Posting as someone with direct family ties to Venezuela.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you are wasting your breath on DCUM’s rich white progressives.

Rich white progressives = people that understand things, I guess.

lol or so privileged that they only care about showing their fake outrage and hatred for Trump.

BOT

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Anonymous wrote:My wife is Venezuelan. She desperately wants to be able to go back someday—to visit safely, to see family, to recognize her own country again. Right now, that’s not possible. Much of her family is current or former military, and they want exactly what civilians want: freedom from an oppressive regime that destroyed their country from the inside.

She does not like Trump. Let’s get that out of the way. But let’s also stop pretending Venezuela is a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s not.

Under Maduro, people were run over by armored vehicles. Protesters were shot. Elections were a farce. The country became a narco-state while ordinary people starved or fled. That reality didn’t change depending on who was in the White House.

And for those suddenly clutching pearls about U.S. involvement—Biden continued dealings with Venezuelan oil despite repeated warnings from human-rights organizations. So please spare us the selective outrage.

China and Iran didn’t embed themselves in Venezuela out of goodwill. They wanted oil, minerals, leverage. Everyone knows this. Acting shocked now is disingenuous.

Here’s what’s missing from most of these takes: the majority of Venezuelans want the regime gone, even if that comes with hard compromises. They understand the cost because they’ve already paid it.

This isn’t about loving Trump.
It’s about wanting Venezuela back.

Thanks for your post, OP. Yes - it seems that nearly all of those protesting the arrest of Maduro are NOT from Venezuela, have no ties to Venezuela, and know nothing of the horrible conditions in which the Venezuelan people have been forced to live.

This is good for Venezuela, good for the US, and good for the whole region.
Venezuela deserves to return to the beautiful, free country it once was. That is not possible under Maduro.

You are on a fool if you think this was about anything but Venezuela! Trump could care less about the US or Venezuela. This was good for Trump's ego, his political priorities and wallet. Venezuela will return to a hot mess of a leaderless country - cause if you think Maria Noble Prize winner gets to lead it I have some ice to sell you - Trump needs someone he can push around to "be in control" but of course it's Trump that heads up that country now. Venezuela may be rid of Maduro but all that means is they have US running it, no longer a sovereign independent country of their own. You bet that anything financially viable will be robbed from Venezuela.

I understand why everyone from that country is happy but they are too emotional to see the big pic. I have expectations that a non Venezuelan is a bit more clear headed?

Give them a month or so and they will hate the US even more than all the other countries in the world...

I am bookmarking this so I can come back and say I told you so.
You are clueless and so biased that you cannot see the reality here.
It will take time, but Venezuela will return to a vibrant, free nation in the not too distant future. They will have FAIR and FREE elections and choose someone who will lead them on a path to prosperity.
Maduro is responsible for the deaths of Americans and Venezuelan citizens. His reign has caused over 7 million Venezuelans to flee their country - many coming to the US. So, yes - he has had a direct impact on our country. He sold diplomatic passports to drug lords so they could import drugs with very little accountability.
It was just a couple years ago that DEMOCRAT politicians were calling for the ouster of Maduro. But, since it was Trump that got it done, they are complaining. So damned predictable.

Not going to happen. I’ll be back to say I told you so. Name one thing Trump has accomplished successfully. Name one country where US meddling has resulted in betterment for the citizens.

DP. Panama seems like an obvious example.

Might want to talk to the people of Panama. They hate the US. Also Panama was taken from Columbia so we could build the canal and we just took that land with no compensation.

Non responsive.

Panama’s citizens are objectively better off than they were before US deposed Noriega.

Not saying that will happen in Venezuela, but it is clearly a case where US intervention produced an objectively positive outcome.

Could go either way, but it’s silly to say “intervention never works”. Sometimes it does.

Germans all agree they are better off since the U.S. deposed Hitler.

The only people defending Nicolás Maduro are liberal democrats.

People aren't defending Maduro. They're defending Venezuela's right to keep their own oil as a people, rather than have the US unilaterally impose regime change and say they'll take over their oil fields. Because that's what borders and national sovereignty are about. Hitler was "deposed" by the USA because he allied with Japan who bombed the USA, and because he invaded several countries and didn't respect their borders.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you are wasting your breath on DCUM’s rich white progressives.

Rich white progressives = people that understand things, I guess.

Rich white progressives love to tell brown people how to think.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who has no family ties to Venezuela, America First was the only good thing about the Republican party.

Starting wars with other countries isn't America first.

Now you are starting to get it...

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What’s honestly sickening to me is how tribal this has become.

So many people are reacting based on who they think they’re supposed to hate or defend, not on what Venezuelans have actually lived through. If your family had been there—if you’d watched them lose everything, if you’d worried daily about their safety, if you’d lived under that level of oppression—you would not be treating this like a thought experiment or a team sport.

For years, we’ve been sending remittances—boxes of food, medicine, money—just so family members could survive. Not thrive. Survive. That’s the reality people gloss over while posting hot takes from the comfort of their homes.

This outrage feels hollow when it ignores the human cost. When it erases the people who were beaten, silenced, imprisoned, or forced to flee. When it pretends moral purity matters more than ending suffering.

If this were about your parents, your siblings, your cousins living under that system, your tone would be very different.

This isn’t about left or right.
It’s about people who want their country—and their dignity—back.

Tribalism has rotted the conversation. And watching people minimize real pain because it doesn’t fit their politics is heartbreaking.

Why didn't your wife's family get out of Venezuela with all the other Venezuelans who fled to the US and ask for political asylum?

She was an asylum seeker.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who has no family ties to Venezuela, America First was the only good thing about the Republican party.

Starting wars with other countries isn't America first.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who has no family ties to Venezuela, America First was the only good thing about the Republican party.

Starting wars with other countries isn't America first.

So many misunderstood trump and his "America First" promise. What trump meant was that he would fleece the US TREASURY First and then use blackmail and US armed forces to kidnap foreign leaders and sell pardons for a minimum of $100,000,000.

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Fake AI pro-Trump Venezuela rallies. Literally no one in the world supports Chump and his mercenaries except the 30% of nimrods in America who still support him plus Israel and its 80% of Israelis that support genocide.

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My question--

How many people in the world don't like the govt they're stuck with? And if you think another country should rescue them, what should be the basis for picking the countries to rescue? In one site I looked at which rates countries by their "freedom" score, Venezuela's score was not great--but there were 28 countries (including Russia, and a separate entry for Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine) with worse scores.

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Anonymous wrote:Fake AI pro-Trump Venezuela rallies. Literally no one in the world supports Chump and his mercenaries except the 30% of nimrods in America who still support him plus Israel and its 80% of Israelis that support genocide.

I appreciated this, and it was interesting that the expat Venezuelans have a different view than those inside the country. Makes me think of the rich Iranians who fled when the Shah was deposed, especially those who had close ties to him. I also wonder what Venezuelans without means who migrated to the US (who still have to fear ICE, and may include those from areas of the country Madura wasn't even able to control) think of it all.

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“If we try to fight in every revolution in the world, we never stop. Where do we draw the line?”

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Anonymous wrote:“If we try to fight in every revolution in the world, we never stop. Where do we draw the line?”

Apparently Trump only fights revolutions where he and his cronies can stand to benefit financially. The Donroe Doctrine.

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Anonymous wrote:My question--

How many people in the world don't like the govt they're stuck with? And if you think another country should rescue them, what should be the basis for picking the countries to rescue? In one site I looked at which rates countries by their "freedom" score, Venezuela's score was not great--but there were 28 countries (including Russia, and a separate entry for Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine) with worse scores.

I’m definitely unhappy with the government I’mstuck with. Will no one help with this meddlesome tyrant? I wouldn’t mind if someone captured and put him on trial in their country!

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Hang on. Are these posters here who still think this is not about oil? Trump has been abundantly clear since the weekend that this is about oil. Like, no one is pretending it's not.

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I think Maduro is shitty, I think Trump is shitty but I'm also hoping this is a wake-up call for the rest of the shitty Latin American leaders (and others elsewhere) to get their shit together.