Tell me about Albert Einstein HS

[Anonymous]

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Here is a link to more detailed SAT data for each high school broken down by race (pages 10-12):
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/pdf/SATBOEMemo10614.pdf

1 out of 4 Churchill students didn't take the SAT? And 1 out of 5 Whitman and Wootton students? Wow, I wouldn't let my child hang around with such a mediocre peer group. My child might get ideas!

(Thanks for the link, PP!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Here is a link to more detailed SAT data for each high school broken down by race (pages 10-12):
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/pdf/SATBOEMemo10614.pdf

1 out of 4 Churchill students didn't take the SAT? And 1 out of 5 Whitman and Wootton students? Wow, I wouldn't let my child hang around with such a mediocre peer group. My child might get ideas!

(Thanks for the link, PP!)

I don't have kids in W schools but I think your post is just stupid. Maybe you were trying to be funny...

[Anonymous]

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This is a misleading statistic, most of the poor kids you quote don't actually take the SAT. It isn't only the higher FARMs rate that explain Einstein's poor SAT performance but so has to go to the school it's self. The 50% percent who took it are mostly the middle class kids and that is part of the problem. Einstein can't possible foster the level of college preparedness that say a Whitman can (90%) because of college simply isn't in the picture for so many of it's students. Then you create gaps for those kids to fall through and then other kids start taking the path of least resistance too. A mediocre peer group is the worst thing an involved parent can expose their kids too IMO and it is selfish of parents to justify sending the kids to places like that so they can get 500 extra SqFt and a driveway.

But maybe if the parents did a little better they could get the schools and the driveway so maybe the kids are simply reflections.

Shorter PP: the poor kids at Einstein make the middle-class kids at Einstein dumber. It's the infectious disease model of SAT scores and college attendance.

No, the poor kids cap the level of curriculum that can be offered lower by not only their comprehension due to previous poor schooling but also by being a resource suck for the school who must then offer lower level classes and focus on greater levels of discipline and failure remediation. If a teacher spends the who class trying to help a kid with a E he isn't pushing the rest of the class forward. And if room 203 is used 5 times a day for Senior level basics of math it isn't being used for AP biology or does your school have an abundance of space and resources?

What school did you attend that fostered this type of ignorance? SES does not determine INTELLIGENCE. Intelligence is not determined by your SAT score and what you qualify as a good college. Intelligence has to do with your capacity to learn not just what you have been taught in school and being a sheep herded down your high school to ivy league -- rat race job so-called success pipeline. And I would much rather my kid not attend school with anyone whose parents are anything like you. I feel sorry for your kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do Einstein kids consider UMCP as a safety? Do most of kids who apply get accepted?

Not sure anyone should consider UMCP a "safety school" anymore. According to this chart, only about 50% of the BCC kids who applied last year were accepted...

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Magazine/September-October-2014/College-Bound/index.php?cparticle=2&siarticle=1#artanc

One reason they are no longer a safety school is they are looking over local candidates in preference to higher paying out of state ones....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This is a misleading statistic, most of the poor kids you quote don't actually take the SAT. It isn't only the higher FARMs rate that explain Einstein's poor SAT performance but so has to go to the school it's self. The 50% percent who took it are mostly the middle class kids and that is part of the problem. Einstein can't possible foster the level of college preparedness that say a Whitman can (90%) because of college simply isn't in the picture for so many of it's students. Then you create gaps for those kids to fall through and then other kids start taking the path of least resistance too. A mediocre peer group is the worst thing an involved parent can expose their kids too IMO and it is selfish of parents to justify sending the kids to places like that so they can get 500 extra SqFt and a driveway.

But maybe if the parents did a little better they could get the schools and the driveway so maybe the kids are simply reflections.

Shorter PP: the poor kids at Einstein make the middle-class kids at Einstein dumber. It's the infectious disease model of SAT scores and college attendance.

No, the poor kids cap the level of curriculum that can be offered lower by not only their comprehension due to previous poor schooling but also by being a resource suck for the school who must then offer lower level classes and focus on greater levels of discipline and failure remediation. If a teacher spends the who class trying to help a kid with a E he isn't pushing the rest of the class forward. And if room 203 is used 5 times a day for Senior level basics of math it isn't being used for AP biology or does your school have an abundance of space and resources?

They don't cap the level of curriculum. There are just less top level classes because they cannot be filled. But that doesn't mean the school doesn't mean that deserving students don't get the instruction needed. I attended highschool with one of my good friends who was mediocre academically and I didn't see them the whole day, not once. Why? The peer group of high achieving students was insulated just by level of classes even in a school with greater percentage of FARMS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This is a misleading statistic, most of the poor kids you quote don't actually take the SAT. It isn't only the higher FARMs rate that explain Einstein's poor SAT performance but so has to go to the school it's self. The 50% percent who took it are mostly the middle class kids and that is part of the problem. Einstein can't possible foster the level of college preparedness that say a Whitman can (90%) because of college simply isn't in the picture for so many of it's students. Then you create gaps for those kids to fall through and then other kids start taking the path of least resistance too. A mediocre peer group is the worst thing an involved parent can expose their kids too IMO and it is selfish of parents to justify sending the kids to places like that so they can get 500 extra SqFt and a driveway.

But maybe if the parents did a little better they could get the schools and the driveway so maybe the kids are simply reflections.

Shorter PP: the poor kids at Einstein make the middle-class kids at Einstein dumber. It's the infectious disease model of SAT scores and college attendance.

No, the poor kids cap the level of curriculum that can be offered lower by not only their comprehension due to previous poor schooling but also by being a resource suck for the school who must then offer lower level classes and focus on greater levels of discipline and failure remediation. If a teacher spends the who class trying to help a kid with a E he isn't pushing the rest of the class forward. And if room 203 is used 5 times a day for Senior level basics of math it isn't being used for AP biology or does your school have an abundance of space and resources?

I think this is a more legitimate concern in middle school, where kids are not grouped by ability for all classes. I really don't see this as a concern for Einstein HS, since there are so many high-level course offerings.

They don't cap the level of curriculum. There are just less top level classes because they cannot be filled. But that doesn't mean the school doesn't mean that deserving students don't get the instruction needed. I attended highschool with one of my good friends who was mediocre academically and I didn't see them the whole day, not once. Why? The peer group of high achieving students was insulated just by level of classes even in a school with greater percentage of FARMS.

[Anonymous]

I think all the "W" promotors are just fools.

I live in a beautiful, family friendly-neighborhood with lots of wonderful, professional neighbors who have interesting careers. My house is large, updated with a nice addition and cost us $430K (worth more, but we bought a while ago). My kids go to DCC schools with a great group, have a lot of diverse friends, there's much less social pressure for possessions and money than in the W schools, and my high schooler will graduate with 10 AP credits, a high GPA in almost all honors/AP, and interesting extracurriculars. I am 100% confident both will get into the colleges of their choice -- and even better, that we have saved enough to pay for that!

We do it all on a reasonable HHI with both parents having plenty of time with kids. I can work from home.

Sure, we could have moved to a "W" school cluster but why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think all the "W" promotors are just fools.

I live in a beautiful, family friendly-neighborhood with lots of wonderful, professional neighbors who have interesting careers. My house is large, updated with a nice addition and cost us $430K (worth more, but we bought a while ago). My kids go to DCC schools with a great group, have a lot of diverse friends, there's much less social pressure for possessions and money than in the W schools, and my high schooler will graduate with 10 AP credits, a high GPA in almost all honors/AP, and interesting extracurriculars. I am 100% confident both will get into the colleges of their choice -- and even better, that we have saved enough to pay for that!

We do it all on a reasonable HHI with both parents having plenty of time with kids. I can work from home.

Sure, we could have moved to a "W" school cluster but why?

Maybe they are fools, maybe they are not...

College process is highly unpredictable. Just having 10 APs/"high" GPA doesn't guarantee an admission to college of your choice. There are a lot of kids with 10 or more APs/IBs in MCPS with 99%tile test scores. What is your DC's SAT or ACT scores that made you so confident?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think all the "W" promotors are just fools.

I live in a beautiful, family friendly-neighborhood with lots of wonderful, professional neighbors who have interesting careers. My house is large, updated with a nice addition and cost us $430K (worth more, but we bought a while ago). My kids go to DCC schools with a great group, have a lot of diverse friends, there's much less social pressure for possessions and money than in the W schools, and my high schooler will graduate with 10 AP credits, a high GPA in almost all honors/AP, and interesting extracurriculars. I am 100% confident both will get into the colleges of their choice -- and even better, that we have saved enough to pay for that!

We do it all on a reasonable HHI with both parents having plenty of time with kids. I can work from home.

Sure, we could have moved to a "W" school cluster but why?

Maybe they are fools, maybe they are not...

College process is highly unpredictable. Just having 10 APs/"high" GPA doesn't guarantee an admission to college of your choice. There are a lot of kids with 10 or more APs/IBs in MCPS with 99%tile test scores. What is your DC's SAT or ACT scores that made you so confident?

SAT 2290

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think all the "W" promotors are just fools.

I live in a beautiful, family friendly-neighborhood with lots of wonderful, professional neighbors who have interesting careers. My house is large, updated with a nice addition and cost us $430K (worth more, but we bought a while ago). My kids go to DCC schools with a great group, have a lot of diverse friends, there's much less social pressure for possessions and money than in the W schools, and my high schooler will graduate with 10 AP credits, a high GPA in almost all honors/AP, and interesting extracurriculars. I am 100% confident both will get into the colleges of their choice -- and even better, that we have saved enough to pay for that!

We do it all on a reasonable HHI with both parents having plenty of time with kids. I can work from home.

Sure, we could have moved to a "W" school cluster but why?

Maybe they are fools, maybe they are not...

College process is highly unpredictable. Just having 10 APs/"high" GPA doesn't guarantee an admission to college of your choice. There are a lot of kids with 10 or more APs/IBs in MCPS with 99%tile test scores. What is your DC's SAT or ACT scores that made you so confident?

SAT 2290

That's a good score. Unless you have a hook, top-tier schools are probably out of reach. But the second tier should be fine.

[Anonymous]

2290? Sounds like you are a great candidate for Salisbury State or Towson, or maybe Delaware.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2290? Sounds like you are a great candidate for Salisbury State or Towson, or maybe Delaware.

Oh, good grief.

1. The 75th percentile SAT score for Salisbury University is 1840: http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/p/salisbury-university.htm
2. Salisbury University is not an insult (nor is Towson University, nor is the University of Delaware).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2290? Sounds like you are a great candidate for Salisbury State or Towson, or maybe Delaware.

2290 is 99+ percentile nationwide in 2015. She wants to go to Oberlin. Top of the average range of admitted students at Oberlin is 2230. And yes, she has a couple of hooks. So we're feeling pretty confident.

Average SAT for Delaware is 1810 for regular university and 2080 for their Honors program.

Just for comparison sake, average SAT for students admitted to Princeton in 2014 was 2120 to 2400, so she's in that range as well. Yale's average range was 2120 to 2390.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2290? Sounds like you are a great candidate for Salisbury State or Towson, or maybe Delaware.

2290 is 99+ percentile nationwide in 2015. She wants to go to Oberlin. Top of the average range of admitted students at Oberlin is 2230. And yes, she has a couple of hooks. So we're feeling pretty confident.

Average SAT for Delaware is 1810 for regular university and 2080 for their Honors program.

Just for comparison sake, average SAT for students admitted to Princeton in 2014 was 2120 to 2400, so she's in that range as well. Yale's average range was 2120 to 2390.

But those schools will look at so many different factors. SAT is just one of the many they will evaluate. There are more kids above 2300 and up who get rejected than getting in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think all the "W" promotors are just fools.

I live in a beautiful, family friendly-neighborhood with lots of wonderful, professional neighbors who have interesting careers. My house is large, updated with a nice addition and cost us $430K (worth more, but we bought a while ago). My kids go to DCC schools with a great group, have a lot of diverse friends, there's much less social pressure for possessions and money than in the W schools, and my high schooler will graduate with 10 AP credits, a high GPA in almost all honors/AP, and interesting extracurriculars. I am 100% confident both will get into the colleges of their choice -- and even better, that we have saved enough to pay for that!

We do it all on a reasonable HHI with both parents having plenty of time with kids. I can work from home.

Sure, we could have moved to a "W" school cluster but why?

Maybe they are fools, maybe they are not...

College process is highly unpredictable. Just having 10 APs/"high" GPA doesn't guarantee an admission to college of your choice. There are a lot of kids with 10 or more APs/IBs in MCPS with 99%tile test scores. What is your DC's SAT or ACT scores that made you so confident?

SAT 2290

That's a good score. Unless you have a hook, top-tier schools are probably out of reach. But the second tier should be fine.

NP here. You're a jerk.