Teachers who never visited VA historic places

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Anonymous wrote:The real issue is not if a teacher has never visited Jamestown or other sites specifically but if a teacher does not find those places relevant.

A child seeing Jamestown or the battlefields etc is far different than reading about it. Like a science experiment or working with animals.

Not necessarily. It all depends. Go to the Smithsonian during the day when the kids are there. Some are guided and attentive--others are running wild.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The real issue is not if a teacher has never visited Jamestown or other sites specifically but if a teacher does not find those places relevant.

A child seeing Jamestown or the battlefields etc is far different than reading about it. Like a science experiment or working with animals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The real issue is not if a teacher has never visited Jamestown or other sites specifically but if a teacher does not find those places relevant.

A child seeing Jamestown or the battlefields etc is far different than reading about it. Like a science experiment or working with animals.

But OP wasn't talking about whether the teacher is taking his/her students to these places (which is not up to an individual teacher, but up to the school, and likely dependent on PTA funds, because charter buses are $$$$$$), or whether teacher finds them relevant. OP is complaining that the teacher didn't visit these places on his/her own time for his/her own edification, and insinuating that this reveals that the teacher is not a good teacher/not patriotic and/or teacher is not intellectually curious. Which is, of course, absurd. All of this is absurd. I'm done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The real issue is not if a teacher has never visited Jamestown or other sites specifically but if a teacher does not find those places relevant.

A child seeing Jamestown or the battlefields etc is far different than reading about it. Like a science experiment or working with animals.

But OP wasn't talking about whether the teacher is taking his/her students to these places (which is not up to an individual teacher, but up to the school, and likely dependent on PTA funds, because charter buses are $$$$$$), or whether teacher finds them relevant. OP is complaining that the teacher didn't visit these places on his/her own time for his/her own edification, and insinuating that this reveals that the teacher is not a good teacher/not patriotic and/or teacher is not intellectually curious. Which is, of course, absurd. All of this is absurd. I'm done.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The real issue is not if a teacher has never visited Jamestown or other sites specifically but if a teacher does not find those places relevant.

A child seeing Jamestown or the battlefields etc is far different than reading about it. Like a science experiment or working with animals.

But OP wasn't talking about whether the teacher is taking his/her students to these places (which is not up to an individual teacher, but up to the school, and likely dependent on PTA funds, because charter buses are $$$$$$), or whether teacher finds them relevant. OP is complaining that the teacher didn't visit these places on his/her own time for his/her own edification, and insinuating that this reveals that the teacher is not a good teacher/not patriotic and/or teacher is not intellectually curious. Which is, of course, absurd. All of this is absurd. I'm done.

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I'm glad you're finally done, because you lack the ability to make a good interpretation. It is absurd that you cannot think clearly when you read. Good luck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The real issue is not if a teacher has never visited Jamestown or other sites specifically but if a teacher does not find those places relevant.

A child seeing Jamestown or the battlefields etc is far different than reading about it. Like a science experiment or working with animals.

But OP wasn't talking about whether the teacher is taking his/her students to these places (which is not up to an individual teacher, but up to the school, and likely dependent on PTA funds, because charter buses are $$$$$$), or whether teacher finds them relevant. OP is complaining that the teacher didn't visit these places on his/her own time for his/her own edification, and insinuating that this reveals that the teacher is not a good teacher/not patriotic and/or teacher is not intellectually curious. Which is, of course, absurd. All of this is absurd. I'm done.

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I'm glad you're finally done, because you lack the ability to make a good interpretation. It is absurd that you cannot think clearly when you read. Good luck.

WTF? Did you run out of ways to tear down your kid's teacher so now you are trying to attack PP? Take a look at yourself. You are the one lashing out, making baseless judgements of others. Time for some self-reflection to determine why you are such a jerk to others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps the two teachers grew up in this area before there was much to see at Jamestown. Lots of people used to go to Williamsburg without visiting Jamestown. There wasn't much to see there even fifteen years ago.

perhaps it's time for the two teachers to know about this and go check it out? plus there may not be much to see for an adult, but i'm sure for a teacher teaching jamestown there's a lot worth sharing with the kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The real issue is not if a teacher has never visited Jamestown or other sites specifically but if a teacher does not find those places relevant.

A child seeing Jamestown or the battlefields etc is far different than reading about it. Like a science experiment or working with animals.

But OP wasn't talking about whether the teacher is taking his/her students to these places (which is not up to an individual teacher, but up to the school, and likely dependent on PTA funds, because charter buses are $$$$$$), or whether teacher finds them relevant. OP is complaining that the teacher didn't visit these places on his/her own time for his/her own edification, and insinuating that this reveals that the teacher is not a good teacher/not patriotic and/or teacher is not intellectually curious. Which is, of course, absurd. All of this is absurd. I'm done.

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I'm glad you're finally done, because you lack the ability to make a good interpretation. It is absurd that you cannot think clearly when you read. Good luck.

WTF? Did you run out of ways to tear down your kid's teacher so now you are trying to attack PP? Take a look at yourself. You are the one lashing out, making baseless judgements of others. Time for some self-reflection to determine why you are such a jerk to others.

You are the one who needs a whole week of self-reflection and seek therapy for your insecurities. This thread is not about tearing down a teacher personally, it is about finding out why many teachers don't want to visit historic places around town. That is ALL. You are the one attacking with your vulgar vocabulary.
Adieu

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Anonymous wrote:The real issue is not if a teacher has never visited Jamestown or other sites specifically but if a teacher does not find those places relevant.

A child seeing Jamestown or the battlefields etc is far different than reading about it. Like a science experiment or working with animals.

But OP wasn't talking about whether the teacher is taking his/her students to these places (which is not up to an individual teacher, but up to the school, and likely dependent on PTA funds, because charter buses are $$$$$$), or whether teacher finds them relevant. OP is complaining that the teacher didn't visit these places on his/her own time for his/her own edification, and insinuating that this reveals that the teacher is not a good teacher/not patriotic and/or teacher is not intellectually curious. Which is, of course, absurd. All of this is absurd. I'm done.

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I'm glad you're finally done, because you lack the ability to make a good interpretation. It is absurd that you cannot think clearly when you read. Good luck.

WTF? Did you run out of ways to tear down your kid's teacher so now you are trying to attack PP? Take a look at yourself. You are the one lashing out, making baseless judgements of others. Time for some self-reflection to determine why you are such a jerk to others.

You are the one who needs a whole week of self-reflection and seek therapy for your insecurities. This thread is not about tearing down a teacher personally, it is about finding out why many teachers don't want to visit historic places around town. That is ALL. You are the one attacking with your vulgar vocabulary.
Adieu

New poster here--

OP, you really need to stop. Really you do. You do not come across as intelligent at all. In fact, you seem unhinged-which is a word I was hesitant to use because it gets thrown around a lot on this site, with little to no evidence to support the claim. But you've gone on for 10+ pages.

If your goal was to get the answer to a question, fine, you got one. So why not go, "Hmmmm....okay, I get it now" instead of insisting on being ridiculously judgemental?

Several posters--teachers and non-teachers--have told you you're being ridiculous and tried to reason with you. But instead of reflecting, you insist on bulldozing through with your assumptions.

I can easily make judgments about parents who don't take their children abroad, send their children to summer camps, have at least $100,000 saved for their education by the time they finish the 4th grade. I mean, my parents did all of those things for me, and I did all of those things for my kids, sooooo...What's wrong with you???? Does that make you financially irresponsible? Intellectually stunted?? A bad parent?

We can do this judgement thing all day.

Remember: Everytime you point the finger at someone else, there are 4 pointing back at you. Seriously, log off and face what's really wrong with you.

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PS: Your copy/paste responses (Ex: Poster says "You need to reflect" and you respond "You need to reflect") is further proof that you are intellectually stunted and immature.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The real issue is not if a teacher has never visited Jamestown or other sites specifically but if a teacher does not find those places relevant.

A child seeing Jamestown or the battlefields etc is far different than reading about it. Like a science experiment or working with animals.

But OP wasn't talking about whether the teacher is taking his/her students to these places (which is not up to an individual teacher, but up to the school, and likely dependent on PTA funds, because charter buses are $$$$$$), or whether teacher finds them relevant. OP is complaining that the teacher didn't visit these places on his/her own time for his/her own edification, and insinuating that this reveals that the teacher is not a good teacher/not patriotic and/or teacher is not intellectually curious. Which is, of course, absurd. All of this is absurd. I'm done.

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I'm glad you're finally done, because you lack the ability to make a good interpretation. It is absurd that you cannot think clearly when you read. Good luck.

WTF? Did you run out of ways to tear down your kid's teacher so now you are trying to attack PP? Take a look at yourself. You are the one lashing out, making baseless judgements of others. Time for some self-reflection to determine why you are such a jerk to others.

+1 OP is insane.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at Jamestown over the weekend with my kids. We thought a Williamsburg trip for a couple days would be fun and we went to Jamestown for a few hours. It's fascinating if you've never been. It only took 2 hrs/25 mins to get there, so you could easily go up and back in a day. It cost about $40 for my whole family to get in.

I'm actually with OP. I'd be surprised if a history teacher that lives in this area has not been to Jamestown. It's significant to U.S. history, not just Virginia history. I do think it shows a lack of intellectual curiosity. Plus, children learn better from teachers who are both informed and excited by the subject matter. And hands on projects and field trips make the subject matter "stick" for kids.

Sure you were, OP.

I'm not the OP. My inlaws got a deal on a condo for the week so we made a side trip. It was fun and educational. And I'm not even a teacher...just someone out there who actually likes to learn something once in a while.

The above poster is not OP. I am OP. Hey, there are other key historic places to visit in VA, not just Jamestown. My mom, who was an ES teacher, put my brothers and I in the car and took us to many exciting places during the day. It is not about asking for reimbursements, it is about intellectual curiosity as the previous poster pointed out.

Now I get it! Your mum couldn't afford to take you and your siblings abroad. Local jaunts were the best she could do. In turn, you valued those experiences and gave them to your children. GREAT!


So why can't you understand that others had different experiences which gave them different interests and values??? I'm truly wondering about the emotional maturity of some people. I don't understand this "I do this. Why can't/don't you? And if you don't that means there's something wrong with you or you are somehow inferior" attitude in anyone past the age of like, 23.

You obviously rush in your interpretations and lack the background knowledge needed. Something's wrong with the posters getting very defensive and aggresive every time teachers get questioned. I repeat: QUESTIONED. It doesn't mean "picking on them"

Guess you haven't been following along:

"unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower?"

"It shows a lack of intellectual curiosity. Obviously, teaching for them is just a job."

"teachers like that are doing the bare minimum and earn the lowest respect from me"

"I do think it shows a lack of intellectual curiosity."

"it is about intellectual curiosity"

"Kids appreciate when their teachers transmit a passion for learning and making efforts to learn good stuff every day. If teaching is not your passion and you're asking someone else to be your constant fundraiser...you need to part ways with the profession."

etc.

Thank you for taking care of my light work.

Those are a whoooolllleeee lot of assumptions based on someone we know nothing about other than they're teachers and haven't been to Jamestown.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at Jamestown over the weekend with my kids. We thought a Williamsburg trip for a couple days would be fun and we went to Jamestown for a few hours. It's fascinating if you've never been. It only took 2 hrs/25 mins to get there, so you could easily go up and back in a day. It cost about $40 for my whole family to get in.

I'm actually with OP. I'd be surprised if a history teacher that lives in this area has not been to Jamestown. It's significant to U.S. history, not just Virginia history. I do think it shows a lack of intellectual curiosity. Plus, children learn better from teachers who are both informed and excited by the subject matter. And hands on projects and field trips make the subject matter "stick" for kids.

Sure you were, OP.

I'm not the OP. My inlaws got a deal on a condo for the week so we made a side trip. It was fun and educational. And I'm not even a teacher...just someone out there who actually likes to learn something once in a while.

The above poster is not OP. I am OP. Hey, there are other key historic places to visit in VA, not just Jamestown. My mom, who was an ES teacher, put my brothers and I in the car and took us to many exciting places during the day. It is not about asking for reimbursements, it is about intellectual curiosity as the previous poster pointed out.

Now I get it! Your mum couldn't afford to take you and your siblings abroad. Local jaunts were the best she could do. In turn, you valued those experiences and gave them to your children. GREAT!


So why can't you understand that others had different experiences which gave them different interests and values??? I'm truly wondering about the emotional maturity of some people. I don't understand this "I do this. Why can't/don't you? And if you don't that means there's something wrong with you or you are somehow inferior" attitude in anyone past the age of like, 23.

You obviously rush in your interpretations and lack the background knowledge needed. Something's wrong with the posters getting very defensive and aggresive every time teachers get questioned. I repeat: QUESTIONED. It doesn't mean "picking on them"

Guess you haven't been following along:

"unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower?"

"It shows a lack of intellectual curiosity. Obviously, teaching for them is just a job."

"teachers like that are doing the bare minimum and earn the lowest respect from me"

"I do think it shows a lack of intellectual curiosity."

"it is about intellectual curiosity"

"Kids appreciate when their teachers transmit a passion for learning and making efforts to learn good stuff every day. If teaching is not your passion and you're asking someone else to be your constant fundraiser...you need to part ways with the profession."

etc.

Those statements reflect the experiences of different parents who have the right to question teachers.

Parents have the right to question teachers? About what? The only questions you should have should pertain to your child(ren) not what the teacher does in his/her spare time.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at Jamestown over the weekend with my kids. We thought a Williamsburg trip for a couple days would be fun and we went to Jamestown for a few hours. It's fascinating if you've never been. It only took 2 hrs/25 mins to get there, so you could easily go up and back in a day. It cost about $40 for my whole family to get in.

I'm actually with OP. I'd be surprised if a history teacher that lives in this area has not been to Jamestown. It's significant to U.S. history, not just Virginia history. I do think it shows a lack of intellectual curiosity. Plus, children learn better from teachers who are both informed and excited by the subject matter. And hands on projects and field trips make the subject matter "stick" for kids.

Sure you were, OP.

I'm not the OP. My inlaws got a deal on a condo for the week so we made a side trip. It was fun and educational. And I'm not even a teacher...just someone out there who actually likes to learn something once in a while.

The above poster is not OP. I am OP. Hey, there are other key historic places to visit in VA, not just Jamestown. My mom, who was an ES teacher, put my brothers and I in the car and took us to many exciting places during the day. It is not about asking for reimbursements, it is about intellectual curiosity as the previous poster pointed out.

Now I get it! Your mum couldn't afford to take you and your siblings abroad. Local jaunts were the best she could do. In turn, you valued those experiences and gave them to your children. GREAT!


So why can't you understand that others had different experiences which gave them different interests and values??? I'm truly wondering about the emotional maturity of some people. I don't understand this "I do this. Why can't/don't you? And if you don't that means there's something wrong with you or you are somehow inferior" attitude in anyone past the age of like, 23.

You obviously rush in your interpretations and lack the background knowledge needed. Something's wrong with the posters getting very defensive and aggresive every time teachers get questioned. I repeat: QUESTIONED. It doesn't mean "picking on them"

Well, aren't you the POT!!!!

YOU have NO background knowledge about the teachers you're judging. And the poster below you pointed out how your posts aggressively judged teachers after that initial question-which was a judgment in itself.

I don't understand the teacher hate and judgement in here at all. Are parents that pissed that teachers get summers off????

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Anonymous wrote:I was at Jamestown over the weekend with my kids. We thought a Williamsburg trip for a couple days would be fun and we went to Jamestown for a few hours. It's fascinating if you've never been. It only took 2 hrs/25 mins to get there, so you could easily go up and back in a day. It cost about $40 for my whole family to get in.

I'm actually with OP. I'd be surprised if a history teacher that lives in this area has not been to Jamestown. It's significant to U.S. history, not just Virginia history. I do think it shows a lack of intellectual curiosity. Plus, children learn better from teachers who are both informed and excited by the subject matter. And hands on projects and field trips make the subject matter "stick" for kids.

Sure you were, OP.

I'm not the OP. My inlaws got a deal on a condo for the week so we made a side trip. It was fun and educational. And I'm not even a teacher...just someone out there who actually likes to learn something once in a while.

The above poster is not OP. I am OP. Hey, there are other key historic places to visit in VA, not just Jamestown. My mom, who was an ES teacher, put my brothers and I in the car and took us to many exciting places during the day. It is not about asking for reimbursements, it is about intellectual curiosity as the previous poster pointed out.

Now I get it! Your mum couldn't afford to take you and your siblings abroad. Local jaunts were the best she could do. In turn, you valued those experiences and gave them to your children. GREAT!


So why can't you understand that others had different experiences which gave them different interests and values??? I'm truly wondering about the emotional maturity of some people. I don't understand this "I do this. Why can't/don't you? And if you don't that means there's something wrong with you or you are somehow inferior" attitude in anyone past the age of like, 23.

You obviously rush in your interpretations and lack the background knowledge needed. Something's wrong with the posters getting very defensive and aggresive every time teachers get questioned. I repeat: QUESTIONED. It doesn't mean "picking on them"

Guess you haven't been following along:

"unbelieable. can our expectations of good teachers be any lower?"

"It shows a lack of intellectual curiosity. Obviously, teaching for them is just a job."

"teachers like that are doing the bare minimum and earn the lowest respect from me"

"I do think it shows a lack of intellectual curiosity."

"it is about intellectual curiosity"

"Kids appreciate when their teachers transmit a passion for learning and making efforts to learn good stuff every day. If teaching is not your passion and you're asking someone else to be your constant fundraiser...you need to part ways with the profession."

etc.

Those statements reflect the experiences of different parents who have the right to question teachers.

They aren't just questioning, they are flat out accusing teachers of lacking intellectual curiosity, lacking passion, lacking commitment, only doing the bare minimum, etc. They say they lose respect for them and even go as far to say that teachers should find another job.

As a parent, I find this to be ridiculous and incredibly disrespectful to teachers. A bunch of complainer parents with nothing better to do. They should be thanking their children's teachers instead of insulting them.

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High five!