Habemus Papam!
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Anonymous
They took down that page. I don't think it's true. |
Anonymous
Still up: https://www.nola.com/news/first-american-pope-roots-new-orleans/article_3c7bfdf1-8f69-452e-af01-90aa012366df.html |
Anonymous
His maternal grandparents, and his mother, might be Creole, according to the NYT: here's a gift article - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/us/pope-leo-creole-new-orleans.html?unlocked_article_code=1.F08.J1Y1.hWIH71ynqQ9B&smid=url-share Creole does not mean Black. It can either mean white Europeans people who were born in the Caribbean and south Americans; or mixed African/native tribes/European. His father's name Prevost is originally French. Which means he could be white European by way of Canada, and New Orleans, since a lot of Acadians moved there. Or he just be French. As a French woman with white European and Asian heritage, I love this. I think his origins might have greatly informed his decision to work abroad, in Peru and other countries with a heavily mixed population. Italy, Spain, southern France all have a lot of North African genes in their populations as well. |
Anonymous
According to the NOLA article, White smoke, black pope. |
Anonymous
No, the political lens is wrong, IMHO. The cardinals aren’t making a political decision, or sending a message about particular countries, or particular politics — the choice is steered by the divine, as it always has been. People who claim to be believers who second-guess the conclave on political or worldly grounds are so crass. |
Anonymous
Why wouldn’t the divine be steering towards someone who could operate most effectively in the current geopolitical climate? It doesn’t mean it’s a political decision. Just means the conclave might be led to choose one who can perhaps help bring the most peace to our current world. |
Anonymous
Who the F cares what Tramp says about it? He has zippo to do with da Papa. |
Anonymous
They opened the conclave with a political statement, oh wise one. https://zenit.org/2025/05/07/college-of-cardinals-sends-message-to-the-world-before-the-conclave/ |
Anonymous
As are many Americans. |
Anonymous
PP here. I actually don’t disagree with that. I’m more thinking of the earthly-preference view of some people who are like, “oh, but I was hoping for someone more _____. It must be because the cardinals are [pick a political flavor].” |
Anonymous
Some might think that “it’s awful that civilians are dying” somewhat transcends politics… |
Anonymous
+1 lots of registered Republicans in my Catholic family. None have voted for a Republican candidate since Bush, some not since Reagan, and many of those voted for Carter. |
Anonymous
DP: I think the simplest explanation is probably the correct one. Under Francis the Cardinals were less familiar with each other than one would expect. There were stories about the Vatican providing conclave voters with directories so they could get to know each other. Then Cardinal Prevost, as the head of the Dicastery of Bishops actually served in one of the few roles that would have broadly exposed him to the worldwide church in a particularly administrative /operational role. As such, he came in probably better known to the Cardinal electors than many of the other Papable candidates. The other scuttlebutt was that, for better or for worse rifts opened up in the Church under Francis, and the Cardinals were looking for more of a mender. There were clear choices available as a known sort of continuation of the Pope Francis project—particularly Perolin. This is not to suggest that Leo will or will not continue the Francis project. Only that he is more unknown on that front. The one interesting wrinkle is that synodlaity was a new (some would say revival of an ancient practice) project throughout the entire church started by Francis that largely fell flat with the laity, but Leo is known to support it. I don’t think they gave any thought to his status as an American or to Donald Trump. |
Anonymous
The man was tweeting about jd Vance et al on the regular-it’s hard to believe that the views he expressed were not at least part of the thought process. |