What's going on with FCBEscola NOVA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think parents need to realize that things like FCB are developmental tools designed to build a child's natural talent, but it can't create talent.

This escuela is a great tool for your child. It is not however a conversion machine that will turn your child into the next Messi.

Duh, Isn't that true for any club or training?

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RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The U13 Bakero team won their bracket. The U11 Guardiola team came 1st in their group and got eliminated in the knockouts by Rockville, who creamed everybody else in that bracket. You are reaching... I sense jealousy?

Seems like a stretch to judge a club by results from a tournament in which most clubs weren't sending their A- and B-teams ... for better or for worse.

Seems a stretch to judge any club by any tournament results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think parents need to realize that things like FCB are developmental tools designed to build a child's natural talent, but it can't create talent.

This escuela is a great tool for your child. It is not however a conversion machine that will turn your child into the next Messi.

Duh, Isn't that true for any club or training?

Except because it is affiliated with FCB, some people may be unfair expect more from them than any program can put forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The U13 Bakero team won their bracket. The U11 Guardiola team came 1st in their group and got eliminated in the knockouts by Rockville, who creamed everybody else in that bracket. You are reaching... I sense jealousy?

U13 Bakero didn't win their bracket, Rockville Soccer Club did.

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Anonymous wrote:They had 2 teams in the older age groups. The U15 Deco team which is ranked 144th in state (understandably finished last). Also the U17 Ibrahimovic team which is the B team in that age group for FCB, and they came in 2nd place to a U18 team. Come on now...

They also had some younger age group teams. I saw at least 2007 and 2005 as well.

Look at comment above yours. 05s are Bakero and 07s are Guardiola

As somebody said earlier in this thread, there are also more than one team per age group (just like travel). Different teams/different names, but same age group playing in different tournaments. It's a big place. Different 05/07 teams were in Potomac Memorial.

They spread the teams out amongst many different tournaments.

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RantingSoccerDad wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The U13 Bakero team won their bracket. The U11 Guardiola team came 1st in their group and got eliminated in the knockouts by Rockville, who creamed everybody else in that bracket. You are reaching... I sense jealousy?

Seems like a stretch to judge a club by results from a tournament in which most clubs weren't sending their A- and B-teams ... for better or for worse.

Seems a stretch to judge any club by any tournament results.

Unless they're a bit extreme, or unless there's a pattern, sure.

We could ask, though, why they're entering the lower brackets of all these tournaments. That's turning into a pattern. But they do have some good older teams.

Because they are soccer games? What other tournaments were going on last weekend? Why not play in a nearby tournament at a great facility? You of all people complain about the traveling great distances so why would you complain about a club entering a team in a local tournament at a great facility? What was the other choice in June sand soccer?

[Anonymous]

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RantingSoccerDad wrote:

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RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The U13 Bakero team won their bracket. The U11 Guardiola team came 1st in their group and got eliminated in the knockouts by Rockville, who creamed everybody else in that bracket. You are reaching... I sense jealousy?

Seems like a stretch to judge a club by results from a tournament in which most clubs weren't sending their A- and B-teams ... for better or for worse.

Seems a stretch to judge any club by any tournament results.

Unless they're a bit extreme, or unless there's a pattern, sure.

We could ask, though, why they're entering the lower brackets of all these tournaments. That's turning into a pattern. But they do have some good older teams.

Because they are soccer games? What other tournaments were going on last weekend? Why not play in a nearby tournament at a great facility? You of all people complain about the traveling great distances so why would you complain about a club entering a team in a local tournament at a great facility? What was the other choice in June sand soccer?

If they would have blown the top teams of the top brackets out of the water, then maybe they should have picked a better tournament (maybe not this weekend, but they could have picked one of the memorial day tournaments or one of many other tournaments during the spring, many travel teams are done for the season by this point), but turns out to be not a bad pick since they couldn't win bottom brackets of this tournament against some rec teams.

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Anonymous wrote:not great results in a rec tournament in maryland this weekend for barcelona

Oh no!! Those kids are now dooomed!!!

if they want rec clubs results and want to play rec club teams the players might as well go save thousands of dollars and play at a local rec club

If a rec club team is going to boot the ball and play kick and run with somewhat athletic kids, that kind of approach can be tough to beat especially at younger age groups. That doesn't mean that kids who learn to play a better style of soccer--including at FCBEscola--aren't going to be more successful down the road if they stick with it. They are also probably having a lot more fun learning to play the way that they are, as opposed to the kids who are playing kickball.

Also, if you're referring to the tournament at Soccerplex this past weekend, I'm not sure I would call that a "rec tournament" but anyway...yes there were some re club teams in it, and also some decent travel teams depending on the age group.

Decent travel teams shouldn't have a problem beating a rec team playing kickball.

I'm sure not many are happy about the performance during the tournament. Most teams were in the bottom bracket, maybe a couple in the second lowest, so playing against some rec teams. Mixed performances in those low brackets, but not a single FCBEscola team were champions.

I'm pretty sure most of the parents are happy because they saw their teams adhere to a style they are being trained to play. But thanks for your watchdog concern.

Thank you.

“Y’know, those U11s are still not playing like Barcelona after 1 year.”

Pssshhhhh.

I know one of their teams (07) looked like it was a 08 and 09 team.

[Anonymous]

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RantingSoccerDad wrote:

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RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The U13 Bakero team won their bracket. The U11 Guardiola team came 1st in their group and got eliminated in the knockouts by Rockville, who creamed everybody else in that bracket. You are reaching... I sense jealousy?

Seems like a stretch to judge a club by results from a tournament in which most clubs weren't sending their A- and B-teams ... for better or for worse.

Seems a stretch to judge any club by any tournament results.

Unless they're a bit extreme, or unless there's a pattern, sure.

We could ask, though, why they're entering the lower brackets of all these tournaments. That's turning into a pattern. But they do have some good older teams.

Because they are soccer games? What other tournaments were going on last weekend? Why not play in a nearby tournament at a great facility? You of all people complain about the traveling great distances so why would you complain about a club entering a team in a local tournament at a great facility? What was the other choice in June sand soccer?

If they would have blown the top teams of the top brackets out of the water, then maybe they should have picked a better tournament (maybe not this weekend, but they could have picked one of the memorial day tournaments or one of many other tournaments during the spring, many travel teams are done for the season by this point), but turns out to be not a bad pick since they couldn't win bottom brackets of this tournament against some rec teams.

As it's been said about 100 times, they have multiple teams per age group. They did win the Potomac Memorial Bracket (as ratingsdad calls an "A and B" team tournament) with a different U13 team Memorial Day weekend and the Premier Cup a few weeks prior. They can't put all of their teams in the same tournament. Just like travel Clubs put different teams of the same age group in different tournaments. I don't know why that is hard to understand.

Also, you don't go in with no record and get put in the top bracket. That's not how it works. If you don't have an established record of results you start at entry level, just like in NCSL.

They now have several teams that have consistently won brackets of tournaments, so next go around those teams will get placed in higher brackets. How do you not know this stuff?

A lot of criticism for people that know nothing about FCB and apparently nothing about tournament structures.

But, not to miss the point, parents and coaches think it's a success if the kids kept to the style of play and were able to execute it under pressure more so than the final result. And, it shows them what they need to work on in training. As it should be.

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Anonymous wrote:not great results in a rec tournament in maryland this weekend for barcelona

Oh no!! Those kids are now dooomed!!!

if they want rec clubs results and want to play rec club teams the players might as well go save thousands of dollars and play at a local rec club

If a rec club team is going to boot the ball and play kick and run with somewhat athletic kids, that kind of approach can be tough to beat especially at younger age groups. That doesn't mean that kids who learn to play a better style of soccer--including at FCBEscola--aren't going to be more successful down the road if they stick with it. They are also probably having a lot more fun learning to play the way that they are, as opposed to the kids who are playing kickball.

Also, if you're referring to the tournament at Soccerplex this past weekend, I'm not sure I would call that a "rec tournament" but anyway...yes there were some re club teams in it, and also some decent travel teams depending on the age group.

Decent travel teams shouldn't have a problem beating a rec team playing kickball.

I'm sure not many are happy about the performance during the tournament. Most teams were in the bottom bracket, maybe a couple in the second lowest, so playing against some rec teams. Mixed performances in those low brackets, but not a single FCBEscola team were champions.

I'm pretty sure most of the parents are happy because they saw their teams adhere to a style they are being trained to play. But thanks for your watchdog concern.

Thank you.

“Y’know, those U11s are still not playing like Barcelona after 1 year.”

Pssshhhhh.

I know one of their teams (07) looked like it was a 08 and 09 team.

Did you watch the games?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The U13 Bakero team won their bracket. The U11 Guardiola team came 1st in their group and got eliminated in the knockouts by Rockville, who creamed everybody else in that bracket. You are reaching... I sense jealousy?

U13 Bakero didn't win their bracket, Rockville Soccer Club did.

That’s my mistake. They won their group and lost to Rockville in the final.

[Anonymous]

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RantingSoccerDad wrote:

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RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The U13 Bakero team won their bracket. The U11 Guardiola team came 1st in their group and got eliminated in the knockouts by Rockville, who creamed everybody else in that bracket. You are reaching... I sense jealousy?

Seems like a stretch to judge a club by results from a tournament in which most clubs weren't sending their A- and B-teams ... for better or for worse.

Seems a stretch to judge any club by any tournament results.

Unless they're a bit extreme, or unless there's a pattern, sure.

We could ask, though, why they're entering the lower brackets of all these tournaments. That's turning into a pattern. But they do have some good older teams.

Because they are soccer games? What other tournaments were going on last weekend? Why not play in a nearby tournament at a great facility? You of all people complain about the traveling great distances so why would you complain about a club entering a team in a local tournament at a great facility? What was the other choice in June sand soccer?

If they would have blown the top teams of the top brackets out of the water, then maybe they should have picked a better tournament (maybe not this weekend, but they could have picked one of the memorial day tournaments or one of many other tournaments during the spring, many travel teams are done for the season by this point), but turns out to be not a bad pick since they couldn't win bottom brackets of this tournament against some rec teams.

As it's been said about 100 times, they have multiple teams per age group. They did win the Potomac Memorial Bracket (as ratingsdad calls an "A and B" team tournament) with a different U13 team Memorial Day weekend and the Premier Cup a few weeks prior. They can't put all of their teams in the same tournament. Just like travel Clubs put different teams of the same age group in different tournaments. I don't know why that is hard to understand.

Also, you don't go in with no record and get put in the top bracket. That's not how it works. If you don't have an established record of results you start at entry level, just like in NCSL.

They now have several teams that have consistently won brackets of tournaments, so next go around those teams will get placed in higher brackets. How do you not know this stuff?

A lot of criticism for people that know nothing about FCB and apparently nothing about tournament structures.

But, not to miss the point, parents and coaches think it's a success if the kids kept to the style of play and were able to execute it under pressure more so than the final result. And, it shows them what they need to work on in training. As it should be.

They can put multiple teams of the same age group in a single tournament. Multiple teams in an age group would help some of your "A" teams get into higher brackets.

Several teams that have won multiple brackets at tournaments? I know of FCBESCOLA NORTHERN VIRGINIA MARADONA, and a couple others might have won a single tournament, but what other teams have won more than one?

[Anonymous]

I saw the girl u12? play. It looked like they were a mixed age group. They are getting there. They were putting passes together(even in front of their own goal). Give them another year and they will be causing a lot of teams problems. This style you really need speed of play and high soccer IQ.

It is interesting because the style was a lot less physical vs tradional travel teams. It was nice to see girls who get a step on a defender and pass to the open player.

There were a lot of travel players mixed in this tournament.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The U13 Bakero team won their bracket. The U11 Guardiola team came 1st in their group and got eliminated in the knockouts by Rockville, who creamed everybody else in that bracket. You are reaching... I sense jealousy?

Seems like a stretch to judge a club by results from a tournament in which most clubs weren't sending their A- and B-teams ... for better or for worse.

Seems a stretch to judge any club by any tournament results.

Unless they're a bit extreme, or unless there's a pattern, sure.

We could ask, though, why they're entering the lower brackets of all these tournaments. That's turning into a pattern. But they do have some good older teams.

Because they are soccer games? What other tournaments were going on last weekend? Why not play in a nearby tournament at a great facility? You of all people complain about the traveling great distances so why would you complain about a club entering a team in a local tournament at a great facility? What was the other choice in June sand soccer?

If they would have blown the top teams of the top brackets out of the water, then maybe they should have picked a better tournament (maybe not this weekend, but they could have picked one of the memorial day tournaments or one of many other tournaments during the spring, many travel teams are done for the season by this point), but turns out to be not a bad pick since they couldn't win bottom brackets of this tournament against some rec teams.

As it's been said about 100 times, they have multiple teams per age group. They did win the Potomac Memorial Bracket (as ratingsdad calls an "A and B" team tournament) with a different U13 team Memorial Day weekend and the Premier Cup a few weeks prior. They can't put all of their teams in the same tournament. Just like travel Clubs put different teams of the same age group in different tournaments. I don't know why that is hard to understand.

Also, you don't go in with no record and get put in the top bracket. That's not how it works. If you don't have an established record of results you start at entry level, just like in NCSL.

They now have several teams that have consistently won brackets of tournaments, so next go around those teams will get placed in higher brackets. How do you not know this stuff?

A lot of criticism for people that know nothing about FCB and apparently nothing about tournament structures.

But, not to miss the point, parents and coaches think it's a success if the kids kept to the style of play and were able to execute it under pressure more so than the final result. And, it shows them what they need to work on in training. As it should be.

They can put multiple teams of the same age group in a single tournament. Multiple teams in an age group would help some of your "A" teams get into higher brackets.

Several teams that have won multiple brackets at tournaments? I know of FCBESCOLA NORTHERN VIRGINIA MARADONA, and a couple others might have won a single tournament, but what other teams have won more than one?

Belleti 05

[Anonymous]

FCB is just wrapping up it’s first year. They have to place into higher level tournaments, you don’t just get in. It’s a big boys club and newcomers have a hard time getting their foot in. Anyone that knows about the travel scene in the area could tell you that. Again, you are overly concerned with results. The Ibrahimovic team isn’t even the top FCB team in their age group.