How much do you make and how much FA do you receive?

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Anonymous wrote:I just read this in the Q&A section of our schools website. It specifically addresses the notion that those families who are full pay are subsidizing the tuition of those on financial aid:

"As is the case in most independent schools, tuition income is simply not adequate to cover our operating expenses. This year the cost to educate each child is $5,050 more than the cost of actual tuition."

There is it in black and white. If you are full pay, your tuition dollars are NOT subsidizing the education of a child receiving FA.

Oh please. use your brain, once you find it.

Ha! You need to use your brain. By all means continue to believe what you want, but the reality is that it does not.

[Anonymous]

Please contact the schools you are interested in to discuss your eligibility for FA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read this in the Q&A section of our schools website. It specifically addresses the notion that those families who are full pay are subsidizing the tuition of those on financial aid:

"As is the case in most independent schools, tuition income is simply not adequate to cover our operating expenses. This year the cost to educate each child is $5,050 more than the cost of actual tuition."

There is it in black and white. If you are full pay, your tuition dollars are NOT subsidizing the education of a child receiving FA.

They account for financial aid into the entire budget then divide it let student, so yes financial aid IS accounted for in the budget.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just read this in the Q&A section of our schools website. It specifically addresses the notion that those families who are full pay are subsidizing the tuition of those on financial aid:

"As is the case in most independent schools, tuition income is simply not adequate to cover our operating expenses. This year the cost to educate each child is $5,050 more than the cost of actual tuition."

There is it in black and white. If you are full pay, your tuition dollars are NOT subsidizing the education of a child receiving FA.

Oh please. use your brain, once you find it.

Ha! You need to use your brain. By all means continue to believe what you want, but the reality is that it does not.

If I pay $20,000 towards the overall budget as full pay, and you pay $10,000 as a 50% FA, how is it I'm not subsiding you?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly pp. We have one kid with $150k combined income. Pay full freight.

I think a lot of people cheat to get FA

You cant cheat to get FA. I had to submit 2 years of tax returns with all schedules to provide proof of what we stated in our application. We received 57% FA from one school and 0% from another. HHI $189K family of 4 with 2 children in private already paying $28K a year. We can't afford $66K a year to send our 2 children to private.

+1. I'm amazed at this notion that people can "cheat" to get FA. My HHI is $187. We are a family of 4 with 2 children (1 in private and 1 in daycare). We had to provide 2 years of returns, copies of bills, detailed written statement explaining our financial need, etc. My application was TWENTY plus pages long. No way we would could afford $35K for one child while paying $15K for daycare for the youngest. We would like to think we have pretty bright kids who will thrive in an academically challenging environment that will expose them to a diverse group of people. That's not something they can receive at our local public school. The thing is we had no problem being fully open about our financial picture to the school. I personally think some of these people gripping about being full pay with less income should be applying for aid. It makes no sense to deny yourself simple things because you are struggling to be "full pay." It's as if there some added pride to say we are "full pay." What I am proud of is I found a way to provide my children a very good education without denying them vacations, decent clothes and shoes or extra curricular activities. Life is about balance. If you are sacrificing all of that to pay $25-$35K in tuition, then you have got it wrong about what it takes to raise a well balanced, happy, healthy and thriving child.

I see it differently -- you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live.

[Anonymous]

I see it differently -- you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live.

+1 I agree. No other way to spin it.

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I see it differently -- you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live.

+1 I agree. No other way to spin it.

And to expand on that you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live while simultaneously depriving truly needy children of the financial aid that could help their families escape the school-to-prison pipeline. But enjoy your vacation.

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Anonymous wrote:We are a family of four and make about $200,000 but we also support my aging mother. Any chance of any FA?

As others have commented, it depends on your total financial picture. We are a family of 4 with HHI of 220k and we are in our second year of receiving $10K in aid. Both of us have student loans in addition to helping my mother out each month with her rent.

In other words, school parents paying full freight are subsidizing your mother. Fascinating.

FYI: The financial aid application asks if families are supporting elderly parents. Its up to the school to give us aid based on our financial situation, not you and if you feel the school is not a good steward of your money, then send your kid elsewhere and be sure to ask at the open house how they distribute aid so that you are comfortable that no one is getting subsidized, but I suspect you won't have the balls to make such comments in public. I don't view it as subsidizing my mother at all, we presented our financial picture, they determined we can pay $50k out of pocket and we do.

OK. You don't see it that way. I do see it that way. Facts speak for themselves, like it or not.

I agree with you (new poster here). Having loans and having an elderly parent to support may mean you can't afford private. I agree that it's up to the school to decide, but I would not want to pay full freight because others are supporting parents or didn't aggressively pay down loans (as others may have to get to their current ability to pay full). Private is a luxury, plain and simple. Not everyone can afford luxuries (and we don't go private, by choice, but that's another conversation).

NO, IT IS NOT. SOME KIDS CANNOT MAKE IT THROUGH THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS - THE "FACTORY MODEL" OF EDUCATION. THEY GET LOST, OVERLOOKED, DEPRESSED, BORED, YOU NAME IT....THIS IS WHY PEOPLE ARE SO DESPERATE TO GET INTO GOOD PRIVATES. THANK GOD FOR FINANCIAL AID AND FOR THE SPIRIT OF GIVING, COMMUNITY AND GENORISITY THAT IS VALUED AT MOST INDEPENDENT SCHOOLS (APPARENTLY NOT YOURS, IT'S IN THE MINORITY).

If you cannot afford 40K, you go to a 10K school like the rest of us. If you kid is bored, you supplement at home. You deal with it or you get another job to pay for it. The only kids who truly may need it are SN kids and financial aide is rarely available to them. I would love to send my kid to a 40+ a year SN school but we can't so we are at a small private, who is great, but doesn't fully get my child's needs.

Where are these 10K schools? None that I see in Rockville, Kensington, Silver Spring, Bethesda, Potomac, or Upper NW. Not everyone who lives/works in these areas is going to commute outside them ....where are you finding 10K high schools in this area???

Avalon and Brookewood are 10k schools .

Yes, and they are conservative Catholic schools with quite mixed reports on DCUM - not a great fit for most. Name some more mainstream schools at $10k in this area. Even Catholic high schools are 18k +

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I see it differently -- you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live.

+1 I agree. No other way to spin it.

And to expand on that you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live while simultaneously depriving truly needy children of the financial aid that could help their families escape the school-to-prison pipeline. But enjoy your vacation.

What a weird comment. School to prison pipeline? Why don't you bring it up to the financial aid board?
My kid is a super star. They want us. Open a school in Kalkutta if you like but smart kids here have all doors open, including very good public school.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly pp. We have one kid with $150k combined income. Pay full freight.

I think a lot of people cheat to get FA

You cant cheat to get FA. I had to submit 2 years of tax returns with all schedules to provide proof of what we stated in our application. We received 57% FA from one school and 0% from another. HHI $189K family of 4 with 2 children in private already paying $28K a year. We can't afford $66K a year to send our 2 children to private.

+1. I'm amazed at this notion that people can "cheat" to get FA. My HHI is $187. We are a family of 4 with 2 children (1 in private and 1 in daycare). We had to provide 2 years of returns, copies of bills, detailed written statement explaining our financial need, etc. My application was TWENTY plus pages long. No way we would could afford $35K for one child while paying $15K for daycare for the youngest. We would like to think we have pretty bright kids who will thrive in an academically challenging environment that will expose them to a diverse group of people. That's not something they can receive at our local public school. The thing is we had no problem being fully open about our financial picture to the school. I personally think some of these people gripping about being full pay with less income should be applying for aid. It makes no sense to deny yourself simple things because you are struggling to be "full pay." It's as if there some added pride to say we are "full pay." What I am proud of is I found a way to provide my children a very good education without denying them vacations, decent clothes and shoes or extra curricular activities. Life is about balance. If you are sacrificing all of that to pay $25-$35K in tuition, then you have got it wrong about what it takes to raise a well balanced, happy, healthy and thriving child.

I see it differently -- you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live.

You are entitled to your opinion, and my child will still go to the school I wanted and go on vacation and where decent clothes. *shrugs*

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I see it differently -- you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live.

+1 I agree. No other way to spin it.

And to expand on that you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live while simultaneously depriving truly needy children of the financial aid that could help their families escape the school-to-prison pipeline. But enjoy your vacation.

What a weird comment. School to prison pipeline? Why don't you bring it up to the financial aid board?
My kid is a super star. They want us. Open a school in Kalkutta if you like but smart kids here have all doors open, including very good public school.

It's beyond weird. Last time I checked no child who was admitted and denied FA is now on the pipeline to prison. In fact, that statement shows the absurdity of who the poster thinks deserves FA. Wonder if the poster realizes my kid will do a better job of fitting in than that the kid "headed to prison" and there's a good chance the school knows that. The thing is the school WANTED my kid, and they where willing to do what it took to get my kid there. They can go stew on that!

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly pp. We have one kid with $150k combined income. Pay full freight.

I think a lot of people cheat to get FA

You cant cheat to get FA. I had to submit 2 years of tax returns with all schedules to provide proof of what we stated in our application. We received 57% FA from one school and 0% from another. HHI $189K family of 4 with 2 children in private already paying $28K a year. We can't afford $66K a year to send our 2 children to private.

+1. I'm amazed at this notion that people can "cheat" to get FA. My HHI is $187. We are a family of 4 with 2 children (1 in private and 1 in daycare). We had to provide 2 years of returns, copies of bills, detailed written statement explaining our financial need, etc. My application was TWENTY plus pages long. No way we would could afford $35K for one child while paying $15K for daycare for the youngest. We would like to think we have pretty bright kids who will thrive in an academically challenging environment that will expose them to a diverse group of people. That's not something they can receive at our local public school. The thing is we had no problem being fully open about our financial picture to the school. I personally think some of these people gripping about being full pay with less income should be applying for aid. It makes no sense to deny yourself simple things because you are struggling to be "full pay." It's as if there some added pride to say we are "full pay." What I am proud of is I found a way to provide my children a very good education without denying them vacations, decent clothes and shoes or extra curricular activities. Life is about balance. If you are sacrificing all of that to pay $25-$35K in tuition, then you have got it wrong about what it takes to raise a well balanced, happy, healthy and thriving child.

I see it differently -- you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live.

You are entitled to your opinion, and my child will still go to the school I wanted and go on vacation and where decent clothes. *shrugs*

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Anonymous wrote:

I see it differently -- you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live.

+1 I agree. No other way to spin it.

And to expand on that you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live while simultaneously depriving truly needy children of the financial aid that could help their families escape the school-to-prison pipeline. But enjoy your vacation.

Exactly!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I see it differently -- you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live.

+1 I agree. No other way to spin it.

And to expand on that you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live while simultaneously depriving truly needy children of the financial aid that could help their families escape the school-to-prison pipeline. But enjoy your vacation.

Exactly!!!!

Oh, poppycock. FA departments want a mix of middle- and low-income kids. PP isn't depriving anyone. If she didn't apply, that money would go to another middle class student.

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Anonymous wrote:

I see it differently -- you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live.

+1 I agree. No other way to spin it.

And to expand on that you found way to have other people provide your children a very good education and still allow you and your family to live the life you want to live while simultaneously depriving truly needy children of the financial aid that could help their families escape the school-to-prison pipeline. But enjoy your vacation.

Exactly!!!!

Oh, poppycock. FA departments want a mix of middle- and low-income kids. PP isn't depriving anyone. If she didn't apply, that money would go to another middle class student.

massive rationalization. It's how one get's over a guilty conscience.