Yes we did this at Oberlin two years ago before my daughter applied ED. It was merit only but we knew going in how much she would get. |
Wooster was the eye opener for me. Kenyon and Oberlin I knew. Wooster? I knew nothing going in. But they are teaching hardcore science research and writing and practical skills (we were looking at the science department), and then requiring every graduate to do a major senior thesis. If you are English, you are writing a book or play. Or doing social science research, Etc. So much hands on research going on among the undergrads, and such nice, smart, down to Earth kids. Who love the school. And not just the kids leading tours— the ones we stopped and talked to who were working in the library. Most years they have 100% med school placement, and one of the highest per capita PhD attainments in the nation among grads. With an unbelievable percent of alums donating. My kid really wants to apply. And I would be all for it, except... my kid is at TJ. And the issue isn’t that Wooster somehow isn’t good enough. It is. But, the Wooster science skills practicals and science research and writing classes and senior project closely track the TJ curriculum. So I would need to really talk to someone at the school and be convinced he would be getting added value, and not a rehash of HS, or that he could place out of classes where he had the skills. Otherwise, I think it would be a wonderful place for him to be, and would encourage intellectual risk taking and creativity and exploring passions in a way TJ does not because there are so few electives. Kenyon impressed me. Oberlin impressed me. We skipped Denison because it was missing an academic program my kid wants. But Wooster was something special. If you make the trek to look at the Ohio SLACs, I would encourage you to read the CTCL profile on Wooster and go tour. I significantly underestimated them. |
That is so nice. DS will not qualify for need based, and needs X amount of merit to make it work. And Oberlin is a clear front runner. I love the idea of being able to ED, even if you need financial aid. I wish more schools did this. |
Grinnell is the class of all the schools that you've listed, gives excellent merit aid to top students (which your TJ student undoubtedly is), and has a very strong science program. Its endowment is a billion dollars more than oberlin and denison and macalester and five times wooster. It has a lot of money to spend on the sciences -- you'll see when you tour. |
I absolutely love Grinnell on paper. My kid is balking at Iowa. But wants the 2000-3000 SLAC experience and needs merit aid. He has been told that he is going with me in the spring, when he is far enough along his junior year to interview on campus. If I am paying for college, he is going to at least look at a school that has absolutely everything he wants, at least on paper. He tends to resist the unknown, so I am hoping being on campus will help it click. But I agree— impressive place. |
How is Grinnell’s math department? |
And you can appeal if you think they didn't offer you enough - they originally gave us a lower amount of merit and i had my daughter write back and see if they would increase it slightly and they did. Just FYI. She loves Oberlin so we're glad it worked out. |
Thanks for the heads up. Fingers crossed that I have a kid joining her there soon! |
In the DMV folks often group USC and UCLA and many opinions seemed to be ossified from an earlier era. USC and UCLA are ranked the same by USNWS, both are in LA and they are rivals - but the schools are very, very different. UCLA is an elite public school that has become predominately Asian and ony about 20% OOS. All of the California public schools have faced budget cuts. USC is one of the nations largest private schools and a favored destination of the children of the 1% - now more than 50% OOS. I'm not sure a campus tour alone would give one an appreciation of the difference between the two. |
| UMASS Amherst, Fordham and Delaware are now hot |
Fordham is shockingly expensive, especially given that there are tons of schools in its class - like UMass and Delaware that you mentioned - that are just as good and half the price. |
If the student is looking for a Jesuit education, UMAss and Delaware aren't "just as good." |
Fordham is rated a three way tie 61 school in USA. Syracuse, Fordham and university of Maryland at college park. Fordham even more expensive as school has free shuttle bus to Manhattan and rich kids go out in Manhattan a lot |
Fordham offered my daughter 34k in merit. She selected a different school for a variety of reasons but they were willing to work with us. She worked hard and had good stats - 1550 SAT, top 2% of class, etc. but I sensed they were willing to buy top ranked kids. |
| Anymore “Hot colleges” to list??? |