Posting as someone with direct family ties to Venezuela.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

You are on a fool if you think this was about anything but Venezuela! Trump could care less about the US or Venezuela. This was good for Trump's ego, his political priorities and wallet. Venezuela will return to a hot mess of a leaderless country - cause if you think Maria Noble Prize winner gets to lead it I have some ice to sell you - Trump needs someone he can push around to "be in control" but of course it's Trump that heads up that country now. Venezuela may be rid of Maduro but all that means is they have US running it, no longer a sovereign independent country of their own. You bet that anything financially viable will be robbed from Venezuela.

I understand why everyone from that country is happy but they are too emotional to see the big pic. I have expectations that a non Venezuelan is a bit more clear headed?

Give them a month or so and they will hate the US even more than all the other countries in the world...

I am bookmarking this so I can come back and say I told you so.
You are clueless and so biased that you cannot see the reality here.
It will take time, but Venezuela will return to a vibrant, free nation in the not too distant future. They will have FAIR and FREE elections and choose someone who will lead them on a path to prosperity.
Maduro is responsible for the deaths of Americans and Venezuelan citizens. His reign has caused over 7 million Venezuelans to flee their country - many coming to the US. So, yes - he has had a direct impact on our country. He sold diplomatic passports to drug lords so they could import drugs with very little accountability.
It was just a couple years ago that DEMOCRAT politicians were calling for the ouster of Maduro. But, since it was Trump that got it done, they are complaining. So damned predictable.

DP

GMAFB

Trump violated international law. No, I don't want a world where the US president can unilaterally decide to invade another country and arrest its leader. How many more people have to die and trillions be spent on "regime change" that just results in more instability and violence before people understand this is at best a fool's errand but more likely a deadly and expensive quagmire that will benefit some very rich people while American taxpayers and kids in the military pay the price.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

You are on a fool if you think this was about anything but Venezuela! Trump could care less about the US or Venezuela. This was good for Trump's ego, his political priorities and wallet. Venezuela will return to a hot mess of a leaderless country - cause if you think Maria Noble Prize winner gets to lead it I have some ice to sell you - Trump needs someone he can push around to "be in control" but of course it's Trump that heads up that country now. Venezuela may be rid of Maduro but all that means is they have US running it, no longer a sovereign independent country of their own. You bet that anything financially viable will be robbed from Venezuela.

I understand why everyone from that country is happy but they are too emotional to see the big pic. I have expectations that a non Venezuelan is a bit more clear headed?

Give them a month or so and they will hate the US even more than all the other countries in the world...

I am bookmarking this so I can come back and say I told you so.
You are clueless and so biased that you cannot see the reality here.
It will take time, but Venezuela will return to a vibrant, free nation in the not too distant future. They will have FAIR and FREE elections and choose someone who will lead them on a path to prosperity.
Maduro is responsible for the deaths of Americans and Venezuelan citizens. His reign has caused over 7 million Venezuelans to flee their country - many coming to the US. So, yes - he has had a direct impact on our country. He sold diplomatic passports to drug lords so they could import drugs with very little accountability.
It was just a couple years ago that DEMOCRAT politicians were calling for the ouster of Maduro. But, since it was Trump that got it done, they are complaining. So damned predictable.

Not going to happen. I’ll be back to say I told you so. Name one thing Trump has accomplished successfully. Name one country where US meddling has resulted in betterment for the citizens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

You are on a fool if you think this was about anything but Venezuela! Trump could care less about the US or Venezuela. This was good for Trump's ego, his political priorities and wallet. Venezuela will return to a hot mess of a leaderless country - cause if you think Maria Noble Prize winner gets to lead it I have some ice to sell you - Trump needs someone he can push around to "be in control" but of course it's Trump that heads up that country now. Venezuela may be rid of Maduro but all that means is they have US running it, no longer a sovereign independent country of their own. You bet that anything financially viable will be robbed from Venezuela.

I understand why everyone from that country is happy but they are too emotional to see the big pic. I have expectations that a non Venezuelan is a bit more clear headed?

Give them a month or so and they will hate the US even more than all the other countries in the world...

I am bookmarking this so I can come back and say I told you so.
You are clueless and so biased that you cannot see the reality here.
It will take time, but Venezuela will return to a vibrant, free nation in the not too distant future. They will have FAIR and FREE elections and choose someone who will lead them on a path to prosperity.
Maduro is responsible for the deaths of Americans and Venezuelan citizens. His reign has caused over 7 million Venezuelans to flee their country - many coming to the US. So, yes - he has had a direct impact on our country. He sold diplomatic passports to drug lords so they could import drugs with very little accountability.
It was just a couple years ago that DEMOCRAT politicians were calling for the ouster of Maduro. But, since it was Trump that got it done, they are complaining. So damned predictable.

Not going to happen. I’ll be back to say I told you so. Name one thing Trump has accomplished successfully. Name one country where US meddling has resulted in betterment for the citizens.

DP. Panama seems like an obvious example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are wasting your breath on DCUM’s rich white progressives.

Rich white progressives = people that understand things, I guess.

lol or so privileged that they only care about showing their fake outrage and hatred for Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are wasting your breath on DCUM’s rich white progressives.

Rich white progressives = people that understand things, I guess.

lol or so privileged that they only care about showing their fake outrage and hatred for Trump.

No, the outrage is real.

Also, there are huge protests going on in Venezuela right now. This entire thread was pro Trump propaganda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

You are on a fool if you think this was about anything but Venezuela! Trump could care less about the US or Venezuela. This was good for Trump's ego, his political priorities and wallet. Venezuela will return to a hot mess of a leaderless country - cause if you think Maria Noble Prize winner gets to lead it I have some ice to sell you - Trump needs someone he can push around to "be in control" but of course it's Trump that heads up that country now. Venezuela may be rid of Maduro but all that means is they have US running it, no longer a sovereign independent country of their own. You bet that anything financially viable will be robbed from Venezuela.

I understand why everyone from that country is happy but they are too emotional to see the big pic. I have expectations that a non Venezuelan is a bit more clear headed?

Give them a month or so and they will hate the US even more than all the other countries in the world...

I am bookmarking this so I can come back and say I told you so.
You are clueless and so biased that you cannot see the reality here.
It will take time, but Venezuela will return to a vibrant, free nation in the not too distant future. They will have FAIR and FREE elections and choose someone who will lead them on a path to prosperity.
Maduro is responsible for the deaths of Americans and Venezuelan citizens. His reign has caused over 7 million Venezuelans to flee their country - many coming to the US. So, yes - he has had a direct impact on our country. He sold diplomatic passports to drug lords so they could import drugs with very little accountability.
It was just a couple years ago that DEMOCRAT politicians were calling for the ouster of Maduro. But, since it was Trump that got it done, they are complaining. So damned predictable.

Not going to happen. I’ll be back to say I told you so. Name one thing Trump has accomplished successfully. Name one country where US meddling has resulted in betterment for the citizens.

DP. Panama seems like an obvious example.

Might want to talk to the people of Panama. They hate the US. Also Panama was taken from Columbia so we could build the canal and we just took that land with no compensation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

You are on a fool if you think this was about anything but Venezuela! Trump could care less about the US or Venezuela. This was good for Trump's ego, his political priorities and wallet. Venezuela will return to a hot mess of a leaderless country - cause if you think Maria Noble Prize winner gets to lead it I have some ice to sell you - Trump needs someone he can push around to "be in control" but of course it's Trump that heads up that country now. Venezuela may be rid of Maduro but all that means is they have US running it, no longer a sovereign independent country of their own. You bet that anything financially viable will be robbed from Venezuela.

I understand why everyone from that country is happy but they are too emotional to see the big pic. I have expectations that a non Venezuelan is a bit more clear headed?

Give them a month or so and they will hate the US even more than all the other countries in the world...

I am bookmarking this so I can come back and say I told you so.
You are clueless and so biased that you cannot see the reality here.
It will take time, but Venezuela will return to a vibrant, free nation in the not too distant future. They will have FAIR and FREE elections and choose someone who will lead them on a path to prosperity.
Maduro is responsible for the deaths of Americans and Venezuelan citizens. His reign has caused over 7 million Venezuelans to flee their country - many coming to the US. So, yes - he has had a direct impact on our country. He sold diplomatic passports to drug lords so they could import drugs with very little accountability.
It was just a couple years ago that DEMOCRAT politicians were calling for the ouster of Maduro. But, since it was Trump that got it done, they are complaining. So damned predictable.

Not going to happen. I’ll be back to say I told you so. Name one thing Trump has accomplished successfully. Name one country where US meddling has resulted in betterment for the citizens.

DP. Panama seems like an obvious example.

NP. There’s no guarantee that Venezuela will follow the Panama pattern of relative stability. It could go the other way and follow the Iraq or Libya pattern. Venezuela after all is much larger, both geographically and in terms of population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

Did you get all of your scripted talking points in?

It’s still illegal and you still have no proof of anything you’ve said, BTW.

Tell us exactly what is illegal about his arrest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

You are on a fool if you think this was about anything but Venezuela! Trump could care less about the US or Venezuela. This was good for Trump's ego, his political priorities and wallet. Venezuela will return to a hot mess of a leaderless country - cause if you think Maria Noble Prize winner gets to lead it I have some ice to sell you - Trump needs someone he can push around to "be in control" but of course it's Trump that heads up that country now. Venezuela may be rid of Maduro but all that means is they have US running it, no longer a sovereign independent country of their own. You bet that anything financially viable will be robbed from Venezuela.

I understand why everyone from that country is happy but they are too emotional to see the big pic. I have expectations that a non Venezuelan is a bit more clear headed?

Give them a month or so and they will hate the US even more than all the other countries in the world...

I am bookmarking this so I can come back and say I told you so.
You are clueless and so biased that you cannot see the reality here.
It will take time, but Venezuela will return to a vibrant, free nation in the not too distant future. They will have FAIR and FREE elections and choose someone who will lead them on a path to prosperity.
Maduro is responsible for the deaths of Americans and Venezuelan citizens. His reign has caused over 7 million Venezuelans to flee their country - many coming to the US. So, yes - he has had a direct impact on our country. He sold diplomatic passports to drug lords so they could import drugs with very little accountability.
It was just a couple years ago that DEMOCRAT politicians were calling for the ouster of Maduro. But, since it was Trump that got it done, they are complaining. So damned predictable.

DP

GMAFB

Trump violated international law. No, I don't want a world where the US president can unilaterally decide to invade another country and arrest its leader. How many more people have to die and trillions be spent on "regime change" that just results in more instability and violence before people understand this is at best a fool's errand but more likely a deadly and expensive quagmire that will benefit some very rich people while American taxpayers and kids in the military pay the price.

Violated international law? Go call the police.
He was not the elected leader of Venezuela. I assume you know that. He was a wanted criminal - now he is a captured criminal.
When Biden upped the bounty for his arrest to $25 million do you think that was just so they could plaster some posters around knowing that nothing would ever happen? Maybe that was the case under Biden.....

And, as for your claim of "regime change," watch this.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

You are on a fool if you think this was about anything but Venezuela! Trump could care less about the US or Venezuela. This was good for Trump's ego, his political priorities and wallet. Venezuela will return to a hot mess of a leaderless country - cause if you think Maria Noble Prize winner gets to lead it I have some ice to sell you - Trump needs someone he can push around to "be in control" but of course it's Trump that heads up that country now. Venezuela may be rid of Maduro but all that means is they have US running it, no longer a sovereign independent country of their own. You bet that anything financially viable will be robbed from Venezuela.

I understand why everyone from that country is happy but they are too emotional to see the big pic. I have expectations that a non Venezuelan is a bit more clear headed?

Give them a month or so and they will hate the US even more than all the other countries in the world...

I am bookmarking this so I can come back and say I told you so.
You are clueless and so biased that you cannot see the reality here.
It will take time, but Venezuela will return to a vibrant, free nation in the not too distant future. They will have FAIR and FREE elections and choose someone who will lead them on a path to prosperity.
Maduro is responsible for the deaths of Americans and Venezuelan citizens. His reign has caused over 7 million Venezuelans to flee their country - many coming to the US. So, yes - he has had a direct impact on our country. He sold diplomatic passports to drug lords so they could import drugs with very little accountability.
It was just a couple years ago that DEMOCRAT politicians were calling for the ouster of Maduro. But, since it was Trump that got it done, they are complaining. So damned predictable.

Not going to happen. I’ll be back to say I told you so. Name one thing Trump has accomplished successfully. Name one country where US meddling has resulted in betterment for the citizens.

DP. Panama seems like an obvious example.

Might want to talk to the people of Panama. They hate the US. Also Panama was taken from Columbia so we could build the canal and we just took that land with no compensation.

Non responsive.

Panama’s citizens are objectively better off than they were before US deposed Noriega.

Not saying that will happen in Venezuela, but it is clearly a case where US intervention produced an objectively positive outcome.

Could go either way, but it’s silly to say “intervention never works”. Sometimes it does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

You are on a fool if you think this was about anything but Venezuela! Trump could care less about the US or Venezuela. This was good for Trump's ego, his political priorities and wallet. Venezuela will return to a hot mess of a leaderless country - cause if you think Maria Noble Prize winner gets to lead it I have some ice to sell you - Trump needs someone he can push around to "be in control" but of course it's Trump that heads up that country now. Venezuela may be rid of Maduro but all that means is they have US running it, no longer a sovereign independent country of their own. You bet that anything financially viable will be robbed from Venezuela.

I understand why everyone from that country is happy but they are too emotional to see the big pic. I have expectations that a non Venezuelan is a bit more clear headed?

Give them a month or so and they will hate the US even more than all the other countries in the world...

I am bookmarking this so I can come back and say I told you so.
You are clueless and so biased that you cannot see the reality here.
It will take time, but Venezuela will return to a vibrant, free nation in the not too distant future. They will have FAIR and FREE elections and choose someone who will lead them on a path to prosperity.
Maduro is responsible for the deaths of Americans and Venezuelan citizens. His reign has caused over 7 million Venezuelans to flee their country - many coming to the US. So, yes - he has had a direct impact on our country. He sold diplomatic passports to drug lords so they could import drugs with very little accountability.
It was just a couple years ago that DEMOCRAT politicians were calling for the ouster of Maduro. But, since it was Trump that got it done, they are complaining. So damned predictable.

DP

GMAFB

Trump violated international law. No, I don't want a world where the US president can unilaterally decide to invade another country and arrest its leader. How many more people have to die and trillions be spent on "regime change" that just results in more instability and violence before people understand this is at best a fool's errand but more likely a deadly and expensive quagmire that will benefit some very rich people while American taxpayers and kids in the military pay the price.

Violated international law? Go call the police.
He was not the elected leader of Venezuela. I assume you know that. He was a wanted criminal - now he is a captured criminal.
When Biden upped the bounty for his arrest to $25 million do you think that was just so they could plaster some posters around knowing that nothing would ever happen? Maybe that was the case under Biden.....

And, as for your claim of "regime change," watch this.....

We, the United States legitimatize dictatorships everyday? The only difference is that Venezuela is a weak country with a bunch of oil.

Americans don’t want another Iraq or Afghanistan. Very rarely, in our US history of intervening in Latin America has toppling a dictatorship lead to peace.

Nicaragua , El Salvador , Honduras , Guatemala , Chile and countless others would like to have a word with you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

You are on a fool if you think this was about anything but Venezuela! Trump could care less about the US or Venezuela. This was good for Trump's ego, his political priorities and wallet. Venezuela will return to a hot mess of a leaderless country - cause if you think Maria Noble Prize winner gets to lead it I have some ice to sell you - Trump needs someone he can push around to "be in control" but of course it's Trump that heads up that country now. Venezuela may be rid of Maduro but all that means is they have US running it, no longer a sovereign independent country of their own. You bet that anything financially viable will be robbed from Venezuela.

I understand why everyone from that country is happy but they are too emotional to see the big pic. I have expectations that a non Venezuelan is a bit more clear headed?

Give them a month or so and they will hate the US even more than all the other countries in the world...

I am bookmarking this so I can come back and say I told you so.
You are clueless and so biased that you cannot see the reality here.
It will take time, but Venezuela will return to a vibrant, free nation in the not too distant future. They will have FAIR and FREE elections and choose someone who will lead them on a path to prosperity.
Maduro is responsible for the deaths of Americans and Venezuelan citizens. His reign has caused over 7 million Venezuelans to flee their country - many coming to the US. So, yes - he has had a direct impact on our country. He sold diplomatic passports to drug lords so they could import drugs with very little accountability.
It was just a couple years ago that DEMOCRAT politicians were calling for the ouster of Maduro. But, since it was Trump that got it done, they are complaining. So damned predictable.

DP

GMAFB

Trump violated international law. No, I don't want a world where the US president can unilaterally decide to invade another country and arrest its leader. How many more people have to die and trillions be spent on "regime change" that just results in more instability and violence before people understand this is at best a fool's errand but more likely a deadly and expensive quagmire that will benefit some very rich people while American taxpayers and kids in the military pay the price.

Violated international law? Go call the police.
He was not the elected leader of Venezuela. I assume you know that. He was a wanted criminal - now he is a captured criminal.
When Biden upped the bounty for his arrest to $25 million do you think that was just so they could plaster some posters around knowing that nothing would ever happen? Maybe that was the case under Biden.....

And, as for your claim of "regime change," watch this.....

You kidnapped him and you refuse to allow the person who won the election to hold power. Biden actions were to restore democracy. Trump and republicans are just doing this for personal gain wealth.


Shocker you would post a tweet from a Zionist as your justification the stealing of someone else’s land and resources!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

You are on a fool if you think this was about anything but Venezuela! Trump could care less about the US or Venezuela. This was good for Trump's ego, his political priorities and wallet. Venezuela will return to a hot mess of a leaderless country - cause if you think Maria Noble Prize winner gets to lead it I have some ice to sell you - Trump needs someone he can push around to "be in control" but of course it's Trump that heads up that country now. Venezuela may be rid of Maduro but all that means is they have US running it, no longer a sovereign independent country of their own. You bet that anything financially viable will be robbed from Venezuela.

I understand why everyone from that country is happy but they are too emotional to see the big pic. I have expectations that a non Venezuelan is a bit more clear headed?

Give them a month or so and they will hate the US even more than all the other countries in the world...

I am bookmarking this so I can come back and say I told you so.
You are clueless and so biased that you cannot see the reality here.
It will take time, but Venezuela will return to a vibrant, free nation in the not too distant future. They will have FAIR and FREE elections and choose someone who will lead them on a path to prosperity.
Maduro is responsible for the deaths of Americans and Venezuelan citizens. His reign has caused over 7 million Venezuelans to flee their country - many coming to the US. So, yes - he has had a direct impact on our country. He sold diplomatic passports to drug lords so they could import drugs with very little accountability.
It was just a couple years ago that DEMOCRAT politicians were calling for the ouster of Maduro. But, since it was Trump that got it done, they are complaining. So damned predictable.

DP

GMAFB

Trump violated international law. No, I don't want a world where the US president can unilaterally decide to invade another country and arrest its leader. How many more people have to die and trillions be spent on "regime change" that just results in more instability and violence before people understand this is at best a fool's errand but more likely a deadly and expensive quagmire that will benefit some very rich people while American taxpayers and kids in the military pay the price.

Violated international law? Go call the police.
He was not the elected leader of Venezuela. I assume you know that. He was a wanted criminal - now he is a captured criminal.
When Biden upped the bounty for his arrest to $25 million do you think that was just so they could plaster some posters around knowing that nothing would ever happen? Maybe that was the case under Biden.....

And, as for your claim of "regime change," watch this.....

You kidnapped him and you refuse to allow the person who won the election to hold power. Biden actions were to restore democracy. Trump and republicans are just doing this for personal gain wealth.


Shocker you would post a tweet from a Zionist as your justification the stealing of someone else’s land and resources!

Good grief. This one word explains your post.
Don't you have a protest to attend? Don't forget to don your keffiyeh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

You are on a fool if you think this was about anything but Venezuela! Trump could care less about the US or Venezuela. This was good for Trump's ego, his political priorities and wallet. Venezuela will return to a hot mess of a leaderless country - cause if you think Maria Noble Prize winner gets to lead it I have some ice to sell you - Trump needs someone he can push around to "be in control" but of course it's Trump that heads up that country now. Venezuela may be rid of Maduro but all that means is they have US running it, no longer a sovereign independent country of their own. You bet that anything financially viable will be robbed from Venezuela.

I understand why everyone from that country is happy but they are too emotional to see the big pic. I have expectations that a non Venezuelan is a bit more clear headed?

Give them a month or so and they will hate the US even more than all the other countries in the world...

I am bookmarking this so I can come back and say I told you so.
You are clueless and so biased that you cannot see the reality here.
It will take time, but Venezuela will return to a vibrant, free nation in the not too distant future. They will have FAIR and FREE elections and choose someone who will lead them on a path to prosperity.
Maduro is responsible for the deaths of Americans and Venezuelan citizens. His reign has caused over 7 million Venezuelans to flee their country - many coming to the US. So, yes - he has had a direct impact on our country. He sold diplomatic passports to drug lords so they could import drugs with very little accountability.
It was just a couple years ago that DEMOCRAT politicians were calling for the ouster of Maduro. But, since it was Trump that got it done, they are complaining. So damned predictable.

DP. This is a crazy statement. Maduro’s people are still in control of Venezuela and the Republicans have said there will be no elections in Venezuela. This is about exploiting the natural resources of Venezuela by Trump and republicans for personal gain.

At some point you actually have to listen to what the republicans say and base things on their actions not your fantasy world.

Prove me wrong bro.

You need to provide a citation for this statement. Good luck finding one since it is not true.

[Anonymous]

As someone who has no family ties to Venezuela, America First was the only good thing about the Republican party.