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I looked at the CDS for UVA and W&M from their websites and I didn't see anything broken out by gender. Is there another place to look? I also don't think looking at the total group is particularly odd; the assertion was that white women had higher SAT scores than white men. That's simply not true based on the data; higher average SAT scores and significantly more scoring above 700 on the math portion. It's possible that there are more men getting high SAT scores that don't have the grades to enter top schools, but white men do, without a doubt; score slightly higher than white women. If the admitted men at schools have lower SATs than the admitted women it's not because they can't find guys out there with higher scores. |
Top 25 law school and my B.A. is in Economics. Boom! |
Plain ignorance. |
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Non-black applicant with 2370 SAT, 4.0 and 4.6 gpa, 12+ APs all 5s, 800 on all subject tests, sport, orchestra, 2 major leadership positions, extensive volunteering, original research at University, internships at research labs, writing award and writing tutor, 3 foreign languages, excellent clubs and ECs, excellent LORs etc. denied to all colleges except one. Low SES with no advantages. A black applicant with the above qualifications would have been admitted to all of the colleges. Depends on the race. |
When my son was in seventh grade, one of his friend told him that even if he is the football team captain and the student council president, gets straight A’s and a perfect SAT score, he still won’t be able to get into Harvard—just because he is an Asian. (He was the running back of his school football team at the time and a member of school student council.) He asked me if this is true. It saddened me that I couldn’t simply tell him it is not.
When my daughter was six, she played a game at a Girl Scout meeting to learn that they are all equal despite their different skin colors and looks; race doesn’t matter. She was taught so at home and at school for 17 years and she believed in it. I often heard her say that “race doesn’t matter” when the word was “race” mentioned—until her senior year in high school. I asked her what was so great about her friend to make him be accepted to Harvard. Instead of telling me about his accomplishments, she said that his mother (a Caucasian woman) has some sort of Hispanic lineage, so he is a “Hispanic”. This race-based admission process slaps everybody on the face. It tells kids what hypocrites we all are. Our school district has zero tolerance for racial discrimination. Our children were told for all their lives that they should judge people by their character, not skin color. But right before our kids leave home for college, it is our country’s most prestigious institutions that FIRST bring them the news: What your parents and teachers have taught you are lies: Race does matter! We judge you by your skin color! |
Reading this I wonder a) if the kid applied to the right schools for him/her and 2) if who the kid is and what he wants out of life came across. I see an excellent student, then a long list of leadership positions, writing awards and research experiences before we even get to the excellent clubs and ECs. If he's sort of a jack of all trades with no clear passion, there are too many kids like this applying to all schools. |
Sadly, this is all too true. |
You conveniently dismissed the part where where the black student would have been admitted -- even as a jack-of-all trades and no clear passion. |
There was a black kid last year with significantly worse stats that was accepted to every Ivy League school. |
Imagine how impressive that black kid would have been if he had been exposed to the helicoptering and enrichment as the kids of most of the parents on this board. |
Racist much? Are you implying thst because he is black he had poor parenting and no opportunities? |
Do you know how to write much? ![]() |
But that black student would be, duh, black. And therefore add so much color to university brochures. Isn't that the point of Affirmative Racist Action (ARA)? |