Trump fires commissioner of labor statistics to be fired after weak jobs figures

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like the right move. Market show their approval today. Stock market way up!

That was not based on their approval. Listened to the WSJ podcast this morning. Their is fear that US data will no longer be trusted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The WSJ editorial board weighs in:

“…the BLS job revisions are best explained by a decline in business response rates, not political bias. The reality of slowing job growth is clear to anyone paying attention, no matter the official statistics. Mr. Trump’s data denial is one more reason fewer Americans will trust the government.”

This is true - rare from the WSJ editorial board. Survey response rates have plummeted since Covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have already passed the point of no return. It will be sometime after my life that the US may have a reliable government and government data again, but it won't be while I am still walking this earth.

Sad.

Agree. But there is hope. Germany recovered fairly quickly from Hitler who was in absolute power from 1933 to 1945. That's 12 years. Trump has only had "absolute power" since Jan. 20, 2025. He is out of office in Jan. '29 and there are a few GOP members of the House and Senate are finally showing some guts!
The Epstein scandal is not going away and is his doom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rubio to the Rescue. There is no better or more obedient toadie.

He has no background in statistics and cannot run BLS.

He will run it just like trumpy wants it....filled with fictional numbers that will praise the king. America WAKE UP!

+1 Is Allen Weisselberg out of jail yet? He could do it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The WSJ editorial board weighs in:

“…the BLS job revisions are best explained by a decline in business response rates, not political bias. The reality of slowing job growth is clear to anyone paying attention, no matter the official statistics. Mr. Trump’s data denial is one more reason fewer Americans will trust the government.”

This is true - rare from the WSJ editorial board. Survey response rates have plummeted since Covid.

A 40% response rate should be more than sufficient, unless the decline is due to some other bias. All sorts of government projections have become much worse since COVID, so the citation of that decline, without more, is just silly anti-Trump nonsense from the Never-Trumpers as the WSJ.

Imagine being a college graduate and thinking that change in response rate alone is persuasive. I know you don't need to be numerate to get a college degree, but really, that's just sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this the same person whose estimates under Biden had to be consistently downgraded after the fact? Honest mistakes go in both directions. A pattern of mistakes to benefit a political party shows a lack of honesty.

Good riddance.

You realize there are hundreds of people who are involved in these numbers, right? She signs off on it. Do you really think hundreds if people are conspiring to falsify his job numbers?

[Anonymous]

Believe nothing coming out of this administration.

Europe no longer relying on US science. https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/europe-is-breaking-its-reliance-american-science-2025-08-01/

If things don’t change very, very soon we’re effed. (Paul Krugmsm just wrote that he won’t see the wreckage from these 6 months repaired in his lifetime.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have already passed the point of no return. It will be sometime after my life that the US may have a reliable government and government data again, but it won't be while I am still walking this earth.

Sad.

Agree. But there is hope. Germany recovered fairly quickly from Hitler who was in absolute power from 1933 to 1945. That's 12 years. Trump has only had "absolute power" since Jan. 20, 2025. He is out of office in Jan. '29 and there are a few GOP members of the House and Senate are finally showing some guts!
The Epstein scandal is not going away and is his doom.

Yes, but Germany in 1945 had suffered millions of deaths and massive destruction of its cities. There were very few Germans who would openly praise Hitler at the end of WWII. I hope that the US does not need to suffer the same level of destruction for the MAGA cult to turn away from its leader.

[Anonymous]

This right here. What Trump did was shoot the messenger.

https://bsky.app/profile/gtconway.bsky.social/post/3lviqoo4e422p

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSJ editorial board weighs in:

“…the BLS job revisions are best explained by a decline in business response rates, not political bias. The reality of slowing job growth is clear to anyone paying attention, no matter the official statistics. Mr. Trump’s data denial is one more reason fewer Americans will trust the government.”

This is true - rare from the WSJ editorial board. Survey response rates have plummeted since Covid.

A 40% response rate should be more than sufficient, unless the decline is due to some other bias. All sorts of government projections have become much worse since COVID, so the citation of that decline, without more, is just silly anti-Trump nonsense from the Never-Trumpers as the WSJ.

Imagine being a college graduate and thinking that change in response rate alone is persuasive. I know you don't need to be numerate to get a college degree, but really, that's just sad.

Why should it be sufficient? Can you provide us your insight on how the model works?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have already passed the point of no return. It will be sometime after my life that the US may have a reliable government and government data again, but it won't be while I am still walking this earth.

Sad.

Agree. But there is hope. Germany recovered fairly quickly from Hitler who was in absolute power from 1933 to 1945. That's 12 years. Trump has only had "absolute power" since Jan. 20, 2025. He is out of office in Jan. '29 and there are a few GOP members of the House and Senate are finally showing some guts!
The Epstein scandal is not going away and is his doom.

Yes, but Germany in 1945 had suffered millions of deaths and massive destruction of its cities. There were very few Germans who would openly praise Hitler at the end of WWII. I hope that the US does not need to suffer the same level of destruction for the MAGA cult to turn away from its leader.

Me too, but if it does it does. Better that than let the MAGAs destroy the country completely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Believe nothing coming out of this administration.

Europe no longer relying on US science. https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/europe-is-breaking-its-reliance-american-science-2025-08-01/

If things don’t change very, very soon we’re effed. (Paul Krugmsm just wrote that he won’t see the wreckage from these 6 months repaired in his lifetime.)

And they are aggressively hiring all the government scientist Trump fired. They would gain all that knowledge and experience upfront. Our self-inflicted loss. EU's enormous gain.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the same person whose estimates under Biden had to be consistently downgraded after the fact? Honest mistakes go in both directions. A pattern of mistakes to benefit a political party shows a lack of honesty.

Good riddance.

??? Didn't Trump politically benefit from his inflated numbers over the summer? Then the numbers were downgraded once more data came in? You need to take another shot at your propaganda point I think. I appreciate you're all still working out the kinks on it, though.

That may be the case--I don't know. If so, the person is incompetent for a systemically broken methodology and I continue to say good riddance.

How do you not know? That's why Trump is incessantly whining right now and fired her. How are you opining on any of this if you don't know any of the facts?

Were you aware of the absurd pattern under Biden? I only know about it because it went on for so long that it was unavoidable. Trump hasn't been POTUS long enough for the same pattern to be revealed.

I don't know because I need a bigger sample. Unlike you, I am driven by the data, not politics. I am waiting to see if the pattern persists. I'll check back in once Trump has been in office for 18 months. Until then, it's premature.

Do you even understand these surveys and why revisions exist? Because it doesn’t seem like you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like the right move. Market show their approval today. Stock market way up!

The stock market is not the economy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSJ editorial board weighs in:

“…the BLS job revisions are best explained by a decline in business response rates, not political bias. The reality of slowing job growth is clear to anyone paying attention, no matter the official statistics. Mr. Trump’s data denial is one more reason fewer Americans will trust the government.”

This is true - rare from the WSJ editorial board. Survey response rates have plummeted since Covid.

A 40% response rate should be more than sufficient, unless the decline is due to some other bias. All sorts of government projections have become much worse since COVID, so the citation of that decline, without more, is just silly anti-Trump nonsense from the Never-Trumpers as the WSJ.

Imagine being a college graduate and thinking that change in response rate alone is persuasive. I know you don't need to be numerate to get a college degree, but really, that's just sad.

What's your background and experience in this field