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Anonymous
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Correcting a typo:
So my point is, it's equally wrong to mock today's Asian or white kid, just as it was wrong to mock yesterday's Jewish or AA kid. |
Anonymous
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I am happy you are a strong supporter of affirmative action. The issue is now resolved. The Ivy League is also a strong supporter of affirmative action, 100 years ago, today and likely in future.
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Anonymous
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I'm sorry, but I don't see how your last post furthers the debate.
Are you arguing that it's OK to use George Bush to mock other people's statistically disadvantaged kids? Plus, is it necessary to deny that affirmative action puts some kids at a statistical disadvantage, in order to support it? |
Anonymous
Wow, way to completely mis-state her point! She never, ever, ever said the Ivy League supported affirmative action 100 years ago. And besides it's completely off her point. This was an interesting discussion until now, too bad. |
Anonymous
The answer would appear to be "yes".... |
Anonymous
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I am not making that argument.
With regards mocking another individual or group you are referring to another poster and not I. In case you missed my point. The Ivy League is a longtime supporter of affirmative action...yesteryear, today and likely in future. You need only study the annals of their graduating classes over the last 150 years to discover the legion beneficiaries. I gather you support this practice. |
Anonymous
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This is ridiculous. Calling me a racist who supports old-style Ivy League preferences is surely beneath you.
My question refers to your complaint about the mom with the white daughter. Why can she not mention minority preferences, in a string of other preferences, including athletic? So, once and for all. Without calling me a racist, could you answer: Must we deny that affirmative action exists, if we support it? Can we never even mention it on places like DCUM? |
Anonymous
| Ad hominem attack: attack the person (she is a racist) and not the argument. Like me arguing against the Iraq War by saying "George Bush is a moron". Cheapest debating tactic in the book. |
Anonymous
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Calm down. Do not cry wolf!
Who called you a racist? Again, you are dead wrong about my bashing or making fun of another poster. You are clearly confusing me with other posters. I will reiterate for you again: The concept of affirmative action and preferences is not new. The Ivy League institutions have long supported affirmative action and preferential treatment since the days of their founding. Not so long ago, these institutions extended preferences to those destined for the clergy, products of select private schools ("blue blood") the wealthy and legacies. As the Ivy League became athletically competitive affirmative action was extended to athletes (e.g., rowers). SAT scores and grades took a back seat ("Gentleman's C"). George W. Bush and John Kerry are examples. Recently, affirmative action has been extended to other demographic groups previously denied entry to these higher educational institutions. Today, admission to the Ivies has become very competitive for whites, asians and even AAs. You have read about the personal experiences of this phenomena from AAs, whites and asians on this board. Many of us who attended Ivies would have a snow ball's chance in hell getting in now. If an Ivy admission for your progeny is your goal in life you had a petty good return on your investment in the old days of affirmative action for preppies. Today, if you assume you have a seat in Ivy because you're paid for your dear to attend a fancy private school you will be disappointed. And no one has taken that Ivy seat destined for your child. There is no poster on this board that has called you are "racist". This is an auditory hallucination on your part. I do believe I interpreted your responses correctly? You do support affirmative action. So. too, does the Ivy League ... for well over a hundred years. |
Anonymous
Yes, the charge of racism is definitely in here. Buried in the snarky reference to affirmative action for white boys. Also, calling this an "auditory" hallucination would be incorrect for something that is read not heard.... Let me rephrase, in hopes of getting an answer: Is it ever OK to mention affirmative action as it is applied today, without being called a racist? This responds directly to the case with the mom with the top scoring kid, who mentioned it in passing and got slammed. or Is mentioning George Bush the only, the single, way to talk about affirmative action today? |
Anonymous
| Simple question for a paraniod mind: Who called you a racist? |
Anonymous
| I am still looking for where I buried the term racism to ascribe your auditory and paranoid ideation? |
Anonymous
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I do not think the poster called you a racist. It appears you find it difficult to accept that whites have also benefited from affirmative action at Ivy League schools. The poster has not bashed individuals who unfortunately don't gain Ivy admission. If I read the trail correctly, the poster may have a niece that did not get into Harvard and Yale but decided to go MIT.
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Anonymous
| PP -- AA males got into Ivies before white girls...white girls never received preferences from the Ivies |
Anonymous
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The poster's niece who was not admitted to Yale or Harvard and went to MIT was a girl not a boy (by definition)...so what is your point?
Grasping at straws here! |