2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort

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Anonymous wrote:"So far, no. I suspect there will be a lot more dead gators from that lake. If anything, I think Disney is likely to use this to get whatever waivers they need to cull alligators on their property more ruthlessly. "

Good. I hope they start culling statewide, and throughout the Southeast. Enough with the stupid environmentalists. The gators are a dangerous nuisance. They should have died out with the dinosaurs. Biologically, they're much, much older than us. They've had a good run, now it's time to go.


When you remove in animals natural predators, other species are allowed to flourish, and then become problems. We can just remove one creature from the ecosystem everything to me fine.


What would happen if we remove just the mosquitoes though?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disney was negligent.

Every family that witnessed the tragedy will sue. Disney will quickly settle, paying through the nose and securing no disclosure agreements to prevent interviews, and signs will be posted all over the property (to shift risk).


I'm sure they will get money but Disney wasn't negligent. Nature happens. An alligator, indigenous to fresh water in Florida and animals who feed at night, got into a pond on Disney property. Shit happens. It's tragic but it's the first time it's ever happened in this park that serves millions of visitors so to say it was negligence isn't fair. It was an unfortunate accident.


+1. If I were on a jury for this case, knowing the facts currently available, I wouldn't award any money. Disney cannot control the alligator population on its property.

As for the posters claiming eyewitnesses will be able to sue, you clearly know nothing about the law.


I'm a lawyer, and I recognize that anybody can file a lawsuit.

Disney will settle and secure non-disclosure agreements to prevent people from being interviewed by media. Disney wants to kill this story quickly. Big settlements with witnesses, and no jury trial for the family...they'll get a ginormous settlement.
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Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.


Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."


9:30pm is dusk? I wouldn't be in the water at night by no swimming signs with any other the kids I work with. Who doesn't know about alligators and fresh water?


Sunset is at 8:24 PM in Orlando (today). The further south you get, the earlier it becomes dark.

Signage was up, the parents will not have a case against Disney. It doesn't matter if the child was in 1 inch of water or 2 feet of water. Signage will cover any legal recourse.
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Anonymous wrote:Geez all the back and forth- this baby was two years old. Can you even imagine the terror and trauma? Imagine being his mom or dad witnessing such a thing happening to to their little boy and completely unable to stop it?

If that happened to my precious boy (my only child) I would be done and looking for an exit strategy.


It's a reason some parents choose to have two. That sounds cold, but it's true.

+1 Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.


Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."


9:30pm is dusk? I wouldn't be in the water at night by no swimming signs with any other the kids I work with. Who doesn't know about alligators and fresh water?


Sunset is at 8:24 PM in Orlando (today). The further south you get, the earlier it becomes dark.

Signage was up, the parents will not have a case against Disney. It doesn't matter if the child was in 1 inch of water or 2 feet of water. Signage will cover any legal recourse.


I have a feeling you may not be a very good lawyer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How is Disney negligent if there are signs that say not to go into the water? I'm serious.



Holding an outdoor movie near the lake:

Assuming the responsibility for removing gators from Bay Lake and missing this one;

Failure to post signs that explain how dangerous gators are (the family is from Nebraska)

Failure to train the lifeguard on how to wrangle alligators
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I bet disney takes precautions to keep animal kingdom and the safari lodge free of gators to protect the animals. Too bad they don't protect the baby humans.


Because that is the mom/dad's job.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is Disney negligent if there are signs that say not to go into the water? I'm serious.



Holding an outdoor movie near the lake:

Assuming the responsibility for removing gators from Bay Lake and missing this one;

Failure to post signs that explain how dangerous gators are (the family is from Nebraska)

Failure to train the lifeguard on how to wrangle alligators


No lifeguard is going "wrangle" an alligator. What crazy alternative universe do some of you live in?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.


Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."


9:30pm is dusk? I wouldn't be in the water at night by no swimming signs with any other the kids I work with. Who doesn't know about alligators and fresh water?


Sunset is at 8:24 PM in Orlando (today). The further south you get, the earlier it becomes dark.

Signage was up, the parents will not have a case against Disney. It doesn't matter if the child was in 1 inch of water or 2 feet of water. Signage will cover any legal recourse.


Wrong. There were no signs about alligators and the area was not roped off. This was a resort event on the beach and there was a life guard and employees present. Disney is going to pay serious bank to this family and witnesses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.


Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."

Plus 1,000,000,000,000++++ HAVE SOME COMPASSION !!!!!!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The skeptic (and prosecutor) in me wonders if anyone actually saw the child on the beach other than the parents. The whole story is strange. Why is the four year old in the play pen while the baby is allowed to wander alone in the water in the darK?

Otherwisee, it is just a horrible tragedy. Disney has been at that location for more than 40 years. If they were truly negligent, this would not be the first incident of this kind.


A Disney lifeguard tried to intervene. There was an outdoor movie going on
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is Disney negligent if there are signs that say not to go into the water? I'm serious.



Holding an outdoor movie near the lake:

Assuming the responsibility for removing gators from Bay Lake and missing this one;

Failure to post signs that explain how dangerous gators are (the family is from Nebraska)

Failure to train the lifeguard on how to wrangle alligators

Um, this isn't Crocodile Dundee the movie. No lifeguard is going to risk getting eaten in a battle with a gator. They are much more powerful in water than humans.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.


Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."

Plus 1,000,000,000,000++++ HAVE SOME COMPASSION !!!!!!!!


Did you mean to post this as Ebay feedback?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.


Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."


9:30pm is dusk? I wouldn't be in the water at night by no swimming signs with any other the kids I work with. Who doesn't know about alligators and fresh water?


Sunset is at 8:24 PM in Orlando (today). The further south you get, the earlier it becomes dark.

Signage was up, the parents will not have a case against Disney. It doesn't matter if the child was in 1 inch of water or 2 feet of water. Signage will cover any legal recourse.


Wrong. There were no signs about alligators and the area was not roped off. This was a resort event on the beach and there was a life guard and employees present. Disney is going to pay serious bank to this family and witnesses.


Really?
http://wtop.com/national/2016/06/deputies-gator-drags-toddler-into-water-near-disney-resort/

Disney spokeswoman Jacquee Wahaler said everyone at the resort was devastated by what happened and Disney is helping the family.

When asked if Disney was aware of alligators on the property, Wahaler advised there were signs that said “no swimming.”

Williamson brushed aside reporters’ questions about the odds of rescuing the child at this point. “Right now, hopefully, we’re searching for a little boy to bring the family some comfort,” he said.

Demings said there had been no other recent reports of similar alligator attacks on the lake.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is Disney negligent if there are signs that say not to go into the water? I'm serious.



Holding an outdoor movie near the lake:

Assuming the responsibility for removing gators from Bay Lake and missing this one;

Failure to post signs that explain how dangerous gators are (the family is from Nebraska)

Failure to train the lifeguard on how to wrangle alligators


No lifeguard is going "wrangle" an alligator. What crazy alternative universe do some of you live in?


LOL seriously. One does not simply get trained to "wrangle" a prehistoric predator that can eat humans. That is not in a lifeguard's job description anywhere on this planet.
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