My Husband Supports Trump

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe I am saying this as I am definitely left of center, but occasionally something Trump says resonates with me. Can't argue with his statements the other night regarding 9/11 and the Iraq war. He has definitely said some down right mean and hurtful things but I suppose if you are going to hammer him when he is nuts you gotta give him a little credit for standing on a stage in SC and saying what he said. Part of me almost doesn't want to believe that he believes the hurtful things he said. I know this sounds weird but growing up listening to Howard Stern in the early 90's Trump would call in and he was quite an affable guy. Not sure of he really changed or if he's all BS now. In other words I don;t buy his "hatred" having heard his thoughts years ago on numerous occasions. Still, I could never vote for him.

Supporting Trump requires that you believe, at the same time, that he "tells it like it is," but also that he doesn't believe the crap that he says.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP - how's it going now that Trump is #winning?

OP here - he's so much worse, but he conceded that Trump may have gone too far with the 9/11 and WMD thing (I don't even know what he's talking about - I just nod and move, nod and move).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP -- mine too. I think a lot of white men, in particular, (whether blue collar or white collar) feel that someone has taken the rug from under their feet. They have a certain entitlement and like Trump because he says what they are thinking.

We are so politically correct nowadays that kids on nearly every college campus want to re-name stuff because someone did something terrible or said something terrible years ago. So many ridiculous examples. Like Woodrow Wilson at Princeton. He was the President of the US, but now the kids don't want stuff named after him. George Washington had slaves...so then why do we have GWU? It goes on and on.

No one wants a black person to be killed by a copy for God's sake. But, now every cop is presumed to be a bigot. They can't win.

Not every Muslim is a terrorist, of course. But nearly every terrorist is a Muslim. So, Trump has a point. Not every illegal is a criminal..but some are.

So, Trump has a struck a cord on many issues. Let it pass OP. I think Cruz and Rubio are much scarier than Trump. They both seem like really scary hispanics to me.

I think that it is entirely possible that there are many white people of both genders who have been forced to confront the structural inequities and injustices that exist that have, historically, worked in their favor.

Not every cop is presumed to be a bigot, but racial profiling in police work does exist. The way to win is not to get angry and defensive when a person of color is upset about racial profiling in police work. It is to hear what those people are saying, and, if you're not a bigot, assume that they are talking about your bigot colleagues and work to change the system. Be a positive force, not a negative one.

Not every Muslim is a terrorist. Not even close to nearly every terrorist is a Muslim either. Not every undocumented immigrant is a violent criminal, and that episode of Trump's campaign should be an embarrassment to everyone who is not a bigot.

If Trump has struck a chord, it's because a large number of people in this country are very uncomfortable confronting their own privilege. Such that even suggesting that they do so is viewed as hostile. "Being politically correct" generally actually just means being respectful, not using racist or sexist language, etc. If that's difficult for your husband, that says something about him that is not good.

Cruz and Rubio are scary for a lot of reasons, but being Hispanic is hardly one of those reasons.

+1million. This is one of the most clear, concise, and truthful posts in the history of DCUM. Thank you, poster, you have renewed my hope in humanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - how's it going now that Trump is #winning?

OP here - he's so much worse, but he conceded that Trump may have gone too far with the 9/11 and WMD thing (I don't even know what he's talking about - I just nod and move, nod and move).

Hahahaha, that is the only thing trump has said that makes any sense.

[Anonymous]

Well, he just wants to keep the money he earns.
He also probably loves America.
Probably a stand up guy.

[Anonymous]

Who would want a "Hillary - Man"?

Yuck

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - how's it going now that Trump is #winning?

OP here - he's so much worse, but he conceded that Trump may have gone too far with the 9/11 and WMD thing (I don't even know what he's talking about - I just nod and move, nod and move).

Hahahaha, that is the only thing trump has said that makes any sense.

His lies are o.k., but if he tells the truth, that'll get him in trouble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP -- mine too. I think a lot of white men, in particular, (whether blue collar or white collar) feel that someone has taken the rug from under their feet. They have a certain entitlement and like Trump because he says what they are thinking.

We are so politically correct nowadays that kids on nearly every college campus want to re-name stuff because someone did something terrible or said something terrible years ago. So many ridiculous examples. Like Woodrow Wilson at Princeton. He was the President of the US, but now the kids don't want stuff named after him. George Washington had slaves...so then why do we have GWU? It goes on and on.

No one wants a black person to be killed by a copy for God's sake. But, now every cop is presumed to be a bigot. They can't win.

Not every Muslim is a terrorist, of course. But nearly every terrorist is a Muslim. So, Trump has a point. Not every illegal is a criminal..but some are.

So, Trump has a struck a cord on many issues. Let it pass OP. I think Cruz and Rubio are much scarier than Trump. They both seem like really scary hispanics to me.

I think that it is entirely possible that there are many white people of both genders who have been forced to confront the structural inequities and injustices that exist that have, historically, worked in their favor.

Not every cop is presumed to be a bigot, but racial profiling in police work does exist. The way to win is not to get angry and defensive when a person of color is upset about racial profiling in police work. It is to hear what those people are saying, and, if you're not a bigot, assume that they are talking about your bigot colleagues and work to change the system. Be a positive force, not a negative one.

Not every Muslim is a terrorist. Not even close to nearly every terrorist is a Muslim either. Not every undocumented immigrant is a violent criminal, and that episode of Trump's campaign should be an embarrassment to everyone who is not a bigot.

If Trump has struck a chord, it's because a large number of people in this country are very uncomfortable confronting their own privilege. Such that even suggesting that they do so is viewed as hostile. "Being politically correct" generally actually just means being respectful, not using racist or sexist language, etc. If that's difficult for your husband, that says something about him that is not good.

Cruz and Rubio are scary for a lot of reasons, but being Hispanic is hardly one of those reasons.

+1million. This is one of the most clear, concise, and truthful posts in the history of DCUM. Thank you, poster, you have renewed my hope in humanity.

-1 million. The "privilege" thing is just a plain stupid concept to justify lack of agency.

The black son of a wealthy doctor who gets into an Ivy helped by his skin color is much more privileged than the poor white in the Appalachian who doesn't even know what the Ivy League is. Much more privileged than the son of an Asian gas station attendant who can't get into any top school despite despite his incredible academic credentials. Much more privileged than the several million undocumented neighbors that our President has deported.

[Anonymous]

Yikes. I'm so so sorry.

[Anonymous]

I totally understand, OP. I am not a Trump supporter, but I understand the attraction to someone who speaks his mind (even if what he says is sometimes incorrect and often provocative). We have an angry electorate.

[Anonymous]

Have you had your husband evaluated for some kind of head trauma/brain tumor/mental illness?

Serious question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That pretty much says it all. How do I even deal? He has gotten more and more conservative as the dems have moved further and further left, but this is just beyond the pale. I dread talking to him.

"People should be more humble about their political views. OP, there are people who are smarter, more reasonable, and more knowledgeable than you who are on the opposite side from you on literally every political issue. Including Trump. This is not true only for you, however, it is true for me and for everyone else."

I am not the poster of this but think the above bears repeating. To the extent you believe in God or a Higher Power or some kind of ultimate Right and Wrong, what are the chances that your/our views on every single political and social issue, are 100% Correct? I actually feel strongly about a lot of issues, but reminding myself that chances are I am missing the mark in some way, at least in some respect, helps me to respect others' views.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe I am saying this as I am definitely left of center, but occasionally something Trump says resonates with me. Can't argue with his statements the other night regarding 9/11 and the Iraq war. He has definitely said some down right mean and hurtful things but I suppose if you are going to hammer him when he is nuts you gotta give him a little credit for standing on a stage in SC and saying what he said. Part of me almost doesn't want to believe that he believes the hurtful things he said. I know this sounds weird but growing up listening to Howard Stern in the early 90's Trump would call in and he was quite an affable guy. Not sure of he really changed or if he's all BS now. In other words I don;t buy his "hatred" having heard his thoughts years ago on numerous occasions. Still, I could never vote for him.

Supporting Trump requires that you believe, at the same time, that he "tells it like it is," but also that he doesn't believe the crap that he says.

Or that a man who brags about buying and selling politicians is a) an outsider, and b) not remotely responsible for the politicians and policies he now denigrates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you had your husband evaluated for some kind of head trauma/brain tumor/mental illness?

Serious question.

I guess it's not just Trump supporters who comprise the "angry electorate."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That pretty much says it all. How do I even deal? He has gotten more and more conservative as the dems have moved further and further left, but this is just beyond the pale. I dread talking to him.

Avoid talking about politics with him then. That means both ways too. If you don't want to hear his views on politics, don't go broadcasting your views either. If he refuses to stop talking about politics, then start ignoring him.