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Anonymous
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To PP:
What logical point are you trying to make? I think you should get some rest before you lose your mind completely. |
Anonymous
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Before co-education, white girls (many from analogous elite prep schools) were beneficiaries of affirmative action and preferential admissions at the "seven sister" schools of higher education (e.g, Wellesley, Smith, Holyoke). Many in turn duly married their affirmative action male Ivy graduate counterparts.
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Anonymous
| 7 sisters are not Ivies and never will be. |
Anonymous
that's crap based on my decades old personal application experience. |
Anonymous
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What was it that Elizabeth Bennett said to Mr. Darcy? Something like "you intentionally misinterpret everything".
The question had nothing to do with affirmative action in the past, which (a) nobody is denying existed, and (b) everybody here seems to agree was a bad thing (even the post you said supported it - I never saw her say that affirmative action for white boys was a good thing, anywhere). We have agreement on this one thing at least. So we need to move on from the subject of affirmative action for white boys in the past. The question was: was it, or was it not, OK for the mom with the white girl to mention affirmative action (plus no athletic skills, and despite top grades & scores) as a possible reason why her daughter is at a statistical disadvantage TODAY. It seemed like it wasn't, from the way other moms jumped on her. To repeat: the key word is "today," i.e. we're not discussing affirmative action in the past. So could somebody please clarify about whether: is it OK to talk about affirmative action, or mention it in a post on DCUM, in the context of describing relative admissions advantages TODAY. And please, "visual" hallucination, which is what you see, not "auditory" hallucination which refers to what you hear. |
Anonymous
There seem to be several posters on each side. She wasn't me. And your ad hominem attacks are pretty childish, do cut them out before you undermine your own arguments completely. |
Anonymous
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To 18:47: I actually said explicitly that I disapprove of affirmative action for George Bush and other members of the old white boys' network (in my post yesterday at 18:30). But you chose to ignore it and accuse me of supporting admissions favors for George Bush anyway. Why????? Never mind, let's drop it.
Could you just answer the question that's well-stated in 9:14? It's time to leave George Bush behind, and get back to the question of the mom with the white girl who wasn't accepted. Was it wrong to mention that her kid is not favored today? |
Anonymous
My seven sisters schools was accepting black women in the 40s -- there's a black alumna (pretty old at this point, like the rest of her class) mentioned in the Alumnae Quarterly which I got this week. There probably weren't all that many AAs there back then, because I'm guessing the problem was that not many AAs could afford to send their kids to a private college in those days. But the point is there were some. |
Anonymous
| The last question is irrelevant to this post. What is very relevant is that you are the paranoid woman with both auditory and visual hallucinations who for lack of argument seeks refuge by accusing others of calling your a racist (in your own unadulterated words). One wonders how much about the Ivy League or the Seven Sisters you really know? Did you even attend university? |
Anonymous
| I agree. There were a sprinkling of AAs in these schools over the last century and a half. Seems you think this is the rule rather than the exception? |
Anonymous
| Boring old vanilla girls are the ones who are losing out today. And, I'm opposed to discrimination of any kind...sex, race, creed, religion, etc. For the person who jumped on the poster who said AA men were accepted into the Ivies before boring vanilla girls. That is true. Check out "The Chosen" by Prof. Karabel of Berkeley. He's not in favor of discrimination either...he just explored how people used to get into the Ivies up until today's tmes. |
Anonymous
Again, please stop with the ad hominem attacks, and please stop misinterpreting my posts. I won't even dignify the post above with an answer. Again: Why did people jump on the mom with the white girl who didn't make it into college (I'm not that mom, by the way)? Could somebody (not poster above, who seems to be a master of avoidance) answer this? |
Anonymous
| I agree with PP...so why did everyone jump on that mom of vanilla white girl? |
Anonymous
\ Troll. |
Anonymous
| I'm vanilla's mom ... she has turned out just fine.. and we're not holding any grudges. For the mean spirited mom who offered her "brown-skinned daughter" would get mine a job -- thanks for the offer. But, mine is well set as she established her own company ten years ago and hires people of all colors, races, schools, whatever. |