Tell me about Albert Einstein HS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This conversation is so confusing for me. Most houses zoned for Einstein today are over $400,000. You definitely are not low SES if you can afford a house at that price. So if you have small kids now, the reasoning would be that, based on SES alone, Einstein will only get better going forward.

Also at this reasoning, it's better to go to a W school than, for example, any school in Ohio, because of the lower cost of living and associated salaries? This seems ridiculous IMO.

Earning $180-250,000 and living in one of those houses is considered "poor" in this area. A bit ironic as many of us live comfortable and can pay cash for our kids college education because of the choices we make.

Not by me, it isn't. That's twice as much as my household income. (Maybe I shouldn't get to post on DCUM because I'm a poor?)

[Anonymous]

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No one cares where you went to high school except college admissions boards, and then everyone cares where you went to college.

This way of thinking is about a decade outdated. Do you work outside the home?

One does not work inside the home. Yes, I'm employed and no one has ever cared where I went to high school or impressed that I went to better high schools. They care where I got my master's degree from and I have the proper credentials for the job.

One might not, but I do. I work inside the home for pay when I telework, and I work inside the home for no pay when I wash dishes, clean the bathrooms, do the laundry, and mow the lawn. I don't do those things for fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This conversation is so confusing for me. Most houses zoned for Einstein today are over $400,000. You definitely are not low SES if you can afford a house at that price. So if you have small kids now, the reasoning would be that, based on SES alone, Einstein will only get better going forward.

Also at this reasoning, it's better to go to a W school than, for example, any school in Ohio, because of the lower cost of living and associated salaries? This seems ridiculous IMO.

Earning $180-250,000 and living in one of those houses is considered "poor" in this area. A bit ironic as many of us live comfortable and can pay cash for our kids college education because of the choices we make.

Not by me, it isn't. That's twice as much as my household income. (Maybe I shouldn't get to post on DCUM because I'm a poor?)

I doubt PP's figure. Not too many, if any, 250HHI families within E boundary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This conversation is so confusing for me. Most houses zoned for Einstein today are over $400,000. You definitely are not low SES if you can afford a house at that price. So if you have small kids now, the reasoning would be that, based on SES alone, Einstein will only get better going forward.

Also at this reasoning, it's better to go to a W school than, for example, any school in Ohio, because of the lower cost of living and associated salaries? This seems ridiculous IMO.

Earning $180-250,000 and living in one of those houses is considered "poor" in this area. A bit ironic as many of us live comfortable and can pay cash for our kids college education because of the choices we make.

Not by me, it isn't. That's twice as much as my household income. (Maybe I shouldn't get to post on DCUM because I'm a poor?)

I doubt PP's figure. Not too many, if any, 250HHI families within E boundary.

This is COMPLETELY off base. There are many families with $200K+ HHI who live in Silver Spring and that part of Kensington, mine included.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This conversation is so confusing for me. Most houses zoned for Einstein today are over $400,000. You definitely are not low SES if you can afford a house at that price. So if you have small kids now, the reasoning would be that, based on SES alone, Einstein will only get better going forward.

Also at this reasoning, it's better to go to a W school than, for example, any school in Ohio, because of the lower cost of living and associated salaries? This seems ridiculous IMO.

Earning $180-250,000 and living in one of those houses is considered "poor" in this area. A bit ironic as many of us live comfortable and can pay cash for our kids college education because of the choices we make.

Not by me, it isn't. That's twice as much as my household income. (Maybe I shouldn't get to post on DCUM because I'm a poor?)

I doubt PP's figure. Not too many, if any, 250HHI families within E boundary.

Actually, there are many of us in that demographic in Woodside Park, Forest Glen, and Kensington. And the families of VAC students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No one cares where you went to high school except college admissions boards, and then everyone cares where you went to college.

This way of thinking is about a decade outdated. Do you work outside the home?

One does not work inside the home. Yes, I'm employed and no one has ever cared where I went to high school or impressed that I went to better high schools. They care where I got my master's degree from and I have the proper credentials for the job.

One might not, but I do. I work inside the home for pay when I telework, and I work inside the home for no pay when I wash dishes, clean the bathrooms, do the laundry, and mow the lawn. I don't do those things for fun.

That's not work - you are not working when you are doing your own dishes, cleaning your bathroom or doing laundry. And, it doesn't matter where you went to school to do all that. That's like saying parenting is work when it is a lifestyle choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This conversation is so confusing for me. Most houses zoned for Einstein today are over $400,000. You definitely are not low SES if you can afford a house at that price. So if you have small kids now, the reasoning would be that, based on SES alone, Einstein will only get better going forward.

Also at this reasoning, it's better to go to a W school than, for example, any school in Ohio, because of the lower cost of living and associated salaries? This seems ridiculous IMO.

Earning $180-250,000 and living in one of those houses is considered "poor" in this area. A bit ironic as many of us live comfortable and can pay cash for our kids college education because of the choices we make.

Not by me, it isn't. That's twice as much as my household income. (Maybe I shouldn't get to post on DCUM because I'm a poor?)

I doubt PP's figure. Not too many, if any, 250HHI families within E boundary.

Actually, there are many of us in that demographic in Woodside Park, Forest Glen, and Kensington. And the families of VAC students.

We are living there and that absolutely is our demographic and many of our neighbors, especially those who bought recently. There is a huge mix of apartments/moderate income/low income and higher incomes. We live under our means. We could afford more but are very risk adverse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This conversation is so confusing for me. Most houses zoned for Einstein today are over $400,000. You definitely are not low SES if you can afford a house at that price. So if you have small kids now, the reasoning would be that, based on SES alone, Einstein will only get better going forward.

Also at this reasoning, it's better to go to a W school than, for example, any school in Ohio, because of the lower cost of living and associated salaries? This seems ridiculous IMO.

Earning $180-250,000 and living in one of those houses is considered "poor" in this area. A bit ironic as many of us live comfortable and can pay cash for our kids college education because of the choices we make.

Not by me, it isn't. That's twice as much as my household income. (Maybe I shouldn't get to post on DCUM because I'm a poor?)

Nope, stay and let the $300,000+ who live in their own reality go. We happened to get lucky with my husband's career the past few years or our lives would look very different (which would be fine too).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No one cares where you went to high school except college admissions boards, and then everyone cares where you went to college.

This way of thinking is about a decade outdated. Do you work outside the home?

One does not work inside the home. Yes, I'm employed and no one has ever cared where I went to high school or impressed that I went to better high schools. They care where I got my master's degree from and I have the proper credentials for the job.

The point I was trying make is that outside of perhaps academia, few employers anymore are hung up on where you went to college. For anyone paying attention, we are living in a tech-driven talent economy and companies that hope to survive want to know what you can do, not what your pedigree is. I work for a major media company, a big brand name; 10 years ago the class of summer interns was almost entirely Ivy League kids, this summer, none are. They come from a wide variety of colleges, including many state schools. The thing they have in common is they all have sophisticated digital skills and creative talent.

The field is leveling in similar fashion is most industries. What can you do, not where did you go.

[Anonymous]

There are more people who are scarred from bad HS experiences because they didn't fit in than those who benefit from these "top" public schools. (I do think private is different)

After college, no one cares where you went to high school, and there are plenty of students at high-ranked colleges who didn't go to top publics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No one cares where you went to high school except college admissions boards, and then everyone cares where you went to college.

This way of thinking is about a decade outdated. Do you work outside the home?

One does not work inside the home. Yes, I'm employed and no one has ever cared where I went to high school or impressed that I went to better high schools. They care where I got my master's degree from and I have the proper credentials for the job.

The point I was trying make is that outside of perhaps academia, few employers anymore are hung up on where you went to college. For anyone paying attention, we are living in a tech-driven talent economy and companies that hope to survive want to know what you can do, not what your pedigree is. I work for a major media company, a big brand name; 10 years ago the class of summer interns was almost entirely Ivy League kids, this summer, none are. They come from a wide variety of colleges, including many state schools. The thing they have in common is they all have sophisticated digital skills and creative talent.

The field is leveling in similar fashion is most industries. What can you do, not where did you go.

It depends on your job - I care where my doctor went to school or other professions. In IT, no it doesn't matter as much.

[Anonymous]

Fun fact: average white student's score on the SAT at Einstein is 1813. Average white student score at Churchill is 1802, WJ is 1818, BCC 1868. Race is absolutely a proxy for income at Einstein, and it sure doesn't sound like the poor kids are bringing down the scores of the wealthier white kids.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/pdf/Class2010SAT-MCPS-MD-Nation-9-13-10-final.pdf Table A16

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fun fact: average white student's score on the SAT at Einstein is 1813. Average white student score at Churchill is 1802, WJ is 1818, BCC 1868. Race is absolutely a proxy for income at Einstein, and it sure doesn't sound like the poor kids are bringing down the scores of the wealthier white kids.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/pdf/Class2010SAT-MCPS-MD-Nation-9-13-10-final.pdf Table A16

THIS is the data I didn't think existed, but thank you for finding and posting it. This should come as some consolation to the OP, and confirms that I've thought for a long time about how middle-class status and parental education is a much better indicator of success than what high school you attend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fun fact: average white student's score on the SAT at Einstein is 1813. Average white student score at Churchill is 1802, WJ is 1818, BCC 1868. Race is absolutely a proxy for income at Einstein, and it sure doesn't sound like the poor kids are bringing down the scores of the wealthier white kids.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/pdf/Class2010SAT-MCPS-MD-Nation-9-13-10-final.pdf Table A16

Nice. I love when somebody finds evidence like this that just totally blows a hole through the prevailing mythology that seems to dominate discussion on this board.

[Anonymous]

2006-2010 data!! OLD DATA.

Since 2010, Churchill's avg SAT went up by 75, and Einstein's SAT went down by that much.