Wake Forest ranking drop?

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Anonymous wrote:25% of all Wake's students study business. According to Poets and Quants, its undergraduate business school is a top 20 school in the country.

That isn't going to change because of US News.

Most people haven’t heard of Poets and Quants but unfortunately many people blindly follow USNWR, so you’re kidding yourself if you think Wake’s huge USNWR ranking decline doesn’t matter.

Applications to Wake have gone up each of the past two years since the ranking methodology was changed.

Applications don’t matter. Has their yield increased or decreased?

I doubt it’s changed if student interest in the school is increasing. Why don’t you research that and report back, Emory mom.

You haven’t actually proven that interest is increasing. Applications are up at most places that people on here care about. You can either run the numbers and show us that Wake’s app increase is higher than the average increase or calculate yield to see if that has increased. You make that claim, you can run the numbers to prove your point. Until then nobody believes you.

You are certifiably insane. Last year, Wake received a record number of applications. Source— their admissions blog, google it. I have no idea how that compares to other schools nor do I care.

DP. The previous post is right. Increased applications on their own are not a sign of anything if it something that is happening broadly.

Except previous poster started off contending applications to Wake has dropped. That was untrue.

Wrong. It was said that the decline in ranking could hurt Wake and the response was Wake’s applications have increased. It was then said increasing applications don’t prove that Wake’s popularity has not been or will not be impacted by a significant decline in rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:25% of all Wake's students study business. According to Poets and Quants, its undergraduate business school is a top 20 school in the country.

That isn't going to change because of US News.

Most people haven’t heard of Poets and Quants but unfortunately many people blindly follow USNWR, so you’re kidding yourself if you think Wake’s huge USNWR ranking decline doesn’t matter.

Applications to Wake have gone up each of the past two years since the ranking methodology was changed.

Applications don’t matter. Has their yield increased or decreased?

I doubt it’s changed if student interest in the school is increasing. Why don’t you research that and report back, Emory mom.

You haven’t actually proven that interest is increasing. Applications are up at most places that people on here care about. You can either run the numbers and show us that Wake’s app increase is higher than the average increase or calculate yield to see if that has increased. You make that claim, you can run the numbers to prove your point. Until then nobody believes you.

You are certifiably insane. Last year, Wake received a record number of applications. Source— their admissions blog, google it. I have no idea how that compares to other schools nor do I care.

DP. The previous post is right. Increased applications on their own are not a sign of anything if it something that is happening broadly.

Except previous poster started off contending applications to Wake has dropped. That was untrue.

Wrong. It was said that the decline in ranking could hurt Wake and the response was Wake’s applications have increased. It was then said increasing applications don’t prove that Wake’s popularity has not been or will not be impacted by a significant decline in rankings.

What level of insanity does it take to start weekly threads denigrating Wake or making illogical arguments like this? Touch grass and maybe just forget Wake exists. Your mental health is clearly suffering.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of mid-size schools had their rankings change after US News started favoring poor people schools. Case Western, Tulane, William and Mary, Dartmouth, Emory, Northeastern, Boston College, Tufts, etc. all had ranking drops even though nothing changed.

Some of these schools are not like the others if you look at the actual drops:

Dartmouth: 12 to 15
Emory: 22 to 24
BC: 36 to 37
Case: 44 to 51
Northeastern: 44 to 54
Tulane: 44 to Rhee 63
W&M: 41 to 54arger percentage
Wake: 29 to 46
Tufts: 32 to 37

Wish someone would explain why Dartmouth, Emory, BC...even Tufts really didn't drop much at all, while the others dropped more precipitously.

This was your list BTW.

Larger percentage of Pell grant/first gen kids and for some, more research funding. Emory in particular has a long standing relationship with Questbridge. Also less affected by removal of class size and percentage of alumni giving as factors.

Emory does not have more questbridge students then say... Vanderbilt or WashU etc. The lot of you cannot grasp that the schools you're DC got into (ie Tufts, Wake, Tulane, W&M, BC etc) ARE NOT NOR WILL EVER BE peers with Emory. The reputation score is most important factor in most rankings where Emory is tied for 22. The others do not compare.

DP- You seem seriously mentally ill. If Emory’s decline in rankings triggers you this severely, then maybe it’s time to take a break. Look, it’s probably hard for Emory to attract top students in-state when they have to compete with GT and UGA.

Most GT and UGa students don't/couldn't get into Emory, so how does that work?

Cite?

Easy,... per CDS
Emory- instate AR 12.7%, 1480-1540, 32-35
GT- Instate AR 33%, 1370-1530, 30-34
UGA-Instae AR 50%, 1230-1410, 27-32

Do you have anything other than outdated stats? lol we all know admissions isn’t just based on stats. Try harder.

These are 2024 numbers, what ate you talking about. PP said Emory is struggling to get instate students but how when they can't get into Emory?

You haven’t proven they can’t get in. You don’t even know if top kids apply to Emory. Why would they when GT and UGA offer just as much if not more when you consider the overall experience. How’s Emory school spirit compared to UGA? LOL

Using that logic, are you claiming it's impossible to know if MIT's GA-originating student body is no different than UGA or that top kids don't apply to MIT, even though the stats of the GA kids headed to MIT are much higher than those of UGA...because UGA has more school spirit?

If PP's stats are accurate, it's hard to make random claims that aren't supported by the most recent stats.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop giving so much credence to these "rankings." The schools haven't changed.

Too late lol if these schools touted their ranking for decades, don’t suddenly decide that the rankings don’t matter now that you don’t like where your school is ranked. If the schools haven’t changed maybe they didn’t deserve the higher ranking to begin with.

It's perfectly reasonable to stop valuing something when it fundamentally changes.

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The funny thing is that Emory has admitted it provided false stats for a full decade to improve its U.S. News ranking.

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When Emory cheated for 10 years by supplying knowgly false information to US News to help its rankings. They falsely gave US News the SAT data of admitted students, claiming the data as that of enrolled students.

Once Emory was caught cheating and trying to game the rankings, they had to pledge to be honest with US News in the future.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/caught-cheating-colleges-falsify-admissions-data-higher-rankings-flna1c8964083