Ward 6 Middle Schools

[Anonymous]

...and what are you doing anyway special need parent? You going to send kid to Hine now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:...and what are you doing anyway special need parent? You going to send kid to Hine now?

I love you! I love that one day you might slip in casual conversation with your friends or neighbors and they might connect your identity with this type of view. But I respect your honesty, even if it requires playing with your limited intellect and reason to get you to admit it. Here's what you've admitted:

The brown people are who will be warehoused - they're poor and don't want to travel anyway
Special needs and kids that require additional assistance should be "tracked" at an early age
Parents should pay out of pocket for special needs
Your neighbors are "rich"
Parents in white neighborhoods don't utilize the pubic schools and city supplied resources today

Let me guess: You are a white male that watches Fox News and is convinced that you are a victim of "reverse racism". You make what you think is good money (@125k all in) and, because you are young and don't have many of the expenses and responsibilities that sadly come when you are older (e.g., parents to support, unexpected family expenses). You don't understand that at some point you'll pay almost 50% n taxes so take-home goes down relative to salary when you make more. You think that rich people are persecuted but you don't actually qualify. You don't have kids and if you do they are under 2. And you've lived in DC for less than 4 years. I'm done with you now, so please know that your inevitable reply that "I'm totally wrong and you make a million dollars a year" won't be read or responded to. Long live Bill O'Reilly!!!

[Anonymous]

Oh man, I'm really sorry, I honestly want to have a constructive conversation here and this fear, of offending, is why I don't say 80% of this aloud and am on an anonymous board. I love you too.

And, you're completely wrong about me, I'm a very involved Ward 6 parent, with AA friends and friends of parents with SN. But again SO much easier to make me the asshole.

I know I might not have all of the perspectives down here - just trying. I'm honestly trying and I didn't think of the SN angle.

[Anonymous]

Hilarious. Try setting up a meeting with Cjarles Allen and gauge his reaction. DCPS and CHPSPO aren't going to give you the time of day. There is but one solution that would see to work for most of Capitol Hill: Watkins becomes s middle school and Stuart-Hine becomes a true neighbohood elementary school for upper grades. Brent, LT, SWS, SHES (Stuart Hobson Elementary School, Maury and Tyler could then feed to the new Watkins MS, leaving Latin, Basis and WGPCS as alternatives as the IB population continues to surge. Shaw Middle School should be relaunched or offloaded to Basis or another charter operator. And there is no good rationale to continue to operate Jefferson as a half empty school at which 60 percent of the kids are not IB. The same could be said for Eliot-Hine.

Of course, this will never happen, among other reasons, because the Mayor and DC Council is not capable of asking hard questions or holding DCPS accountable and the visionaries downtown are too enamored with the fallacy that Brent and Van Ness will breathe life into a half-empty Jefferson, while Maury alone will be able to jump start Eliot-Hine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious. Try setting up a meeting with Cjarles Allen and gauge his reaction. DCPS and CHPSPO aren't going to give you the time of day. There is but one solution that would see to work for most of Capitol Hill: Watkins becomes s middle school and Stuart-Hine becomes a true neighbohood elementary school for upper grades. Brent, LT, SWS, SHES (Stuart Hobson Elementary School, Maury and Tyler could then feed to the new Watkins MS, leaving Latin, Basis and WGPCS as alternatives as the IB population continues to surge. Shaw Middle School should be relaunched or offloaded to Basis or another charter operator. And there is no good rationale to continue to operate Jefferson as a half empty school at which 60 percent of the kids are not IB. The same could be said for Eliot-Hine.

Of course, this will never happen, among other reasons, because the Mayor and DC Council is not capable of asking hard questions or holding DCPS accountable and the visionaries downtown are too enamored with the fallacy that Brent and Van Ness will breathe life into a half-empty Jefferson, while Maury alone will be able to jump start Eliot-Hine.

Your Brent-centric approach is noted. How about JO and the bulging population north of H? Are you suggesting they go to school in Ward 5?

[Anonymous]

Well then, there you have it in a nut shell with the PP's comments I'm either a complete, elitist asshole or a delusional hopeful. We just won't say it aloud and we'll keep jumping to charters or moving until there's a critical mass that drives the poor kids out in 5 years. Love this city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well then, there you have it in a nut shell with the PP's comments I'm either a complete, elitist asshole or a delusional hopeful. We just won't say it aloud and we'll keep jumping to charters or moving until there's a critical mass that drives the poor kids out in 5 years. Love this city.

NP here. If we are voting then can I cast a vote for uniformed, sheltered latent racist?

[Anonymous]

^ enjoy your CHPSPO meetings pp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:...and what are you doing anyway special need parent? You going to send kid to Hine now?

I love you! I love that one day you might slip in casual conversation with your friends or neighbors and they might connect your identity with this type of view. But I respect your honesty, even if it requires playing with your limited intellect and reason to get you to admit it. Here's what you've admitted:

The brown people are who will be warehoused - they're poor and don't want to travel anyway
Special needs and kids that require additional assistance should be "tracked" at an early age
Parents should pay out of pocket for special needs
Your neighbors are "rich"
Parents in white neighborhoods don't utilize the pubic schools and city supplied resources today

Let me guess: You are a white male that watches Fox News and is convinced that you are a victim of "reverse racism". You make what you think is good money (@125k all in) and, because you are young and don't have many of the expenses and responsibilities that sadly come when you are older (e.g., parents to support, unexpected family expenses). You don't understand that at some point you'll pay almost 50% n taxes so take-home goes down relative to salary when you make more. You think that rich people are persecuted but you don't actually qualify. You don't have kids and if you do they are under 2. And you've lived in DC for less than 4 years. I'm done with you now, so please know that your inevitable reply that "I'm totally wrong and you make a million dollars a year" won't be read or responded to. Long live Bill O'Reilly!!!

I think PP's proposal has real problems, but honestly this response is so obnoxious on so many levels I am pretty sure I am not on your side either. My favorite part is the contempt for PP as a Bill O'Reilly watcher even as you simultaneously sniff at a $125,000 salary and yourself spout Fox News talking points about how your take home goes down as your salary goes up because of your crushing tax burden.

[Anonymous]

This thread is such a beautiful illustration of what happens when you don't stand up and scream "Yes! I'm thrilled to send my kids in!" in ward 6. And why people are so often SHOCKED when people charter out or move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is it we can't get along about - how to fix the schools? Because this "specialized" solution feels equitable. "Empowering men of color" hasn't been admonished as segregation by DCPs as so if we can pitch it right, maybe this wouldn't either? You get the money and the resources you need - and you deserve more with this population - "we" get the population we desire. Could we even sweeten the deal with say, every penny raised is shared between the two schools? Again, I don't think this is an all-white/high SES school we'd be creating, it's a school where the kids with potential can get out of the fray and the kids with extra needs get them met.

I'm no educational expert, so maybe there is an inherent flaw and this is a total pipe dream, but if it truly is a situation where very child could benefit, and it gives the higher SES students a way to stay with DCPS and bring the resources they do, I'd like to think its politics and fear of being politically incorrect that keeps us from talking about it.

So what about a rich, white child from a two parent household who has dyslexia, PP? What if this is your child, PP? Are you okay with tracking your child into this vocational ed middle school?

I'm going to guess…. no.

So essentially, you want a private school, paid for by the public, for your child.

This is not going to happen. It is never going to happen. This is a proposal that would in no way stand up in court, ever.

I just can't even with this...

[Anonymous]

Is rich dyslexic kid skipping off to Hine this fall? What's your solution pp?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is such a beautiful illustration of what happens when you don't stand up and scream "Yes! I'm thrilled to send my kids in!" in ward 6. And why people are so often SHOCKED when people charter out or move.

There's a pretty big difference between "I wouldn't send my child to a middle school in Ward 6 because I have serious concerns about them" and "hey, let's stick all the poor, dumb, troublemakers from the city war zones (!!) in one school and teach them vocational skills, and all the smart rich kids in another school! Isn't this a fabulous idea!"

I have serious concerns about the middle schools as well, but let's not waste time on idiocy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is rich dyslexic kid skipping off to Hine this fall? What's your solution pp?

Putting this kid in vocational ed in the 6TH GRADE is your great solution? Really? GTFO.

[Anonymous]

What's YOUR solution? Where is he going instead?