Should AAP demographics represent FCPS as a whole

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And, again, I ask why not have 3 tracks available in 3rd onward: Gen Ed, Honors (parent referrals) and AAP (for those who qualify). Why is this not status quot? Because, the lowest performers will be in GE, and the schools want to boost the lowest common denominator at the cost of the those who would fare well in honors (if not admitted into AAP).

SO, again, the hard-working kid who would benefit from honors in 3rd grade, is held back to benefit a few at the bottom. Until honors is opened in 3rd grade, parents of motivated kids will continue to fight and appeal to get the best education for their offspring.

But what about the children who read chapter books as they enter Kindergarten and do multiplication in 1st grade? I think honors level should start in K.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm Mexican. I came to the US legally when I was 14. My ESL (we all speak English but we only speak Spanish at home) child did not get into the pool last year. NNAT and CogAT scores were in the teens. Not even close to 132. We parent referred. My husband and I are both attorneys. We're upper middle class, even if I do get confused for the help by white people on a regular basis. Good old Fairfax County. Anyway, had a WISC done. My daughter did very well. We submitted it in the parental referral. She got in on the first round, no thanks to the GBRS score. Pretty sure the teacher thought she was just some average non-impressive hispanic kid. Thank goodness we could afford the WISC. She also had good work samples and recommendations. She is thriving at the center. The AAP program would not have included my daughter without the WISC score. I'm sure there are many like her and some in here would say she is not cut out for AAP due to her NNAT and CogAT scores but her WISC said otherwise she was in the top 99.5%. Did she have a bad day, twice? Was the test culturally bias? Whatever the case, it did not see her as AAP material and now look at her. So I could care less how she gets there, if people think she belongs there. I care that she is there and doing well.

+ 1

Black mom here. I can relate. Luckily for us we had a black teacher. GBRS was high but we still needed the WISC. NNAT and CogAT scores were not close to pool. WISC was 147. In on first round. Others would see the scores and think black son wasn't AAP material. Black kids just aren't smart enough, blah blah blah. Had we been poor, we'd be screwed.

Actually, from what I understand there is a high correlation between cogat/naglieri scores and iq. Most parents who pay for the WISC find that the scores still aren't high enough and give up. You're just more likely to hear about the relatively few instances where there is a large discrepancy between the two tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You've missed the entire point, which is that AAP is not a gifted program. The curriculum is simply advanced by one year - something most kids could certainly do if given the opportunity. PP even suggested starting this in the 1st grade, so that ALL kids are ahead.

Certainly, not all kids are going to reach the same heights. But that goes for kids within AAP as well. Some kids are going to excel above and beyond any others - and that has nothing to do with being in AAP.

I can tell your mind is made up. But for anyone else listening, the AAP curriculum is not simply the same curriculum advanced by one year. At least not from our experience. If that's all there was to it, there would not be so many people howling about not being part of it. This is just the kind of misinformed belief one would expect to follow the constant hater drumbeat that AAP is "not a gifted program."

Well, from our experience, this is exactly what AAP is. The curriculum was no more challenging than that of the next grade up. I know that AAP parents love to tell themselves, their kids, and anyone who will listen that AAP is a gifted program, but it ceased being that over a decade ago when FCPS decided to include far more kids than they used to. Nothing wrong with an advanced curriculum, but it's very misleading to call it a "gifted" curriculum. Because it's simply advanced, many of us are arguing that it should be open to any child capable of doing the work. No need for a faux-gifted label in the first place.

Well then what the heck meets your definition of a "Gifted Program"? I don't live in Fairfax County, but from what I've read the AAP program blows doors on any gifted programs I've heard of anywhere. My 4th grade daughter's gifted program consists of her being bused to another school one day a week for enrichment activities. This is typical of every school district I've heard of except Fairfax County. These activities are great, but the rest of the time she is still
learning the exact same curriculum and doing the exact same assignments as everyone else. I would much rather trade her one day a week of enrichment activities for a full time program where she is taught all academic subject a grade level up.

[Anonymous]

Yeah so someone needs to do a longterm study on the actual benefits of AAP

What is the end goal here. Paying for a couple fewer credits in college lol

ON tracking in general academic studies are split on when is the best time to start and what the actual benefits are

Most people agree that by middle school you should be separating out children for at least part of the day

At the same time there are real benefits for people at the bottom middle and top if you don't separate out students (Google it)

Of course this requires a teacher who actually knows what they are doing, and can teach concepts at multiple levels

From all the literature I have seen tracking should occur for math and reading from an early age

but outside of these subjects its best for at least the elementary level to have kids together for other subjects

And finally again, what is the real point of AAP. Sorry kid you aren't going to Harvard working at McKenzie because you didn't have AAP in elementary school lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You've missed the entire point, which is that AAP is not a gifted program. The curriculum is simply advanced by one year - something most kids could certainly do if given the opportunity. PP even suggested starting this in the 1st grade, so that ALL kids are ahead.

Certainly, not all kids are going to reach the same heights. But that goes for kids within AAP as well. Some kids are going to excel above and beyond any others - and that has nothing to do with being in AAP.

I can tell your mind is made up. But for anyone else listening, the AAP curriculum is not simply the same curriculum advanced by one year. At least not from our experience. If that's all there was to it, there would not be so many people howling about not being part of it. This is just the kind of misinformed belief one would expect to follow the constant hater drumbeat that AAP is "not a gifted program."

Well, from our experience, this is exactly what AAP is. The curriculum was no more challenging than that of the next grade up. I know that AAP parents love to tell themselves, their kids, and anyone who will listen that AAP is a gifted program, but it ceased being that over a decade ago when FCPS decided to include far more kids than they used to. Nothing wrong with an advanced curriculum, but it's very misleading to call it a "gifted" curriculum. Because it's simply advanced, many of us are arguing that it should be open to any child capable of doing the work. No need for a faux-gifted label in the first place.

Well then what the heck meets your definition of a "Gifted Program"? I don't live in Fairfax County, but from what I've read the AAP program blows doors on any gifted programs I've heard of anywhere. My 4th grade daughter's gifted program consists of her being bused to another school one day a week for enrichment activities. This is typical of every school district I've heard of except Fairfax County. These activities are great, but the rest of the time she is still
learning the exact same curriculum and doing the exact same assignments as everyone else. I would much rather trade her one day a week of enrichment activities for a full time program where she is taught all academic subject a grade level up.

Your DD is not in a gifted program; what she receives is advanced academic "pull out" services. I think what people are confusing is a "gifted child" with the AAP program. Yes, there are many gifted children in the AAP program; however, many kids in that program are capable of doing way more challenging academics than what AAP provides. There in lies the rub...the AAP curriculum is just slightly advanced; however, the testing to get in is so over-the-top compared to the actual benefit of the actual program for most gifted kids. What parents are saying is that don't say AAP is a gifted program when it is not...be honest and say what it actually is an advanced academic program (AAP)...and for those parents who have gifted kids that actually score off the chart...you would be well served to actually find resources outside the FCPS to address your kids gifted needs. Otherwise, admission to AAP should be parent referral...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You've missed the entire point, which is that AAP is not a gifted program. The curriculum is simply advanced by one year - something most kids could certainly do if given the opportunity. PP even suggested starting this in the 1st grade, so that ALL kids are ahead.

Certainly, not all kids are going to reach the same heights. But that goes for kids within AAP as well. Some kids are going to excel above and beyond any others - and that has nothing to do with being in AAP.

I can tell your mind is made up. But for anyone else listening, the AAP curriculum is not simply the same curriculum advanced by one year. At least not from our experience. If that's all there was to it, there would not be so many people howling about not being part of it. This is just the kind of misinformed belief one would expect to follow the constant hater drumbeat that AAP is "not a gifted program."

Well, from our experience, this is exactly what AAP is. The curriculum was no more challenging than that of the next grade up. I know that AAP parents love to tell themselves, their kids, and anyone who will listen that AAP is a gifted program, but it ceased being that over a decade ago when FCPS decided to include far more kids than they used to. Nothing wrong with an advanced curriculum, but it's very misleading to call it a "gifted" curriculum. Because it's simply advanced, many of us are arguing that it should be open to any child capable of doing the work. No need for a faux-gifted label in the first place.

Well then what the heck meets your definition of a "Gifted Program"? I don't live in Fairfax County, but from what I've read the AAP program blows doors on any gifted programs I've heard of anywhere. My 4th grade daughter's gifted program consists of her being bused to another school one day a week for enrichment activities. This is typical of every school district I've heard of except Fairfax County. These activities are great, but the rest of the time she is still
learning the exact same curriculum and doing the exact same assignments as everyone else. I would much rather trade her one day a week of enrichment activities for a full time program where she is taught all academic subject a grade level up.

Your DD is not in a gifted program; what she receives is advanced academic "pull out" services. I think what people are confusing is a "gifted child" with the AAP program. Yes, there are many gifted children in the AAP program; however, many kids in that program are capable of doing way more challenging academics than what AAP provides. There in lies the rub...the AAP curriculum is just slightly advanced; however, the testing to get in is so over-the-top compared to the actual benefit of the actual program for most gifted kids. So, don't say AAP is a gifted program when it is not...be honest and say what it actually is an advanced academic program (AAP)...and for those parents who have gifted kids that actually score off the chart...you would be well served to actually find resources outside the FCPS to address your kids gifted needs. Otherwise, admission to AAP should be parent referral...

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah so someone needs to do a longterm study on the actual benefits of AAP

What is the end goal here. Paying for a couple fewer credits in college lol

ON tracking in general academic studies are split on when is the best time to start and what the actual benefits are

Most people agree that by middle school you should be separating out children for at least part of the day

At the same time there are real benefits for people at the bottom middle and top if you don't separate out students (Google it)

Of course this requires a teacher who actually knows what they are doing, and can teach concepts at multiple levels

From all the literature I have seen tracking should occur for math and reading from an early age

but outside of these subjects its best for at least the elementary level to have kids together for other subjects

And finally again, what is the real point of AAP. Sorry kid you aren't going to Harvard working at McKenzie because you didn't have AAP in elementary school lol.

There is very little academic benefit if any for the kids at the top when you throw everyone together in one class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You've missed the entire point, which is that AAP is not a gifted program. The curriculum is simply advanced by one year - something most kids could certainly do if given the opportunity. PP even suggested starting this in the 1st grade, so that ALL kids are ahead.

Certainly, not all kids are going to reach the same heights. But that goes for kids within AAP as well. Some kids are going to excel above and beyond any others - and that has nothing to do with being in AAP.

I can tell your mind is made up. But for anyone else listening, the AAP curriculum is not simply the same curriculum advanced by one year. At least not from our experience. If that's all there was to it, there would not be so many people howling about not being part of it. This is just the kind of misinformed belief one would expect to follow the constant hater drumbeat that AAP is "not a gifted program."

Well, from our experience, this is exactly what AAP is. The curriculum was no more challenging than that of the next grade up. I know that AAP parents love to tell themselves, their kids, and anyone who will listen that AAP is a gifted program, but it ceased being that over a decade ago when FCPS decided to include far more kids than they used to. Nothing wrong with an advanced curriculum, but it's very misleading to call it a "gifted" curriculum. Because it's simply advanced, many of us are arguing that it should be open to any child capable of doing the work. No need for a faux-gifted label in the first place.

Well then what the heck meets your definition of a "Gifted Program"? I don't live in Fairfax County, but from what I've read the AAP program blows doors on any gifted programs I've heard of anywhere. My 4th grade daughter's gifted program consists of her being bused to another school one day a week for enrichment activities. This is typical of every school district I've heard of except Fairfax County. These activities are great, but the rest of the time she is still
learning the exact same curriculum and doing the exact same assignments as everyone else. I would much rather trade her one day a week of enrichment activities for a full time program where she is taught all academic subject a grade level up.

Your DD is not in a gifted program; what she receives is advanced academic "pull out" services. I think what people are confusing is a "gifted child" with the AAP program. Yes, there are many gifted children in the AAP program; however, many kids in that program are capable of doing way more challenging academics than what AAP provides. There in lies the rub...the AAP curriculum is just slightly advanced; however, the testing to get in is so over-the-top compared to the actual benefit of the actual program for most gifted kids. What parents are saying is that don't say AAP is a gifted program when it is not...be honest and say what it actually is an advanced academic program (AAP)...and for those parents who have gifted kids that actually score off the chart...you would be well served to actually find resources outside the FCPS to address your kids gifted needs. Otherwise, admission to AAP should be parent referral...

We don't live in Fairfax County. Her pull out program is what the gifted program consists of in our area. My point s that the Fairfax County AAP program is a far more comprehensive program than what I have heard of anywhere else. I'm curious as to what the poster who insists that AAP is not a real gifted program, thinks a Gifted program should be?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm Mexican. I came to the US legally when I was 14. My ESL (we all speak English but we only speak Spanish at home) child did not get into the pool last year. NNAT and CogAT scores were in the teens. Not even close to 132. We parent referred. My husband and I are both attorneys. We're upper middle class, even if I do get confused for the help by white people on a regular basis. Good old Fairfax County. Anyway, had a WISC done. My daughter did very well. We submitted it in the parental referral. She got in on the first round, no thanks to the GBRS score. Pretty sure the teacher thought she was just some average non-impressive hispanic kid. Thank goodness we could afford the WISC. She also had good work samples and recommendations. She is thriving at the center. The AAP program would not have included my daughter without the WISC score. I'm sure there are many like her and some in here would say she is not cut out for AAP due to her NNAT and CogAT scores but her WISC said otherwise she was in the top 99.5%. Did she have a bad day, twice? Was the test culturally bias? Whatever the case, it did not see her as AAP material and now look at her. So I could care less how she gets there, if people think she belongs there. I care that she is there and doing well.

Your post was persuasive as to why parents should secure a WISC if possible, but your bolded statement is offensive. Talk about biases! Don't you think every parent whose kid gets a low GBRS thinks the same sentiment, but sometimes minusing the "Hispanic" reference and sometimes inserting a gender or other race or cultural group? The truth is that lots of white parents are upset with the GBRS and the truth is also that perhaps your child deserved the GBRS given, especially given her NNAT and CogAT results (since they were in line with those results.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You've missed the entire point, which is that AAP is not a gifted program. The curriculum is simply advanced by one year - something most kids could certainly do if given the opportunity. PP even suggested starting this in the 1st grade, so that ALL kids are ahead.

Certainly, not all kids are going to reach the same heights. But that goes for kids within AAP as well. Some kids are going to excel above and beyond any others - and that has nothing to do with being in AAP.

I can tell your mind is made up. But for anyone else listening, the AAP curriculum is not simply the same curriculum advanced by one year. At least not from our experience. If that's all there was to it, there would not be so many people howling about not being part of it. This is just the kind of misinformed belief one would expect to follow the constant hater drumbeat that AAP is "not a gifted program."

Well, from our experience, this is exactly what AAP is. The curriculum was no more challenging than that of the next grade up. I know that AAP parents love to tell themselves, their kids, and anyone who will listen that AAP is a gifted program, but it ceased being that over a decade ago when FCPS decided to include far more kids than they used to. Nothing wrong with an advanced curriculum, but it's very misleading to call it a "gifted" curriculum. Because it's simply advanced, many of us are arguing that it should be open to any child capable of doing the work. No need for a faux-gifted label in the first place.

Well then what the heck meets your definition of a "Gifted Program"? I don't live in Fairfax County, but from what I've read the AAP program blows doors on any gifted programs I've heard of anywhere. My 4th grade daughter's gifted program consists of her being bused to another school one day a week for enrichment activities. This is typical of every school district I've heard of except Fairfax County. These activities are great, but the rest of the time she is still
learning the exact same curriculum and doing the exact same assignments as everyone else. I would much rather trade her one day a week of enrichment activities for a full time program where she is taught all academic subject a grade level up.

Your DD is not in a gifted program; what she receives is advanced academic "pull out" services. I think what people are confusing is a "gifted child" with the AAP program. Yes, there are many gifted children in the AAP program; however, many kids in that program are capable of doing way more challenging academics than what AAP provides. There in lies the rub...the AAP curriculum is just slightly advanced; however, the testing to get in is so over-the-top compared to the actual benefit of the actual program for most gifted kids. What parents are saying is that don't say AAP is a gifted program when it is not...be honest and say what it actually is an advanced academic program (AAP)...and for those parents who have gifted kids that actually score off the chart...you would be well served to actually find resources outside the FCPS to address your kids gifted needs. Otherwise, admission to AAP should be parent referral...

We don't live in Fairfax County. Her pull out program is what the gifted program consists of in our area. My point s that the Fairfax County AAP program is a far more comprehensive program than what I have heard of anywhere else. I'm curious as to what the poster who insists that AAP is not a real gifted program, thinks a Gifted program should be?

Take a look at the Schilling School for Gifted Children. The Lower School curriculum 1.5 - 2 years above grade level with individualized learning options. The program meets the kids where they are and allows them to go as far above grade level as appropriate. A program of this kind would be unsupportable by a public school system. So, the compromise is AAP. FCPS made a financial decision at some point to go with the AAP model...nothing wrong with that but they didn't adjust the paradigm that AAP could be afforded to an even wider group of students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah so someone needs to do a longterm study on the actual benefits of AAP

What is the end goal here. Paying for a couple fewer credits in college lol

ON tracking in general academic studies are split on when is the best time to start and what the actual benefits are

Most people agree that by middle school you should be separating out children for at least part of the day

At the same time there are real benefits for people at the bottom middle and top if you don't separate out students (Google it)

Of course this requires a teacher who actually knows what they are doing, and can teach concepts at multiple levels

From all the literature I have seen tracking should occur for math and reading from an early age

but outside of these subjects its best for at least the elementary level to have kids together for other subjects

And finally again, what is the real point of AAP. Sorry kid you aren't going to Harvard working at McKenzie because you didn't have AAP in elementary school lol.

There is very little academic benefit if any for the kids at the top when you throw everyone together in one class.

A couple quick things off the top of my head

1. The biggest one. When you go out in the real world and have a job and you are one of the "top people" what does that entail usually.... management and what is that.... learning how to deal with people who are "lower than you" by helping them succeed and removing barriers.... humm sounds alot like skills someone could learn in a mixed classroom environment

2. True mastery occurs when you can teach concepts to someone else

3. Google there are some interesting studies out there on this

4. Have a great day

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah so someone needs to do a longterm study on the actual benefits of AAP

What is the end goal here. Paying for a couple fewer credits in college lol

ON tracking in general academic studies are split on when is the best time to start and what the actual benefits are

Most people agree that by middle school you should be separating out children for at least part of the day

At the same time there are real benefits for people at the bottom middle and top if you don't separate out students (Google it)

Of course this requires a teacher who actually knows what they are doing, and can teach concepts at multiple levels

From all the literature I have seen tracking should occur for math and reading from an early age

but outside of these subjects its best for at least the elementary level to have kids together for other subjects

And finally again, what is the real point of AAP. Sorry kid you aren't going to Harvard working at McKenzie because you didn't have AAP in elementary school lol.

There is very little academic benefit if any for the kids at the top when you throw everyone together in one class.

A couple quick things off the top of my head

1. The biggest one. When you go out in the real world and have a job and you are one of the "top people" what does that entail usually.... management and what is that.... learning how to deal with people who are "lower than you" by helping them succeed and removing barriers.... humm sounds alot like skills someone could learn in a mixed classroom environment

2. True mastery occurs when you can teach concepts to someone else

3. Google there are some interesting studies out there on this

4. Have a great day

Of the top my head:

1. Top colleges are usually filled with top students.

2. Google about mixing classes and the negative impact on top students. Very little, if any, benefit.

3. Children aren't paid to teach concepts to others their age; that's the teachers job and they are paid to do such.

4. Have an awesome day!

[Anonymous]

It is not the job of someone's elementary kid to serve as a teacher's assistant in the classroom. It is their job to be a student and to learn and it is the school's job to teach them.

Elementary school is not about students collaborating to produce group results or to meet some work quota. It is about the school sharing knowledge with students and pushing them to learn to tue best of their abilities. It is not about elementary kids supervising their classmates, carrying their classmates work load so a deadline is met or a project stays under budget, or managing team dynamics so they get the next promotion.

Students who are far above their classmates academically benefit far more from being in a class where the curriculum is at or above their level than in one where they have already mastered the curriculum and they are expected to serve as tutors for their classmates instead of being challenged themselves.

Having had a kid spend a year being used as a teacher's aide in early elememtary in another state, this incorrect opinion of your's is a hot button issue for me.

What you are stating is simply horseshit at the elementary level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You've missed the entire point, which is that AAP is not a gifted program. The curriculum is simply advanced by one year - something most kids could certainly do if given the opportunity. PP even suggested starting this in the 1st grade, so that ALL kids are ahead.

Certainly, not all kids are going to reach the same heights. But that goes for kids within AAP as well. Some kids are going to excel above and beyond any others - and that has nothing to do with being in AAP.

I can tell your mind is made up. But for anyone else listening, the AAP curriculum is not simply the same curriculum advanced by one year. At least not from our experience. If that's all there was to it, there would not be so many people howling about not being part of it. This is just the kind of misinformed belief one would expect to follow the constant hater drumbeat that AAP is "not a gifted program."

Well, from our experience, this is exactly what AAP is. The curriculum was no more challenging than that of the next grade up. I know that AAP parents love to tell themselves, their kids, and anyone who will listen that AAP is a gifted program, but it ceased being that over a decade ago when FCPS decided to include far more kids than they used to. Nothing wrong with an advanced curriculum, but it's very misleading to call it a "gifted" curriculum. Because it's simply advanced, many of us are arguing that it should be open to any child capable of doing the work. No need for a faux-gifted label in the first place.

Well then what the heck meets your definition of a "Gifted Program"? I don't live in Fairfax County, but from what I've read the AAP program blows doors on any gifted programs I've heard of anywhere. My 4th grade daughter's gifted program consists of her being bused to another school one day a week for enrichment activities. This is typical of every school district I've heard of except Fairfax County. These activities are great, but the rest of the time she is still
learning the exact same curriculum and doing the exact same assignments as everyone else. I would much rather trade her one day a week of enrichment activities for a full time program where she is taught all academic subject a grade level up.

Your DD is not in a gifted program; what she receives is advanced academic "pull out" services. I think what people are confusing is a "gifted child" with the AAP program. Yes, there are many gifted children in the AAP program; however, many kids in that program are capable of doing way more challenging academics than what AAP provides. There in lies the rub...the AAP curriculum is just slightly advanced; however, the testing to get in is so over-the-top compared to the actual benefit of the actual program for most gifted kids. What parents are saying is that don't say AAP is a gifted program when it is not...be honest and say what it actually is an advanced academic program (AAP)...and for those parents who have gifted kids that actually score off the chart...you would be well served to actually find resources outside the FCPS to address your kids gifted needs. Otherwise, admission to AAP should be parent referral...

We don't live in Fairfax County. Her pull out program is what the gifted program consists of in our area. My point s that the Fairfax County AAP program is a far more comprehensive program than what I have heard of anywhere else. I'm curious as to what the poster who insists that AAP is not a real gifted program, thinks a Gifted program should be?

Take a look at the Schilling School for Gifted Children. The Lower School curriculum 1.5 - 2 years above grade level with individualized learning options. The program meets the kids where they are and allows them to go as far above grade level as appropriate. A program of this kind would be unsupportable by a public school system. So, the compromise is AAP. FCPS made a financial decision at some point to go with the AAP model...nothing wrong with that but they didn't adjust the paradigm that AAP could be afforded to an even wider group of students.

But why single out AAP then? No public school district has a gifted program that is anywhere close to your example. By saying "AAP is not a real gifted program", the implication is that it is common for other school districts to offer "real" gifted programs. Fairfax County comes closer to this than any public school system I've seen.

[Anonymous]

ETA, it seems that your beef is more with gifted education in general and not AAP.