DOJ civil rights probe into TJ admissions policies

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Anonymous wrote:If equity for POC was the goal, then why did white enrollment increase? it's so obvious what is going on.

White enrollment increased more than you think, since most Hispanics are white. I have no idea why non-disadvantaged middle and upper middle class white Hispanics are considered URMs.


Because the whole point of identity politics is to avoid judging people based on their individual circumstances or merit and to judge them instead as a member of an identity group.

If you are black or Hispanic you are considered disadvantaged even if your parents/family are wealthy and educated.

Meanwhile if you are white (or Asian) you are presumed to be advantaged even if your family was dirt poor and uneducated.



Exactly.

Identity politics in this case involves the identity of young children. The party pushing identity politics demands we examine the child’s skin color, then place children into different baskets. Some baskets are given advantages over other baskets.

To keep public advantages from going to white children, we used to divide whites from everyone else by calling everyone else “minorities,” and just assuming that white racism disadvantaged all minorities.

But then that one party noticed certain dark skinned groups of children performed even better than whites, despite the old working theory about every white having every unearned advantage (might even say, maybe “privilege”).

So, to that certain divisive, pro-basket party, the problem became:

- how can that party keep those dark-skinned Indians and Asian children from getting into TJ? They came up with a proxy for race, and they continue to call it “experience factors.”

That party is the democrat party, of course, and they really are quite racist; they are obsessed with dividing children and tying to gain political advantage through race (as well as other “identities”).

I personally believe the democrats’ racism is un-American and it is offensive to the meritocracy this country was founded upon.

Hopefully, the courts agree.

This really comes down to dems being afraid of confronting black and brown communities over the way they raise children at large.

Single parent households among black and brown communities massively outweigh those of Asian and white communities and is directly correlated to poverty which directly affects childhood academic outcomes.

This isn’t rocket science.


What this got to do with TJ?



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Well, the reason they have to create racial preferences is because the achievement gap has become extremely stubborn and the education system has tried pretty much everything in its power to close the gap but there is only so much they can do during the school day. The implication is that he reason for this achievement gap that seems to be immune to educational intervention to the point where racial preferences and eliminating testing becomes commonplace is because of these reasons. I think it's much more complex than that but eliminating testing and calling math racist is probably not the answer.
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Anonymous wrote:Dems calling fellow dems rwnj is hilarious

The far left feels itself losing influence and they are pulling out all the stops.
They would rather have a far left minority (for the time being) than a middle left majority.
A far left minority might gain power if the right shoots itself in the foot, but a middle left majority would be too intent on having majority support to do the things that the far left want them to do.
They don't really see much difference between Bill Clinton and Mitt Romney.
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Anonymous wrote:Dems calling fellow dems rwnj is hilarious

The far left feels itself losing influence and they are pulling out all the stops.
They would rather have a far left minority (for the time being) than a middle left majority.
A far left minority might gain power if the right shoots itself in the foot, but a middle left majority would be too intent on having majority support to do the things that the far left want them to do.
They don't really see much difference between Bill Clinton and Mitt Romney.


+1000

I am just left of center all my life - a moderate Democrat.

After seeing the extremes to what the left has went, I am happy that Trump is in power. Not that I like him one bit and I 100% think he is unfit to be president, but as a just punishment for the woke excess of the last 4 years.

They really really deserved it.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't like the current TJ admissions process and think prior processes (there were multiple) were all better.

That said, I'm tired of distractions from what's actually important - giving our kids the highest quality education possible.

Like, let's make sure we're teaching primary grade kids how to read and stuffing young brains with facts, teaching middle schoolers how to reason, and giving high schoolers opportunities to excel.


Any preference is an admission of failure. FCPS has failed poor and URM students.


The process has mostly favored the wealthy feeders.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dems calling fellow dems rwnj is hilarious

The far left feels itself losing influence and they are pulling out all the stops.
They would rather have a far left minority (for the time being) than a middle left majority.
A far left minority might gain power if the right shoots itself in the foot, but a middle left majority would be too intent on having majority support to do the things that the far left want them to do.
They don't really see much difference between Bill Clinton and Mitt Romney.


Oh, I know those far lefties like that Reagan guy who gave amnesty to immigrants, or Nixon who founded the EPA. Things have gone so far to the right that we call moderates radical lefties.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dems calling fellow dems rwnj is hilarious

The far left feels itself losing influence and they are pulling out all the stops.
They would rather have a far left minority (for the time being) than a middle left majority.
A far left minority might gain power if the right shoots itself in the foot, but a middle left majority would be too intent on having majority support to do the things that the far left want them to do.
They don't really see much difference between Bill Clinton and Mitt Romney.


+1000

I am just left of center all my life - a moderate Democrat.

After seeing the extremes to what the left has went, I am happy that Trump is in power. Not that I like him one bit and I 100% think he is unfit to be president, but as a just punishment for the woke excess of the last 4 years.

They really really deserved it.


Anyone who is happy that Trump is in power is a POS, whatever the reported “political affiliation”.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't like the current TJ admissions process and think prior processes (there were multiple) were all better.

That said, I'm tired of distractions from what's actually important - giving our kids the highest quality education possible.

Like, let's make sure we're teaching primary grade kids how to read and stuffing young brains with facts, teaching middle schoolers how to reason, and giving high schoolers opportunities to excel.


Any preference is an admission of failure. FCPS has failed poor and URM students.


The process has mostly favored the wealthy feeders.

Wealthy people tend to be smarter. That’s why they are wealthy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't like the current TJ admissions process and think prior processes (there were multiple) were all better.

That said, I'm tired of distractions from what's actually important - giving our kids the highest quality education possible.

Like, let's make sure we're teaching primary grade kids how to read and stuffing young brains with facts, teaching middle schoolers how to reason, and giving high schoolers opportunities to excel.


Any preference is an admission of failure. FCPS has failed poor and URM students.


The process has mostly favored the wealthy feeders.


It still does. It just ever so slightly favors them a little less.

RWNJs don’t want any poors at TJ. They prefer <1% FRM.
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RWNJ drivel.

The TJ admissions process is race blind.

No baskets, outside of the deplorables who continue to sht on our schools, including TJ.


This is why the Democrats are alienating the Asian community. I don’t know who or what RWNJ is - I am sure the more politically inclined folks are aware. There is a sense that Asians are collateral damage in whatever big game the Dems are playing. And the Dems don’t care.

But the PP’s post on identity politics resonated with me. And the RWNJ poster dismissive response tells me how the Dems feel. The TJ episode is representative of the marginalization of Asians from a Dem perspective.


The Dems are alienating everyone except black women and and white women. They are alienating all men and Asian sand Hispanic women.

“Collateral damage”? GMAFB.

Asian students are still admitted at a higher rate than almost everyone else. Asian students still make up the majority of students. There are more Asian students enrolled at TJ than almost everyone else year in history (aside from 2019 & 2020).

They added seats to bring in some kids from across the area. Most kids still come from the wealthy feeders.

Asian students are fine. There just happens to be some who aren’t as rich as before.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't like the current TJ admissions process and think prior processes (there were multiple) were all better.

That said, I'm tired of distractions from what's actually important - giving our kids the highest quality education possible.

Like, let's make sure we're teaching primary grade kids how to read and stuffing young brains with facts, teaching middle schoolers how to reason, and giving high schoolers opportunities to excel.


Any preference is an admission of failure. FCPS has failed poor and URM students.


The process has mostly favored the wealthy feeders.


It isn’t the wealthy feeder schools that are favored, it is the students at those schools that have higher level of STEM achievement and also higher levels of interest/applications to TJ. Some schools don’t even have enough students to fill the 1.5% quota.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't like the current TJ admissions process and think prior processes (there were multiple) were all better.

That said, I'm tired of distractions from what's actually important - giving our kids the highest quality education possible.

Like, let's make sure we're teaching primary grade kids how to read and stuffing young brains with facts, teaching middle schoolers how to reason, and giving high schoolers opportunities to excel.


Any preference is an admission of failure. FCPS has failed poor and URM students.


The process has mostly favored the wealthy feeders.

limited vocab
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't like the current TJ admissions process and think prior processes (there were multiple) were all better.

That said, I'm tired of distractions from what's actually important - giving our kids the highest quality education possible.

Like, let's make sure we're teaching primary grade kids how to read and stuffing young brains with facts, teaching middle schoolers how to reason, and giving high schoolers opportunities to excel.


Any preference is an admission of failure. FCPS has failed poor and URM students.


The process has mostly favored the wealthy feeders.

academically wealthy feeders that fcps prefers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dems calling fellow dems rwnj is hilarious

The far left feels itself losing influence and they are pulling out all the stops.
They would rather have a far left minority (for the time being) than a middle left majority.
A far left minority might gain power if the right shoots itself in the foot, but a middle left majority would be too intent on having majority support to do the things that the far left want them to do.
They don't really see much difference between Bill Clinton and Mitt Romney.


+1000

I am just left of center all my life - a moderate Democrat.

After seeing the extremes to what the left has went, I am happy that Trump is in power. Not that I like him one bit and I 100% think he is unfit to be president, but as a just punishment for the woke excess of the last 4 years.

They really really deserved it.


Anyone who is happy that Trump is in power is a POS, whatever the reported “political affiliation”.


This is why I love Trump so much. Makes people like you just crazy! Loving it!


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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


RWNJ drivel.

The TJ admissions process is race blind.

No baskets, outside of the deplorables who continue to sht on our schools, including TJ.


This is why the Democrats are alienating the Asian community. I don’t know who or what RWNJ is - I am sure the more politically inclined folks are aware. There is a sense that Asians are collateral damage in whatever big game the Dems are playing. And the Dems don’t care.

But the PP’s post on identity politics resonated with me. And the RWNJ poster dismissive response tells me how the Dems feel. The TJ episode is representative of the marginalization of Asians from a Dem perspective.


The Dems are alienating everyone except black women and and white women. They are alienating all men and Asian sand Hispanic women.


“Collateral damage”? GMAFB.

Asian students are still admitted at a higher rate than almost everyone else. Asian students still make up the majority of students. There are more Asian students enrolled at TJ than almost everyone else year in history (aside from 2019 & 2020).

They added seats to bring in some kids from across the area. Most kids still come from the wealthy feeders.

Asian students are fine. There just happens to be some who aren’t as rich as before.


If they aren't collateral damage then they are the intended targets.
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