Elementary parents, pay attention to start times

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How much is this about parents who genuinely care about what's best vs. people wrangling due to inconvenience to their work schedules?

Find me a study that says it's okay for kids to be in school until 4:30pm, PP. There aren't any.


Check out Asia!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think the schedules should remain the same.

But, all this outrage from the ES parents is a little bizarre. Is it that they don't want to pay for before-care? I



How is it bizarre? Literally the majority of working parents would need before care for a 9:50 start. Even with 9:20 start, SACC is filled. Things are EXPENSIVE as hell right now. Adding on a huge additional cost that wasn’t needed is a big deal. Secondly, my six year old is up at 6am daily and wouldn’t be starting his learning till almost 4 hours later. That is a waste and ridiculous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the schedules should remain the same.

But, all this outrage from the ES parents is a little bizarre. Is it that they don't want to pay for before-care? I

Before care isn’t as widely available as after care, as after care often translates into other after school activities. For example, it’s easy to staff a martial arts afterschool program because they’ll blend into evening classes.

The waitlist for before care SACC at late start elementary schools is long and the demand is high. Many parents already hate the 9:20 start time. Pushing it to 9:50 is adding salt to the wound.
False. SACC waitlists are much longer for aftercare. Hardly anyone is using the morning precare year after year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the schedules should remain the same.

But, all this outrage from the ES parents is a little bizarre. Is it that they don't want to pay for before-care? I



How is it bizarre? Literally the majority of working parents would need before care for a 9:50 start. Even with 9:20 start, SACC is filled. Things are EXPENSIVE as hell right now. Adding on a huge additional cost that wasn’t needed is a big deal. Secondly, my six year old is up at 6am daily and wouldn’t be starting his learning till almost 4 hours later. That is a waste and ridiculous.
Just put your DC to bed later so that they don’t wake up at 6am. There. Problem solved.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the schedules should remain the same.

But, all this outrage from the ES parents is a little bizarre. Is it that they don't want to pay for before-care? I

Before care isn’t as widely available as after care, as after care often translates into other after school activities. For example, it’s easy to staff a martial arts afterschool program because they’ll blend into evening classes.

The waitlist for before care SACC at late start elementary schools is long and the demand is high. Many parents already hate the 9:20 start time. Pushing it to 9:50 is adding salt to the wound.
False. SACC waitlists are much longer for aftercare. Hardly anyone is using the morning precare year after year.


There is no current waitlist because the school starts early enough for parents to be able to drop off their kids to school before heading to work. Once elementary school starts later, there will be a wait list.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
It is silly. For kids who need more sleep, parents need to be parents and have them go to bed. My HS kid has some activities that start at 3:30, and others that start at 7:30 and don't let out till 9:30 PM. A later start would be nice but a nightmare.


I read somewhere that they were kicking elementary to a really late start. What a nightmare for parents and kids.
Its actually welcomed in our neighborhood.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is the link to the page with the information.

No where does it say Changing Elementary start times or Changing High School start times.

Everything is written in a way that makes it seem only middle school times will change, or that the school board is even considering impacts to elementary or high school.

The process has been completely misleading because the entire schedule will be impacted, especially Elementary School.

https://www.fcps.edu/considering-change-middle-school-start-times-school-year-2025-26
Bruh—they have been talking about this for 10 years. The kids keep aging up and out at this point. They still need to solve the problem. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends at start time of after 8:30am for all kids. FCPS is far out of alignment with this recommendation and almost 70% of the rest of the USA. MS’ers are getting dropped at their schools at 7am. Get a clue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is the link to the page with the information.

No where does it say Changing Elementary start times or Changing High School start times.

Everything is written in a way that makes it seem only middle school times will change, or that the school board is even considering impacts to elementary or high school.

The process has been completely misleading because the entire schedule will be impacted, especially Elementary School.

https://www.fcps.edu/considering-change-middle-school-start-times-school-year-2025-26
Bruh—they have been talking about this for 10 years. The kids keep aging up and out at this point. They still need to solve the problem. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends at start time of after 8:30am for all kids. FCPS is far out of alignment with this recommendation and almost 70% of the rest of the USA. MS’ers are getting dropped at their schools at 7am. Get a clue.


In the past, when FCPS was near the top of the pecking order in school ratings, the high school students started shortly after 7 a.m. Was it popular? NO! Was it successful? Yes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the schedules should remain the same.

But, all this outrage from the ES parents is a little bizarre. Is it that they don't want to pay for before-care? I

Before care isn’t as widely available as after care, as after care often translates into other after school activities. For example, it’s easy to staff a martial arts afterschool program because they’ll blend into evening classes.

The waitlist for before care SACC at late start elementary schools is long and the demand is high. Many parents already hate the 9:20 start time. Pushing it to 9:50 is adding salt to the wound.
False. SACC waitlists are much longer for aftercare. Hardly anyone is using the morning precare year after year.

I’m specifically talking about late start elementary schools. Our elementary starts at 8:15, and I agree, hardly anyone uses morning SACC. Our friends have a 9:20 start time and they got into afternoon SACC before they made it off the morning waitlist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It is silly. For kids who need more sleep, parents need to be parents and have them go to bed. My HS kid has some activities that start at 3:30, and others that start at 7:30 and don't let out till 9:30 PM. A later start would be nice but a nightmare.


I read somewhere that they were kicking elementary to a really late start. What a nightmare for parents and kids.
Its actually welcomed in our neighborhood.


+1 let your school board rep know you like E!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the schedules should remain the same.

But, all this outrage from the ES parents is a little bizarre. Is it that they don't want to pay for before-care? I



How is it bizarre? Literally the majority of working parents would need before care for a 9:50 start. Even with 9:20 start, SACC is filled. Things are EXPENSIVE as hell right now. Adding on a huge additional cost that wasn’t needed is a big deal. Secondly, my six year old is up at 6am daily and wouldn’t be starting his learning till almost 4 hours later. That is a waste and ridiculous.
Just put your DC to bed later so that they don’t wake up at 6am. There. Problem solved.


Doesn’t matter. Tried that. If they go to bed later they are still up at 6. Many little kids are. I am saying this as a parents of middle schooler too. Option E only benefits middle school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think the schedules should remain the same.

But, all this outrage from the ES parents is a little bizarre. Is it that they don't want to pay for before-care? I


No. They want their kid to have time to play outside before its dark and otherwise have some free time. It is mostly the early ES parents. I mean really, a lot of Kindergarteners go to bed at like 7. If they get home at 5:30, it's dinner, bath, book,bed almost immediately after school. You don't think that is crazy? My kids are in HS but they got home at 4:30 in ES and it was pretty awful in the early grades. Anything later would be really, really ridiculous. And I have little stake in this because we would be fine with most of the proposed HS times.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the schedules should remain the same.

But, all this outrage from the ES parents is a little bizarre. Is it that they don't want to pay for before-care? I


No. They want their kid to have time to play outside before its dark and otherwise have some free time. It is mostly the early ES parents. I mean really, a lot of Kindergarteners go to bed at like 7. If they get home at 5:30, it's dinner, bath, book,bed almost immediately after school. You don't think that is crazy? My kids are in HS but they got home at 4:30 in ES and it was pretty awful in the early grades. Anything later would be really, really ridiculous. And I have little stake in this because we would be fine with most of the proposed HS times.



I'd want my ES and MS kids time to play or hang out with friends. Just because they're a little older doesn't mean they aren't kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the schedules should remain the same.

But, all this outrage from the ES parents is a little bizarre. Is it that they don't want to pay for before-care? I

Before care isn’t as widely available as after care, as after care often translates into other after school activities. For example, it’s easy to staff a martial arts afterschool program because they’ll blend into evening classes.

The waitlist for before care SACC at late start elementary schools is long and the demand is high. Many parents already hate the 9:20 start time. Pushing it to 9:50 is adding salt to the wound.
False. SACC waitlists are much longer for aftercare. Hardly anyone is using the morning precare year after year.

I’m specifically talking about late start elementary schools. Our elementary starts at 8:15, and I agree, hardly anyone uses morning SACC. Our friends have a 9:20 start time and they got into afternoon SACC before they made it off the morning waitlist.


I'm in a late start elementary. Our bus doesn't arrive until 8:55 in the morning. Far more parents use before care in our neighborhood than aftercare. There's really no way to make the 8:55 start work as it is unless you WFH and even then the 9 am start WFH people are racing to make 9 am calls.
Anonymous
Maybe FCPS could provide free morning childcare for the ES schools with the 9:50 start. Gatehouse staff could help out.
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