Which would lose their Deal feed first: Shepherd, Bancroft, or Lafayette?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That diversity lawsuit card is a BS red herring, in my view. It's based on the lawsuits from the 1960s and 1970s which dealt with actual disparate treatment among students and schools. None of it said Shepherd Park is required to be zoned forever to Deal Middle. That's just an item one SP poster likes to trot out to threaten a civil rights lawsuit if SP is ever re-zoned away from Deal. It's part of SP's impressive ability to wield political muscle to gain it benefits over other neighborhoods.

If you look at it all of NW has been exercising its political muscle over SW, SE, and NE for the longest. You all are the same.

SP is part of NW. Not sure what you're talking about.

I am grouping SP into the category with the other schools that happen to be in Ward 3. There is a sense of entitlement amongst the parents.

Hear hear!

People who feel entitled to send their kids to someone else's neighborhood are, well, entitled.

What if instead they fixed their own neighborhood schools?

In a city like DC, which has already invested hundreds of millions of dollars in the complete rebuilding/ renovation of a good number of failing schools, that should be the obvious starting point for accusatory whiners like previous PP.

Yes, it's true, all D.C.'s schools need is a handful of whiny parents to step in "fix their own neighborhood schools," and all the various effects of income inequality, generational poverty, low levels of parental education, parents who don't speak English, etc., will be wiped away, eradicating the differences in quality between Deal (with the highest median income of any middle school in the city) and other middle schools.

Gentrification (not whining) is your friend.

That's displacing the problem, not solving it. If that's your goal, then you just suck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just fyi your numbers for Shepherd, Heart, and Bancroft are off. Shepherd currently has 362 children this year and Hearst 318.

Yes, I was using enrollment numbers from 2014-15, because they were easier to pull. I'm sure all these schools have slightly higher numbers in the 2015-16 audited enrollment files.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Except there ARE no middle schools in Ward 4. At all.

That's overdramatic. There are education campuses now, and MacFarland ramping up over the next two years. It's not like you have zero options.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That diversity lawsuit card is a BS red herring, in my view. It's based on the lawsuits from the 1960s and 1970s which dealt with actual disparate treatment among students and schools. None of it said Shepherd Park is required to be zoned forever to Deal Middle. That's just an item one SP poster likes to trot out to threaten a civil rights lawsuit if SP is ever re-zoned away from Deal. It's part of SP's impressive ability to wield political muscle to gain it benefits over other neighborhoods.

If you look at it all of NW has been exercising its political muscle over SW, SE, and NE for the longest. You all are the same.

SP is part of NW. Not sure what you're talking about.

I am grouping SP into the category with the other schools that happen to be in Ward 3. There is a sense of entitlement amongst the parents.

Hear hear!

People who feel entitled to send their kids to someone else's neighborhood are, well, entitled.

What if instead they fixed their own neighborhood schools?

In a city like DC, which has already invested hundreds of millions of dollars in the complete rebuilding/ renovation of a good number of failing schools, that should be the obvious starting point for accusatory whiners like previous PP.

Yes, it's true, all D.C.'s schools need is a handful of whiny parents to step in "fix their own neighborhood schools," and all the various effects of income inequality, generational poverty, low levels of parental education, parents who don't speak English, etc., will be wiped away, eradicating the differences in quality between Deal (with the highest median income of any middle school in the city) and other middle schools.

Gentrification (not whining) is your friend.

That's displacing the problem, not solving it. If that's your goal, then you just suck.

I don't think you understand how economic development happens. Perhaps it's your lack of education that sucks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That diversity lawsuit card is a BS red herring, in my view. It's based on the lawsuits from the 1960s and 1970s which dealt with actual disparate treatment among students and schools. None of it said Shepherd Park is required to be zoned forever to Deal Middle. That's just an item one SP poster likes to trot out to threaten a civil rights lawsuit if SP is ever re-zoned away from Deal. It's part of SP's impressive ability to wield political muscle to gain it benefits over other neighborhoods.

If you look at it all of NW has been exercising its political muscle over SW, SE, and NE for the longest. You all are the same.

SP is part of NW. Not sure what you're talking about.

I am grouping SP into the category with the other schools that happen to be in Ward 3. There is a sense of entitlement amongst the parents.

Hear hear!

People who feel entitled to send their kids to someone else's neighborhood are, well, entitled.

What if instead they fixed their own neighborhood schools?

In a city like DC, which has already invested hundreds of millions of dollars in the complete rebuilding/ renovation of a good number of failing schools, that should be the obvious starting point for accusatory whiners like previous PP.

Yes, it's true, all D.C.'s schools need is a handful of whiny parents to step in "fix their own neighborhood schools," and all the various effects of income inequality, generational poverty, low levels of parental education, parents who don't speak English, etc., will be wiped away, eradicating the differences in quality between Deal (with the highest median income of any middle school in the city) and other middle schools.

Gentrification (not whining) is your friend.

That's displacing the problem, not solving it. If that's your goal, then you just suck.

I don't think you understand how economic development happens. Perhaps it's your lack of education that sucks.

I've been in the midst of it for the past 15 years. There are always some people who think that gentrification makes everything all better. It doesn't. Unless your problem statement is that "there are too many poors here". In which case, I stand by my point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Except there ARE no middle schools in Ward 4. At all.

That's overdramatic. There are education campuses now, and MacFarland ramping up over the next two years. It's not like you have zero options.

Takoma EC serves grades 5-8, and it's just 1 mile away from Shepherd Elementary, a mere two blocks from the border of Shepherd Park. Brightwood EC is 2 miles due south.

According to DCPS website, there are 7 different education campuses in Ward 4 that serve middle school students. Seems Ward 4 has no lack of school options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Except there ARE no middle schools in Ward 4. At all.

That's overdramatic. There are education campuses now, and MacFarland ramping up over the next two years. It's not like you have zero options.

Takoma EC serves grades 5-8, and it's just 1 mile away from Shepherd Elementary, a mere two blocks from the border of Shepherd Park. Brightwood EC is 2 miles due south.

According to DCPS website, there are 7 different education campuses in Ward 4 that serve middle school students. Seems Ward 4 has no lack of school options.

A PK-3 to 8 is a school but not a stand alone middle school. DCPS is moving everyone to the 6-8 model but is taking forever getting this done in Ward 4 (probably won't be done by the time today's PK3ers are in 6th). MacFarland in the southern-most part of the ward will open next year but only for students from DCPS dual language programs. And none of the upper Ward 4 schools will have rights to it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That diversity lawsuit card is a BS red herring, in my view. It's based on the lawsuits from the 1960s and 1970s which dealt with actual disparate treatment among students and schools. None of it said Shepherd Park is required to be zoned forever to Deal Middle. That's just an item one SP poster likes to trot out to threaten a civil rights lawsuit if SP is ever re-zoned away from Deal. It's part of SP's impressive ability to wield political muscle to gain it benefits over other neighborhoods.

If you look at it all of NW has been exercising its political muscle over SW, SE, and NE for the longest. You all are the same.

SP is part of NW. Not sure what you're talking about.

I am grouping SP into the category with the other schools that happen to be in Ward 3. There is a sense of entitlement amongst the parents.

Hear hear!

People who feel entitled to send their kids to someone else's neighborhood are, well, entitled.

What if instead they fixed their own neighborhood schools?

In a city like DC, which has already invested hundreds of millions of dollars in the complete rebuilding/ renovation of a good number of failing schools, that should be the obvious starting point for accusatory whiners like previous PP.

Yes, it's true, all D.C.'s schools need is a handful of whiny parents to step in "fix their own neighborhood schools," and all the various effects of income inequality, generational poverty, low levels of parental education, parents who don't speak English, etc., will be wiped away, eradicating the differences in quality between Deal (with the highest median income of any middle school in the city) and other middle schools.

Gentrification (not whining) is your friend.

That's displacing the problem, not solving it. If that's your goal, then you just suck.

I don't think you understand how economic development happens. Perhaps it's your lack of education that sucks.

I've been in the midst of it for the past 15 years. There are always some people who think that gentrification makes everything all better. It doesn't. Unless your problem statement is that "there are too many poors here". In which case, I stand by my point.

Obvious straw man. You don't need to believe that "gentrification makes everything all better" to believe that gentrification tends to make some things better -- for example schools.

Anyway, this is not linked to the thread's main theme, so I'll stop posting about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Except there ARE no middle schools in Ward 4. At all.

That's overdramatic. There are education campuses now, and MacFarland ramping up over the next two years. It's not like you have zero options.

Takoma EC serves grades 5-8, and it's just 1 mile away from Shepherd Elementary, a mere two blocks from the border of Shepherd Park. Brightwood EC is 2 miles due south.

According to DCPS website, there are 7 different education campuses in Ward 4 that serve middle school students. Seems Ward 4 has no lack of school options.

A PK-3 to 8 is a school but not a stand alone middle school. DCPS is moving everyone to the 6-8 model but is taking forever getting this done in Ward 4 (probably won't be done by the time today's PK3ers are in 6th). MacFarland in the southern-most part of the ward will open next year but only for students from DCPS dual language programs. And none of the upper Ward 4 schools will have rights to it.

Once MacFarland dual language MS opens, which HS will it feed into?

I'm pretty confused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Except there ARE no middle schools in Ward 4. At all.

That's overdramatic. There are education campuses now, and MacFarland ramping up over the next two years. It's not like you have zero options.

Takoma EC serves grades 5-8, and it's just 1 mile away from Shepherd Elementary, a mere two blocks from the border of Shepherd Park. Brightwood EC is 2 miles due south.

According to DCPS website, there are 7 different education campuses in Ward 4 that serve middle school students. Seems Ward 4 has no lack of school options.

A PK-3 to 8 is a school but not a stand alone middle school. DCPS is moving everyone to the 6-8 model but is taking forever getting this done in Ward 4 (probably won't be done by the time today's PK3ers are in 6th). MacFarland in the southern-most part of the ward will open next year but only for students from DCPS dual language programs. And none of the upper Ward 4 schools will have rights to it.

Once MacFarland dual language MS opens, which HS will it feed into?

I'm pretty confused.

Roosevelt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Except there ARE no middle schools in Ward 4. At all.

That's overdramatic. There are education campuses now, and MacFarland ramping up over the next two years. It's not like you have zero options.

Takoma EC serves grades 5-8, and it's just 1 mile away from Shepherd Elementary, a mere two blocks from the border of Shepherd Park. Brightwood EC is 2 miles due south.

According to DCPS website, there are 7 different education campuses in Ward 4 that serve middle school students. Seems Ward 4 has no lack of school options.

A PK-3 to 8 is a school but not a stand alone middle school. DCPS is moving everyone to the 6-8 model but is taking forever getting this done in Ward 4 (probably won't be done by the time today's PK3ers are in 6th). MacFarland in the southern-most part of the ward will open next year but only for students from DCPS dual language programs. And none of the upper Ward 4 schools will have rights to it.

Once MacFarland dual language MS opens, which HS will it feed into?

I'm pretty confused.

MacFarland feeds to Roosevelt.

Also, MacFarland is only dual-language for the next two years until the building is renovated. Then it will be both the dual-language and general middle school for the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Except there ARE no middle schools in Ward 4. At all.

That's overdramatic. There are education campuses now, and MacFarland ramping up over the next two years. It's not like you have zero options.

Takoma EC serves grades 5-8, and it's just 1 mile away from Shepherd Elementary, a mere two blocks from the border of Shepherd Park. Brightwood EC is 2 miles due south.

According to DCPS website, there are 7 different education campuses in Ward 4 that serve middle school students. Seems Ward 4 has no lack of school options.

A PK-3 to 8 is a school but not a stand alone middle school. DCPS is moving everyone to the 6-8 model but is taking forever getting this done in Ward 4 (probably won't be done by the time today's PK3ers are in 6th). MacFarland in the southern-most part of the ward will open next year but only for students from DCPS dual language programs. And none of the upper Ward 4 schools will have rights to it.

Once MacFarland dual language MS opens, which HS will it feed into?

I'm pretty confused.

Roosevelt.

And Roosevelt will be bilingual too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Except there ARE no middle schools in Ward 4. At all.

That's overdramatic. There are education campuses now, and MacFarland ramping up over the next two years. It's not like you have zero options.

Takoma EC serves grades 5-8, and it's just 1 mile away from Shepherd Elementary, a mere two blocks from the border of Shepherd Park. Brightwood EC is 2 miles due south.

According to DCPS website, there are 7 different education campuses in Ward 4 that serve middle school students. Seems Ward 4 has no lack of school options.

A PK-3 to 8 is a school but not a stand alone middle school. DCPS is moving everyone to the 6-8 model but is taking forever getting this done in Ward 4 (probably won't be done by the time today's PK3ers are in 6th). MacFarland in the southern-most part of the ward will open next year but only for students from DCPS dual language programs. And none of the upper Ward 4 schools will have rights to it.

Once MacFarland dual language MS opens, which HS will it feed into?

I'm pretty confused.

Roosevelt.

And Roosevelt will be bilingual too?

I don't think that's been decided. It's supposed to have an 'international focus.' No clue what that means.

[Anonymous]

Roosevelt will have a dual language track. That has been decided.

[Anonymous]

Takoma, Whittier and Brightwood will eventually feed to a brand new "North middle school" that would feed to Coolidge.

No timeline whatsoever for this, but Coolidge is getting some renovations, despite having only about 300 students (and capacity for 4 times that many).