what if it's nothing? suddenly it was all not so theoretical.

First stop to report residency fraud

https://www.uscis.gov/report-fraud

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the person following someone home- this is stalking and its against the law.

I have now followed cars back to their homes after pickup twice. Both times PG county.... BOTH TIMES. I took video of one of the cars pulling into their driveway and reported them.

So far nothing has happened and I'm thinking of confronting the parent. I don't want to make a scene at Janney, but that school is too crowded in my opinion.