2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort

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Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.

Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."

9:30pm is dusk? I wouldn't be in the water at night by no swimming signs with any other the kids I work with. Who doesn't know about alligators and fresh water?

Sunset is at 8:24 PM in Orlando (today). The further south you get, the earlier it becomes dark.

Signage was up, the parents will not have a case against Disney. It doesn't matter if the child was in 1 inch of water or 2 feet of water. Signage will cover any legal recourse.

Wrong. There were no signs about alligators and the area was not roped off. This was a resort event on the beach and there was a life guard and employees present. Disney is going to pay serious bank to this family and witnesses.

Really?
http://wtop.com/national/2016/06/deputies-gator-drags-toddler-into-water-near-disney-resort/

Disney spokeswoman Jacquee Wahaler said everyone at the resort was devastated by what happened and Disney is helping the family.

When asked if Disney was aware of alligators on the property, Wahaler advised there were signs that said “no swimming.”

Williamson brushed aside reporters’ questions about the odds of rescuing the child at this point. “Right now, hopefully, we’re searching for a little boy to bring the family some comfort,” he said.

Demings said there had been no other recent reports of similar alligator attacks on the lake.

There gas never been an alligator attack at WDW before this

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CNN reports that the father actually got in and tried to pull the boy out of the gator's grip. Then the mother jumped in to try and find him. Looks like both parents were fairly close to the boy and attempted to save him.

The signs prohibited swimming. Without proper warning of dangerous animals in a lagoon near an expensive resort hotel, Disney is as much at fault as parents who let their 2 year old go wading at dusk.

I just hope they recover the little guy's body. If the gators swim in and out of the lagoon from natural waterways, he could be long gone by now.

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We wanted to experience "old Florida" and went swimming with our family (3, 5 yo) at Weeki Wachee Springs a natural tourist attraction. There was a LARGE gator swimming in the water while we were swimming. Grabbed the kids and swam/ ran for the shore. The shore area is shallow. The park rangers were laughing, but I noticed that everyone cleared out of the water. They kept telling us that the gators wouldn't bother us... Glad I did not listen. That poor family ---

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" It was like Mr. Burns' legal team in the Simpsons "

lol. Just as I'd imagine.

My next question is why were there lifeguards if swimming was not allowed?

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Anonymous wrote:"So far, no. I suspect there will be a lot more dead gators from that lake. If anything, I think Disney is likely to use this to get whatever waivers they need to cull alligators on their property more ruthlessly. "

Good. I hope they start culling statewide, and throughout the Southeast. Enough with the stupid environmentalists. The gators are a dangerous nuisance. They should have died out with the dinosaurs. Biologically, they're much, much older than us. They've had a good run, now it's time to go.

When you remove in animals natural predators, other species are allowed to flourish, and then become problems. We can just remove one creature from the ecosystem everything to me fine.

What would happen if we remove just the mosquitoes though?

Scientists are currently trying to figure that out/figure out if it's possible. In heavily populated tropical zones, the benefits to humans would be enormous (no more malaria, yellow fever, dengue, zika...!), but they just don't know what ripple effect there might be.

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We are going to Disney this weekend. What are the odds that it won't be too crowded now?

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Anonymous wrote:How is Disney negligent if there are signs that say not to go into the water? I'm serious.

Holding an outdoor movie near the lake:

Assuming the responsibility for removing gators from Bay Lake and missing this one;

Failure to post signs that explain how dangerous gators are (the family is from Nebraska)

Failure to train the lifeguard on how to wrangle alligators

No lifeguard is going "wrangle" an alligator. What crazy alternative universe do some of you live in?

LOL seriously. One does not simply get trained to "wrangle" a prehistoric predator that can eat humans. That is not in a lifeguard's job description anywhere on this planet.

And yet tyhe lifeguard tried. Some kind of training was needed, even if it was just call 911 first, rather than trying to wrestle the gator

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Anonymous wrote:CNN reports that the father actually got in and tried to pull the boy out of the gator's grip. Then the mother jumped in to try and find him. Looks like both parents were fairly close to the boy and attempted to save him.

The signs prohibited swimming. Without proper warning of dangerous animals in a lagoon near an expensive resort hotel, Disney is as much at fault as parents who let their 2 year old go wading at dusk.

I just hope they recover the little guy's body. If the gators swim in and out of the lagoon from natural waterways, he could be long gone by now.

They may recover part of it but a large portion of his body is being digested in the gators stomach right now.

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Anonymous wrote:" It was like Mr. Burns' legal team in the Simpsons "

lol. Just as I'd imagine.

My next question is why were there lifeguards if swimming was not allowed?

Im guessing the lifeguard was actually at one of the nearby pools. I wish I could see it pinpointed on a map exactly where they were.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney was negligent.

Every family that witnessed the tragedy will sue. Disney will quickly settle, paying through the nose and securing no disclosure agreements to prevent interviews, and signs will be posted all over the property (to shift risk).

I'm sure they will get money but Disney wasn't negligent. Nature happens. An alligator, indigenous to fresh water in Florida and animals who feed at night, got into a pond on Disney property. Shit happens. It's tragic but it's the first time it's ever happened in this park that serves millions of visitors so to say it was negligence isn't fair. It was an unfortunate accident.

+1. If I were on a jury for this case, knowing the facts currently available, I wouldn't award any money. Disney cannot control the alligator population on its property.

As for the posters claiming eyewitnesses will be able to sue, you clearly know nothing about the law.

I'm a lawyer, and I recognize that anybody can file a lawsuit.

Disney will settle and secure non-disclosure agreements to prevent people from being interviewed by media. Disney wants to kill this story quickly. Big settlements with witnesses, and no jury trial for the family...they'll get a ginormous settlement.

Witnesses could pursue emotional distress claims. Disney has the best lawyers in the world. But I don't see how they can make the story go away. It's international news.

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Anonymous wrote:How is Disney negligent if there are signs that say not to go into the water? I'm serious.

Holding an outdoor movie near the lake:

Assuming the responsibility for removing gators from Bay Lake and missing this one;

Failure to post signs that explain how dangerous gators are (the family is from Nebraska)

Failure to train the lifeguard on how to wrangle alligators

No lifeguard is going "wrangle" an alligator. What crazy alternative universe do some of you live in?

LOL seriously. One does not simply get trained to "wrangle" a prehistoric predator that can eat humans. That is not in a lifeguard's job description anywhere on this planet.

And yet tyhe lifeguard tried. Some kind of training was needed, even if it was just call 911 first, rather than trying to wrestle the gator[/quote
There's no training to give! A lifeguard tried because it's human instinct to help a child in danger, not because there's known techniques for overpowering a reptile with the strongest jaws on earth.

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Anonymous wrote:Geez all the back and forth- this baby was two years old. Can you even imagine the terror and trauma? Imagine being his mom or dad witnessing such a thing happening to to their little boy and completely unable to stop it?

If that happened to my precious boy (my only child) I would be done and looking for an exit strategy.

I'm with you. I can't even imagine.

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Anonymous wrote:We are going to Disney this weekend. What are the odds that it won't be too crowded now?

Slim to none.

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If the father had been armed, he could have shot the gator.

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Anonymous wrote:We are going to Disney this weekend. What are the odds that it won't be too crowded now?

Slim to none.

Damn