U.S. evacuates embassy staff from Iraq. All U.S. bases told be on high alert. As Irael plans to strike Iran.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thing was predicted years ago in some think tank paper funded by Google, Lockheed, Boeing...

Their goal is to provoke Iranian attacks so they can cry foul and go all in.

And what does everyone in the security council think about Irans final nuclear weapon capabilities they allowed to develop the last 12 years?

They probably think they’re a sovereign nation with the right to their own self defense. Shocking right?

Did you know Pakistan has a nuclear weapon? Yeah the same country OBL supposedly died in. India and Pakistan almost came to blows this year. Pakistan went nuclear after India obtained nuclear weapons.

Is it a surprise countries develop nuclears when they are facing threats and assassinations from a nutjob country in their region and their nutjob friend with an insane president wanting military parades? I don’t think so.

[Anonymous]

Didn’t Trump fall out with Benjamin Netanyahu over the Soleimani strike back in 2020?

Israel just refuses to accept American presidents do not want to go to war for them anymore and the neoconservative movement died with George W Bush

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed that this attack happened - probably because I don’t follow Iran closely - but why are people here suggesting that Iran is blameless and should have a nuclear weapon, and that wouldn’t be problematic for the rest of the region and world? The world has gone mad.

This started after Iraq war and Bush claiming Iran next on the “axis of evil” world tour. Iran believes nuclear weapons would deter foreign military ground invasion of their country. So far they’ve been right. Notice Israel wants to strike their nuclear facilities first before going in.

This is sad and pathetic but what can we do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed that this attack happened - probably because I don’t follow Iran closely - but why are people here suggesting that Iran is blameless and should have a nuclear weapon, and that wouldn’t be problematic for the rest of the region and world? The world has gone mad.

Because Trump has essentially forced the American left into a position where they are simply unthinking reactionary oppositional automatons, whose thoughts and opinions are whatever is the polar opposite of this man they hate.

Trump wants to deport illegal immigrants? They have riots to demand illegal immigrants stay. Trump sends an illegal immigrant woman beating human trafficking gang member back to El Salvador? Dems insist he’s brought back here. Trump, in 2020, says everyone should get a covid vaccination - Biden and Harris both say they wouldn’t get “Trump’s vaccine”. Now Trump says Iran can never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon….. so of course American democrats now insist Iran be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon.

It’s simple oppositional defiance disorder. The kind of thing you’d see in 5 year olds. Except Trump has forced 70 million American adults to regress into this state.

What a load of bullsh#t. Israel has repeatedly attack Iran- bombing their embassy, assassinating civilian scientists, assassinating senior military leaders, bombing ordinary civilians in Iran, etc. Israel is a clear aggressor and the problem in the Middle East. Israel has done everything in it power to push the US to attack Iran. Just like they did with Iraq.

Israel must be stopped.

Leaving Israel aside for a moment (because I agree Netanyahu is a beast and Israel has several motivations for wanting to attack Iran, including their role in 10/7), how would you propose dealing with Iran being on the brink of having a nuclear weapon? Because they are on the brink, and there’s no deal in sight - yes that’s partially because Trump killed the last nuclear deal and failed to negotiate a new one, and partially because it’s Iran and it’s like negotiating with Russia, who is going to do what they are capable of doing.

So leaving Israel out of this, how do you suggest dealing with this situation: Iran, an oppressive, corrupt, radical regime, is on the brink of having nuclear weapons and developing intercontinental ballistic missiles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed that this attack happened - probably because I don’t follow Iran closely - but why are people here suggesting that Iran is blameless and should have a nuclear weapon, and that wouldn’t be problematic for the rest of the region and world? The world has gone mad.

This started after Iraq war and Bush claiming Iran next on the “axis of evil” world tour. Iran believes nuclear weapons would deter foreign military ground invasion of their country. So far they’ve been right. Notice Israel wants to strike their nuclear facilities first before going in.

This is sad and pathetic but what can we do?

Except we never found the nuclear weapons in Iraq and Iran is a lot more certain.

I mean, I agree with you to an extent. Iraq, Afghanistan and Gaza have been failures. Would Iran be any different? But given that they have nuclear weapons and long range ballistic missles, should we just allow that? The us is having Israel do the fighting so they take the fall for a problem that very much affects us too.

It’s totally possible I’m missing something. My knee jerk reaction was the same, wtf is Israel doing?! But when I sat down to think and read about it, I see it as - there is no nuclear deal with Iran, an unstable regime is rapidly getting closer to having extremely dangerous weapons. Without just ignoring the problem, what are we supposed to do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t Trump fall out with Benjamin Netanyahu over the Soleimani strike back in 2020?

Israel just refuses to accept American presidents do not want to go to war for them anymore and the neoconservative movement died with George W Bush

Unless the intelligence about irans nuclear capabilities is false (and given the extent of the negotiations with Iran across multiple administrations, I doubt this) it seems like Irans nuclear program has far broader implications beyond Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t Trump fall out with Benjamin Netanyahu over the Soleimani strike back in 2020?

Israel just refuses to accept American presidents do not want to go to war for them anymore and the neoconservative movement died with George W Bush

Unless the intelligence about irans nuclear capabilities is false (and given the extent of the negotiations with Iran across multiple administrations, I doubt this) it seems like Irans nuclear program has far broader implications beyond Israel.

Yeah just like Saddams imminent weapons of mass destruction. There’s no evidence Iran even has nuclears. It’s Israeli propoganda just like Iraq

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t Trump fall out with Benjamin Netanyahu over the Soleimani strike back in 2020?

Israel just refuses to accept American presidents do not want to go to war for them anymore and the neoconservative movement died with George W Bush

Unless the intelligence about irans nuclear capabilities is false (and given the extent of the negotiations with Iran across multiple administrations, I doubt this) it seems like Irans nuclear program has far broader implications beyond Israel.

Yeah just like Saddams imminent weapons of mass destruction. There’s no evidence Iran even has nuclears. It’s Israeli propoganda just like Iraq

Doubtful. Obama, Biden and Trump wouldn’t have all been negotiating if they didn’t have nuclear capabilities. Even the UN has said Iran has not been compliant with nuclear obligations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm. . . Iran’s allies are: Russia, North Korea, and China.

Clearly Iran is part of the new axis of evil.

I am supporting our friend, Israel against the real evil here: Iran.

Brave stance with this crowd, it seems.

Under Obama the Iranians encouraged the US and others to involve themselves with Irans nuclear refinement program, giving us a front row seat at what was actually happening. Sadly fear mongers and Israel lobbyists followed by T1 got us where we are today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm. . . Iran’s allies are: Russia, North Korea, and China.

Clearly Iran is part of the new axis of evil.

I am supporting our friend, Israel against the real evil here: Iran.

Brave stance with this crowd, it seems.

And the only rational position any moral person should take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm. . . Iran’s allies are: Russia, North Korea, and China.

Clearly Iran is part of the new axis of evil.

I am supporting our friend, Israel against the real evil here: Iran.

Brave stance with this crowd, it seems.

Under Obama the Iranians encouraged the US and others to involve themselves with Irans nuclear refinement program, giving us a front row seat at what was actually happening. Sadly fear mongers and Israel lobbyists followed by T1 got us where we are today.

Possible, also possible that Iran never had any intention of abiding by the deal and took a temporary deal w Obama because they were not close to developing the uranium levels needed for nuclear proficiency and in the meantime, wanted relief from economic sanctions.

And it looked like a win for Obama to kick the can along. I voted for Obama twice. But any nuclear deal was just a stall tactic kind of like appeasing Germany pre wwII.

[Anonymous]

For a few days my worries shifted to civil war now I'm back to worrying about WWIII.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm. . . Iran’s allies are: Russia, North Korea, and China.

Clearly Iran is part of the new axis of evil.

I am supporting our friend, Israel against the real evil here: Iran.

Brave stance with this crowd, it seems.

Under Obama the Iranians encouraged the US and others to involve themselves with Irans nuclear refinement program, giving us a front row seat at what was actually happening. Sadly fear mongers and Israel lobbyists followed by T1 got us where we are today.

Possible, also possible that Iran never had any intention of abiding by the deal and took a temporary deal w Obama because they were not close to developing the uranium levels needed for nuclear proficiency and in the meantime, wanted relief from economic sanctions.

And it looked like a win for Obama to kick the can along. I voted for Obama twice. But any nuclear deal was just a stall tactic kind of like appeasing Germany pre wwII.

Yeh but with a front row seat to what was happening you’d be in much better position to make a judgement rather than being shut out completely. Information is the asset, we’d have access to it firsthand.

[Anonymous]

Netanyahu is a crazed individual. He advocates depopulation. Endless wars are very effective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu is a crazed individual. He advocates depopulation. Endless wars are very effective.

I heard he was very close to facing corruption charges but looks like that'll be on hold for quite a while now that he's busy with Iran.