which club will leave ECNL next

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington and VDA face the “prisoner’s dilemma”. They don’t want to be stuck as the only decent ECNL club in NOVA (FVU may still be flailing around), because it would be the death knell for their boys program. If they don’t jump first, the opportunity might evaporate.

It's a big advantage to being the only ECNL team in an area -- you'll dominate recruiting where the have a much better chance at forming super teams to compete nationally. While it certainly means more on the girls side, it'll likely a pretty decent option for boys, too.

VDA already competes nationally on both the girls and boys side too. As does Arlington. Not sure what good switching does for either of them. None of their girls want to be GA and Next is so watered down in the area with all the recent additions that it’s not all that attractive either for their boys- most of who play HS and earn all the local accolades. My sense is they will stay put while they see how this little experiment plays out. No reason for either club to depart at this stage when they hold the cards with sound funding, strong competitive teams on girls and boys side and academy/college placement that is superior to many in the area… .

You, it is very evident, don’t know much about the boys side in this area.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Look closer at mid to lower tier ECRL clubs if you are trying to figure out who would switch. Like one sliding to MLSN2/Ga makes more sense.

MLSN is trying to build out MLSN2 not oversaturate MLSN even more.

So, speaking strictly about the boys side, it was a big demotion for Loudoun to switch to MLS Next?

Their top 2 directors have high-level daughters and, even though they knew switching would have an immediate negative impact on the girls side, they knew they had to make that move. If MLS Next won’t offer VDA or Arl a seat at the big kids table (ie only MLSN 2) yes that would be a demotion and agree they certainly wouldn’t switch.

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Arlington and VDA will both leave ECNL, that is all there is to comprehend.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Sorry, girl Dad, not when the boys side is added to the equation. Don’t let the VDA social media machine fool you, they’ve consistently been losing talent to SYC and now NVA on the boys side.

If your boy is at VDA and you want MLSN, are you sure that they won't demote your boy to MLSN2 if they get it also or lower and bring in better players? With this as a reasonable likely scenario, I would think you best hope is for them to stay ECNL.

Ok, I see. Don't join the best league in fear your kid can't compete with the best so hold all the other kids back. Wow, just wow.

Ok, why didn't VDA or Arlington switch leagues last year? Or the year before?

One of the 2 tried but were denied

There you go, nobody leaving.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington and VDA face the “prisoner’s dilemma”. They don’t want to be stuck as the only decent ECNL club in NOVA (FVU may still be flailing around), because it would be the death knell for their boys program. If they don’t jump first, the opportunity might evaporate.

It's a big advantage to being the only ECNL team in an area -- you'll dominate recruiting where the have a much better chance at forming super teams to compete nationally. While it certainly means more on the girls side, it'll likely a pretty decent option for boys, too.

VDA already competes nationally on both the girls and boys side too. As does Arlington. Not sure what good switching does for either of them. None of their girls want to be GA and Next is so watered down in the area with all the recent additions that it’s not all that attractive either for their boys- most of who play HS and earn all the local accolades. My sense is they will stay put while they see how this little experiment plays out. No reason for either club to depart at this stage when they hold the cards with sound funding, strong competitive teams on girls and boys side and academy/college placement that is superior to many in the area… .

You, it is very evident, don’t know much about the boys side in this area.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Look closer at mid to lower tier ECRL clubs if you are trying to figure out who would switch. Like one sliding to MLSN2/Ga makes more sense.

MLSN is trying to build out MLSN2 not oversaturate MLSN even more.

So, speaking strictly about the boys side, it was a big demotion for Loudoun to switch to MLS Next?

Their top 2 directors have high-level daughters and, even though they knew switching would have an immediate negative impact on the girls side, they knew they had to make that move. If MLS Next won’t offer VDA or Arl a seat at the big kids table (ie only MLSN 2) yes that would be a demotion and agree they certainly wouldn’t switch.

So reading comprehension issues?

Arlington and VDA will both leave ECNL, that is all there is to comprehend.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Sorry, girl Dad, not when the boys side is added to the equation. Don’t let the VDA social media machine fool you, they’ve consistently been losing talent to SYC and now NVA on the boys side.

Honestly, Bethedsa is the only MLS DMV team near the level of Arlington or VDA. There is a reason that the MLS academy scouts were out in force in Seattle. The talent is better.

Someone needs to lay off the crack pipe. VDA, Arlington, Richmond and some team in NC are the only decent teams in the mid mid-Atlantic region. All got stomped in Seattle.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington and VDA face the “prisoner’s dilemma”. They don’t want to be stuck as the only decent ECNL club in NOVA (FVU may still be flailing around), because it would be the death knell for their boys program. If they don’t jump first, the opportunity might evaporate.

It's a big advantage to being the only ECNL team in an area -- you'll dominate recruiting where the have a much better chance at forming super teams to compete nationally. While it certainly means more on the girls side, it'll likely a pretty decent option for boys, too.

VDA already competes nationally on both the girls and boys side too. As does Arlington. Not sure what good switching does for either of them. None of their girls want to be GA and Next is so watered down in the area with all the recent additions that it’s not all that attractive either for their boys- most of who play HS and earn all the local accolades. My sense is they will stay put while they see how this little experiment plays out. No reason for either club to depart at this stage when they hold the cards with sound funding, strong competitive teams on girls and boys side and academy/college placement that is superior to many in the area… .

You, it is very evident, don’t know much about the boys side in this area.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Look closer at mid to lower tier ECRL clubs if you are trying to figure out who would switch. Like one sliding to MLSN2/Ga makes more sense.

MLSN is trying to build out MLSN2 not oversaturate MLSN even more.

So, speaking strictly about the boys side, it was a big demotion for Loudoun to switch to MLS Next?

Their top 2 directors have high-level daughters and, even though they knew switching would have an immediate negative impact on the girls side, they knew they had to make that move. If MLS Next won’t offer VDA or Arl a seat at the big kids table (ie only MLSN 2) yes that would be a demotion and agree they certainly wouldn’t switch.

So reading comprehension issues?

Arlington and VDA will both leave ECNL, that is all there is to comprehend.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Sorry, girl Dad, not when the boys side is added to the equation. Don’t let the VDA social media machine fool you, they’ve consistently been losing talent to SYC and now NVA on the boys side.

Honestly, Bethedsa is the only MLS DMV team near the level of Arlington or VDA. There is a reason that the MLS academy scouts were out in force in Seattle. The talent is better.

Someone needs to lay off the crack pipe. VDA, Arlington, Richmond and some team in NC are the only decent teams in the mid mid-Atlantic region. All got stomped in Seattle.

What non academy MLSN team in the Mid-Atlantic could consistently beat these teams?

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington and VDA face the “prisoner’s dilemma”. They don’t want to be stuck as the only decent ECNL club in NOVA (FVU may still be flailing around), because it would be the death knell for their boys program. If they don’t jump first, the opportunity might evaporate.

It's a big advantage to being the only ECNL team in an area -- you'll dominate recruiting where the have a much better chance at forming super teams to compete nationally. While it certainly means more on the girls side, it'll likely a pretty decent option for boys, too.

VDA already competes nationally on both the girls and boys side too. As does Arlington. Not sure what good switching does for either of them. None of their girls want to be GA and Next is so watered down in the area with all the recent additions that it’s not all that attractive either for their boys- most of who play HS and earn all the local accolades. My sense is they will stay put while they see how this little experiment plays out. No reason for either club to depart at this stage when they hold the cards with sound funding, strong competitive teams on girls and boys side and academy/college placement that is superior to many in the area… .

You, it is very evident, don’t know much about the boys side in this area.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Look closer at mid to lower tier ECRL clubs if you are trying to figure out who would switch. Like one sliding to MLSN2/Ga makes more sense.

MLSN is trying to build out MLSN2 not oversaturate MLSN even more.

So, speaking strictly about the boys side, it was a big demotion for Loudoun to switch to MLS Next?

Their top 2 directors have high-level daughters and, even though they knew switching would have an immediate negative impact on the girls side, they knew they had to make that move. If MLS Next won’t offer VDA or Arl a seat at the big kids table (ie only MLSN 2) yes that would be a demotion and agree they certainly wouldn’t switch.

So reading comprehension issues?

Arlington and VDA will both leave ECNL, that is all there is to comprehend.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Sorry, girl Dad, not when the boys side is added to the equation. Don’t let the VDA social media machine fool you, they’ve consistently been losing talent to SYC and now NVA on the boys side.

Honestly, Bethedsa is the only MLS DMV team near the level of Arlington or VDA. There is a reason that the MLS academy scouts were out in force in Seattle. The talent is better.

Someone needs to lay off the crack pipe. VDA, Arlington, Richmond and some team in NC are the only decent teams in the mid mid-Atlantic region. All got stomped in Seattle.

What non academy MLSN team in the Mid-Atlantic could consistently beat these teams?

Top half of each age group in MLSNext.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington and VDA face the “prisoner’s dilemma”. They don’t want to be stuck as the only decent ECNL club in NOVA (FVU may still be flailing around), because it would be the death knell for their boys program. If they don’t jump first, the opportunity might evaporate.

It's a big advantage to being the only ECNL team in an area -- you'll dominate recruiting where the have a much better chance at forming super teams to compete nationally. While it certainly means more on the girls side, it'll likely a pretty decent option for boys, too.

VDA already competes nationally on both the girls and boys side too. As does Arlington. Not sure what good switching does for either of them. None of their girls want to be GA and Next is so watered down in the area with all the recent additions that it’s not all that attractive either for their boys- most of who play HS and earn all the local accolades. My sense is they will stay put while they see how this little experiment plays out. No reason for either club to depart at this stage when they hold the cards with sound funding, strong competitive teams on girls and boys side and academy/college placement that is superior to many in the area… .

You, it is very evident, don’t know much about the boys side in this area.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Look closer at mid to lower tier ECRL clubs if you are trying to figure out who would switch. Like one sliding to MLSN2/Ga makes more sense.

MLSN is trying to build out MLSN2 not oversaturate MLSN even more.

So, speaking strictly about the boys side, it was a big demotion for Loudoun to switch to MLS Next?

Their top 2 directors have high-level daughters and, even though they knew switching would have an immediate negative impact on the girls side, they knew they had to make that move. If MLS Next won’t offer VDA or Arl a seat at the big kids table (ie only MLSN 2) yes that would be a demotion and agree they certainly wouldn’t switch.

So reading comprehension issues?

Arlington and VDA will both leave ECNL, that is all there is to comprehend.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Sorry, girl Dad, not when the boys side is added to the equation. Don’t let the VDA social media machine fool you, they’ve consistently been losing talent to SYC and now NVA on the boys side.

This is the issue. Do you kill the girls side to get to a better place on the boys side? It is what a club pays the leadership to decide. The boys side would be in a much better place. But make no mistake you would kill the girls side. GA is not on par with ECNL; not even close. There would be a 75% roster turnover. Now if they can fill the slots maybe they do not care. And I am sure they can fill the slots. But Arlington and VDA have had a pretty good college placement track record on the girls side. They could not replicate that in GA. The top half of the team would be fine but the real value that I have seen is that ECNL teams tend to place almost the entire team on college teams -- even bad ECNL teams. GA does not. The bottom half of the roster would be impacted. Leadership has to make a decision. I really doubt either will do this -- more money on the girls side. But if they do both will at the same time.

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Unfortunately for girls, boys side is MUCH more lucrative for clubs as they have more teams for each age.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington and VDA face the “prisoner’s dilemma”. They don’t want to be stuck as the only decent ECNL club in NOVA (FVU may still be flailing around), because it would be the death knell for their boys program. If they don’t jump first, the opportunity might evaporate.

It's a big advantage to being the only ECNL team in an area -- you'll dominate recruiting where the have a much better chance at forming super teams to compete nationally. While it certainly means more on the girls side, it'll likely a pretty decent option for boys, too.

VDA already competes nationally on both the girls and boys side too. As does Arlington. Not sure what good switching does for either of them. None of their girls want to be GA and Next is so watered down in the area with all the recent additions that it’s not all that attractive either for their boys- most of who play HS and earn all the local accolades. My sense is they will stay put while they see how this little experiment plays out. No reason for either club to depart at this stage when they hold the cards with sound funding, strong competitive teams on girls and boys side and academy/college placement that is superior to many in the area… .

You, it is very evident, don’t know much about the boys side in this area.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Look closer at mid to lower tier ECRL clubs if you are trying to figure out who would switch. Like one sliding to MLSN2/Ga makes more sense.

MLSN is trying to build out MLSN2 not oversaturate MLSN even more.

So, speaking strictly about the boys side, it was a big demotion for Loudoun to switch to MLS Next?

Their top 2 directors have high-level daughters and, even though they knew switching would have an immediate negative impact on the girls side, they knew they had to make that move. If MLS Next won’t offer VDA or Arl a seat at the big kids table (ie only MLSN 2) yes that would be a demotion and agree they certainly wouldn’t switch.

So reading comprehension issues?

Arlington and VDA will both leave ECNL, that is all there is to comprehend.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Sorry, girl Dad, not when the boys side is added to the equation. Don’t let the VDA social media machine fool you, they’ve consistently been losing talent to SYC and now NVA on the boys side.

This is the issue. Do you kill the girls side to get to a better place on the boys side? It is what a club pays the leadership to decide. The boys side would be in a much better place. But make no mistake you would kill the girls side. GA is not on par with ECNL; not even close. There would be a 75% roster turnover. Now if they can fill the slots maybe they do not care. And I am sure they can fill the slots. But Arlington and VDA have had a pretty good college placement track record on the girls side. They could not replicate that in GA. The top half of the team would be fine but the real value that I have seen is that ECNL teams tend to place almost the entire team on college teams -- even bad ECNL teams. GA does not. The bottom half of the roster would be impacted. Leadership has to make a decision. I really doubt either will do this -- more money on the girls side. But if they do both will at the same time.

Won’t take much to switch the balance of power to GA. One to two years tops. Bank on it.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington and VDA face the “prisoner’s dilemma”. They don’t want to be stuck as the only decent ECNL club in NOVA (FVU may still be flailing around), because it would be the death knell for their boys program. If they don’t jump first, the opportunity might evaporate.

It's a big advantage to being the only ECNL team in an area -- you'll dominate recruiting where the have a much better chance at forming super teams to compete nationally. While it certainly means more on the girls side, it'll likely a pretty decent option for boys, too.

VDA already competes nationally on both the girls and boys side too. As does Arlington. Not sure what good switching does for either of them. None of their girls want to be GA and Next is so watered down in the area with all the recent additions that it’s not all that attractive either for their boys- most of who play HS and earn all the local accolades. My sense is they will stay put while they see how this little experiment plays out. No reason for either club to depart at this stage when they hold the cards with sound funding, strong competitive teams on girls and boys side and academy/college placement that is superior to many in the area… .

You, it is very evident, don’t know much about the boys side in this area.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Look closer at mid to lower tier ECRL clubs if you are trying to figure out who would switch. Like one sliding to MLSN2/Ga makes more sense.

MLSN is trying to build out MLSN2 not oversaturate MLSN even more.

So, speaking strictly about the boys side, it was a big demotion for Loudoun to switch to MLS Next?

Their top 2 directors have high-level daughters and, even though they knew switching would have an immediate negative impact on the girls side, they knew they had to make that move. If MLS Next won’t offer VDA or Arl a seat at the big kids table (ie only MLSN 2) yes that would be a demotion and agree they certainly wouldn’t switch.

So reading comprehension issues?

Arlington and VDA will both leave ECNL, that is all there is to comprehend.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Sorry, girl Dad, not when the boys side is added to the equation. Don’t let the VDA social media machine fool you, they’ve consistently been losing talent to SYC and now NVA on the boys side.

This is the issue. Do you kill the girls side to get to a better place on the boys side? It is what a club pays the leadership to decide. The boys side would be in a much better place. But make no mistake you would kill the girls side. GA is not on par with ECNL; not even close. There would be a 75% roster turnover. Now if they can fill the slots maybe they do not care. And I am sure they can fill the slots. But Arlington and VDA have had a pretty good college placement track record on the girls side. They could not replicate that in GA. The top half of the team would be fine but the real value that I have seen is that ECNL teams tend to place almost the entire team on college teams -- even bad ECNL teams. GA does not. The bottom half of the roster would be impacted. Leadership has to make a decision. I really doubt either will do this -- more money on the girls side. But if they do both will at the same time.

Help me to understand how ECNL makes more money than GA for clubs. You even said it yourself that if a club switched from ECNL to GA that they could fill the spots. So I guess it comes down to ECRL? Which GA addresses with DPL and Aspire.

If you're just talking about money what it comes down to is which league has the draw to enable 3rd 4th 5th teams. MLSN does that for the boys. ECNL does not do this for the girls.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington and VDA face the “prisoner’s dilemma”. They don’t want to be stuck as the only decent ECNL club in NOVA (FVU may still be flailing around), because it would be the death knell for their boys program. If they don’t jump first, the opportunity might evaporate.

It's a big advantage to being the only ECNL team in an area -- you'll dominate recruiting where the have a much better chance at forming super teams to compete nationally. While it certainly means more on the girls side, it'll likely a pretty decent option for boys, too.

VDA already competes nationally on both the girls and boys side too. As does Arlington. Not sure what good switching does for either of them. None of their girls want to be GA and Next is so watered down in the area with all the recent additions that it’s not all that attractive either for their boys- most of who play HS and earn all the local accolades. My sense is they will stay put while they see how this little experiment plays out. No reason for either club to depart at this stage when they hold the cards with sound funding, strong competitive teams on girls and boys side and academy/college placement that is superior to many in the area… .

You, it is very evident, don’t know much about the boys side in this area.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Look closer at mid to lower tier ECRL clubs if you are trying to figure out who would switch. Like one sliding to MLSN2/Ga makes more sense.

MLSN is trying to build out MLSN2 not oversaturate MLSN even more.

So, speaking strictly about the boys side, it was a big demotion for Loudoun to switch to MLS Next?

Their top 2 directors have high-level daughters and, even though they knew switching would have an immediate negative impact on the girls side, they knew they had to make that move. If MLS Next won’t offer VDA or Arl a seat at the big kids table (ie only MLSN 2) yes that would be a demotion and agree they certainly wouldn’t switch.

So reading comprehension issues?

Arlington and VDA will both leave ECNL, that is all there is to comprehend.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Sorry, girl Dad, not when the boys side is added to the equation. Don’t let the VDA social media machine fool you, they’ve consistently been losing talent to SYC and now NVA on the boys side.

This is the issue. Do you kill the girls side to get to a better place on the boys side? It is what a club pays the leadership to decide. The boys side would be in a much better place. But make no mistake you would kill the girls side. GA is not on par with ECNL; not even close. There would be a 75% roster turnover. Now if they can fill the slots maybe they do not care. And I am sure they can fill the slots. But Arlington and VDA have had a pretty good college placement track record on the girls side. They could not replicate that in GA. The top half of the team would be fine but the real value that I have seen is that ECNL teams tend to place almost the entire team on college teams -- even bad ECNL teams. GA does not. The bottom half of the roster would be impacted. Leadership has to make a decision. I really doubt either will do this -- more money on the girls side. But if they do both will at the same time.

Won’t take much to switch the balance of power to GA. One to two years tops. Bank on it.

I'm sure plans are being defined for next years announcements. Top GA clubs will keep getting everything thry want like second GA teams. I'm also sure if a top girls ECNL club can guarantee MLSN for their boys if they switched over many will do it.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington and VDA face the “prisoner’s dilemma”. They don’t want to be stuck as the only decent ECNL club in NOVA (FVU may still be flailing around), because it would be the death knell for their boys program. If they don’t jump first, the opportunity might evaporate.

It's a big advantage to being the only ECNL team in an area -- you'll dominate recruiting where the have a much better chance at forming super teams to compete nationally. While it certainly means more on the girls side, it'll likely a pretty decent option for boys, too.

VDA already competes nationally on both the girls and boys side too. As does Arlington. Not sure what good switching does for either of them. None of their girls want to be GA and Next is so watered down in the area with all the recent additions that it’s not all that attractive either for their boys- most of who play HS and earn all the local accolades. My sense is they will stay put while they see how this little experiment plays out. No reason for either club to depart at this stage when they hold the cards with sound funding, strong competitive teams on girls and boys side and academy/college placement that is superior to many in the area… .

You, it is very evident, don’t know much about the boys side in this area.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Look closer at mid to lower tier ECRL clubs if you are trying to figure out who would switch. Like one sliding to MLSN2/Ga makes more sense.

MLSN is trying to build out MLSN2 not oversaturate MLSN even more.

So, speaking strictly about the boys side, it was a big demotion for Loudoun to switch to MLS Next?

Their top 2 directors have high-level daughters and, even though they knew switching would have an immediate negative impact on the girls side, they knew they had to make that move. If MLS Next won’t offer VDA or Arl a seat at the big kids table (ie only MLSN 2) yes that would be a demotion and agree they certainly wouldn’t switch.

So reading comprehension issues?

Arlington and VDA will both leave ECNL, that is all there is to comprehend.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Sorry, girl Dad, not when the boys side is added to the equation. Don’t let the VDA social media machine fool you, they’ve consistently been losing talent to SYC and now NVA on the boys side.

This is the issue. Do you kill the girls side to get to a better place on the boys side? It is what a club pays the leadership to decide. The boys side would be in a much better place. But make no mistake you would kill the girls side. GA is not on par with ECNL; not even close. There would be a 75% roster turnover. Now if they can fill the slots maybe they do not care. And I am sure they can fill the slots. But Arlington and VDA have had a pretty good college placement track record on the girls side. They could not replicate that in GA. The top half of the team would be fine but the real value that I have seen is that ECNL teams tend to place almost the entire team on college teams -- even bad ECNL teams. GA does not. The bottom half of the roster would be impacted. Leadership has to make a decision. I really doubt either will do this -- more money on the girls side. But if they do both will at the same time.

Bunch of wrong comments. Explain how college recruiting works with clubs and how is ECNL or GA related to a college Coach choice. The college Coach is looking for talented players. These can be anywhere. Has nothing to do with the league. If you think that is not true, why not you ask a college Coach yourself and hear an answer you won’t like ( and they may even make fun of you) especially if you are an ECNL hat. I would recommend you ask the question in private so other people in attending don’t laugh at you.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington and VDA face the “prisoner’s dilemma”. They don’t want to be stuck as the only decent ECNL club in NOVA (FVU may still be flailing around), because it would be the death knell for their boys program. If they don’t jump first, the opportunity might evaporate.

It's a big advantage to being the only ECNL team in an area -- you'll dominate recruiting where the have a much better chance at forming super teams to compete nationally. While it certainly means more on the girls side, it'll likely a pretty decent option for boys, too.

VDA already competes nationally on both the girls and boys side too. As does Arlington. Not sure what good switching does for either of them. None of their girls want to be GA and Next is so watered down in the area with all the recent additions that it’s not all that attractive either for their boys- most of who play HS and earn all the local accolades. My sense is they will stay put while they see how this little experiment plays out. No reason for either club to depart at this stage when they hold the cards with sound funding, strong competitive teams on girls and boys side and academy/college placement that is superior to many in the area… .

You, it is very evident, don’t know much about the boys side in this area.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Look closer at mid to lower tier ECRL clubs if you are trying to figure out who would switch. Like one sliding to MLSN2/Ga makes more sense.

MLSN is trying to build out MLSN2 not oversaturate MLSN even more.

So, speaking strictly about the boys side, it was a big demotion for Loudoun to switch to MLS Next?

Their top 2 directors have high-level daughters and, even though they knew switching would have an immediate negative impact on the girls side, they knew they had to make that move. If MLS Next won’t offer VDA or Arl a seat at the big kids table (ie only MLSN 2) yes that would be a demotion and agree they certainly wouldn’t switch.

So reading comprehension issues?

Arlington and VDA will both leave ECNL, that is all there is to comprehend.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Sorry, girl Dad, not when the boys side is added to the equation. Don’t let the VDA social media machine fool you, they’ve consistently been losing talent to SYC and now NVA on the boys side.

Honestly, Bethedsa is the only MLS DMV team near the level of Arlington or VDA. There is a reason that the MLS academy scouts were out in force in Seattle. The talent is better.

Someone needs to lay off the crack pipe. VDA, Arlington, Richmond and some team in NC are the only decent teams in the mid mid-Atlantic region. All got stomped in Seattle.

team or programs? As not all the age groups shine. Lay off the mid day spirits

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If more teams switch to GA, and the reality hits then all the talent will switch back to GA. Then GA will be the new ECNL. At the end of the day it is an alphabet soup. Maybe by then the league will be called Popcorn league. Who knows. A league is only as good as the talent in it. Name does not matter.

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Anonymous wrote:If more teams switch to GA, and the reality hits then all the talent will switch back to GA. Then GA will be the new ECNL. At the end of the day it is an alphabet soup. Maybe by then the league will be called Popcorn league. Who knows. A league is only as good as the talent in it. Name does not matter.

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So to recap. ARL is the most likely to switch. VDA might but less expected. Good day.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington and VDA face the “prisoner’s dilemma”. They don’t want to be stuck as the only decent ECNL club in NOVA (FVU may still be flailing around), because it would be the death knell for their boys program. If they don’t jump first, the opportunity might evaporate.

It's a big advantage to being the only ECNL team in an area -- you'll dominate recruiting where the have a much better chance at forming super teams to compete nationally. While it certainly means more on the girls side, it'll likely a pretty decent option for boys, too.

VDA already competes nationally on both the girls and boys side too. As does Arlington. Not sure what good switching does for either of them. None of their girls want to be GA and Next is so watered down in the area with all the recent additions that it’s not all that attractive either for their boys- most of who play HS and earn all the local accolades. My sense is they will stay put while they see how this little experiment plays out. No reason for either club to depart at this stage when they hold the cards with sound funding, strong competitive teams on girls and boys side and academy/college placement that is superior to many in the area… .

You, it is very evident, don’t know much about the boys side in this area.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Look closer at mid to lower tier ECRL clubs if you are trying to figure out who would switch. Like one sliding to MLSN2/Ga makes more sense.

MLSN is trying to build out MLSN2 not oversaturate MLSN even more.

So, speaking strictly about the boys side, it was a big demotion for Loudoun to switch to MLS Next?

Their top 2 directors have high-level daughters and, even though they knew switching would have an immediate negative impact on the girls side, they knew they had to make that move. If MLS Next won’t offer VDA or Arl a seat at the big kids table (ie only MLSN 2) yes that would be a demotion and agree they certainly wouldn’t switch.

So reading comprehension issues?

Arlington and VDA will both leave ECNL, that is all there is to comprehend.

In totality, it would be a big demotion for either of them to switch from ECNL.

Sorry, girl Dad, not when the boys side is added to the equation. Don’t let the VDA social media machine fool you, they’ve consistently been losing talent to SYC and now NVA on the boys side.

This is the issue. Do you kill the girls side to get to a better place on the boys side? It is what a club pays the leadership to decide. The boys side would be in a much better place. But make no mistake you would kill the girls side. GA is not on par with ECNL; not even close. There would be a 75% roster turnover. Now if they can fill the slots maybe they do not care. And I am sure they can fill the slots. But Arlington and VDA have had a pretty good college placement track record on the girls side. They could not replicate that in GA. The top half of the team would be fine but the real value that I have seen is that ECNL teams tend to place almost the entire team on college teams -- even bad ECNL teams. GA does not. The bottom half of the roster would be impacted. Leadership has to make a decision. I really doubt either will do this -- more money on the girls side. But if they do both will at the same time.

Bunch of wrong comments. Explain how college recruiting works with clubs and how is ECNL or GA related to a college Coach choice. The college Coach is looking for talented players. These can be anywhere. Has nothing to do with the league. If you think that is not true, why not you ask a college Coach yourself and hear an answer you won’t like ( and they may even make fun of you) especially if you are an ECNL hat. I would recommend you ask the question in private so other people in attending don’t laugh at you.

Right. They care about talent only. But they have no budget even the D1s and they have little time. ECNL is packaged better with more girls to look at. 80% of D1s are now ECNL, why? Talent is the first answer. Ease of operation is another.