CEASEFIRE Announced

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course Israel backed out and fed us their usual lie-infested tripe that the other side is actually to blame (after Israel killed another 45+ innocent civilians overnight).

And now, coming to the stage … welcome back, FAFO guy!


Sure. Because Hamas is so trustworthy.


Neither side is. But when one side is so disproportionately being murdered by the other side, they tend not to be the ones with the natural motivation to extend their true colors into a life-or-death calculus.

Hamas is awful. Israel is awful 10x.


Losing does not make you more moral.

FAFO


Yes. Israel is not moral. No one thinks that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course Israel backed out and fed us their usual lie-infested tripe that the other side is actually to blame (after Israel killed another 45+ innocent civilians overnight).

And now, coming to the stage … welcome back, FAFO guy!


Sure. Because Hamas is so trustworthy.


Neither side is. But when one side is so disproportionately being murdered by the other side, they tend not to be the ones with the natural motivation to extend their true colors into a life-or-death calculus.

Hamas is awful. Israel is awful 10x.


Losing does not make you more moral.

FAFO


One side incurs more losses because it is weaker yet continues to engage in terror. Those are the "true colors" of which you speak.

We can safely predict that if a ceasefire occurs it will eventually end with another terrorist attack by Hamas, which will have exploited the ceasefire to rearm while proclaiming a "victory" despite all the civilian losses which mattered not in the slightest to them.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Big test of Trump’s seriousness is whether he can show more backbone than Biden. The U.S. should act like Israel needs our support, but it has for decades acted like we need to support Israel. Sad!


Trump doesn't even understand the dynamics here. He's been threatening Hamas, but they are not the sticking point. They've been willing to do this deal for a long time. Netanyahu and his cabinet are the problem.


Hamas has been holding out for a more permanent ceasefire. Israel can restart hostilities at any time with the current deal i think.


lol Hamas has been holding! That’s great propaganda work. Hamas agreed to this back in February. Israel could have exchanged prisoners back on Oct 15. Israel has killed any deal for over a year.

One of the big issue is any Israeli elected official who agrees to this will be assassinated.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So if it falls apart (like it seems to be doing) everyone praising Biden will accept it’s a Biden failure right?


Will everyone praising Trump accept that its Trump's fault?


Anytime someone praised Trump, they were told it was Bidens, not Trumps achievement.

If it’s his achievement, it’s his failure. Can’t be both.
Anonymous
Netanhitler never cared about any life - not the hostages, and of course not a single Palestinian. Peace is his kryptonite.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Zionists need to be removed from the Middle East.

US needs to stop all support for Zionism.

US needs to stop American Jews from manipulating US politics. maybe start taxing American Israel Education Foundation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC


Wouldn’t the United States benefit more from having a better relationship/standing with over 2 billion Muslims as opposed to blindly supporting Zionists in a small country? From the perspective of an average American, what would benefit them more?

Zionists have really succeeded in driving a wedge between Christians and Muslims. 2 faiths which are very similar and both believers in Jesus (something most Americans are unaware of)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zionists need to be removed from the Middle East.

US needs to stop all support for Zionism.

US needs to stop American Jews from manipulating US politics. maybe start taxing American Israel Education Foundation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC


Wouldn’t the United States benefit more from having a better relationship/standing with over 2 billion Muslims as opposed to blindly supporting Zionists in a small country? From the perspective of an average American, what would benefit them more?

Zionists have really succeeded in driving a wedge between Christians and Muslims. 2 faiths which are very similar and both believers in Jesus (something most Americans are unaware of)


Agreed. I also think that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are more similar to each other than any one of them to Zionism. The burden is on Zionists to show how they can make their extremism views happen without killing and stealing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zionists need to be removed from the Middle East.

US needs to stop all support for Zionism.

US needs to stop American Jews from manipulating US politics. maybe start taxing American Israel Education Foundation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC


Wouldn’t the United States benefit more from having a better relationship/standing with over 2 billion Muslims as opposed to blindly supporting Zionists in a small country? From the perspective of an average American, what would benefit them more?

Zionists have really succeeded in driving a wedge between Christians and Muslims. 2 faiths which are very similar and both believers in Jesus (something most Americans are unaware of)


No, because supporting Israel is to support values aligned with American values like fre3edom of religion, not theocratic values expressed by expansionist philosophies driven by a religiously fueled desire to eliminate other religions and the "infidels" who comprise them. Read up on the bandwagon fallacy in logic to see who suggesting support for one group because it is larger is fallacious reasoning.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Big test of Trump’s seriousness is whether he can show more backbone than Biden. The U.S. should act like Israel needs our support, but it has for decades acted like we need to support Israel. Sad!


Trump doesn't even understand the dynamics here. He's been threatening Hamas, but they are not the sticking point. They've been willing to do this deal for a long time. Netanyahu and his cabinet are the problem.


Hamas has been holding out for a more permanent ceasefire. Israel can restart hostilities at any time with the current deal i think.


lol Hamas has been holding! That’s great propaganda work. Hamas agreed to this back in February. Israel could have exchanged prisoners back on Oct 15. Israel has killed any deal for over a year.

One of the big issue is any Israeli elected official who agrees to this will be assassinated.


Well, Netanyahu awakened the dogs and he cant stop the barks now. Yitzhak Rabin's widow blamed Netanyahu for her husband's death. Everyone in Israel knew Netanyahu incited extremist violence by aiding and abetting fake stories about Rabin selling off Israel for Arab money or letting the intifada into Israel. None of it was true.

In fact, it was Netanyahu who always had a relationship with terror groups
Anonymous
So, now Netanyahu will be seen as the leftist and sell out in a country full of crazies worse than him reproducing at higher rates than all the moderates.

Netanyahu being seen as a moderate in Israel shows you how extreme right the country has become as a result of Hamas who Netanyahu long aided and abetted so he can kneecap the Labor Party and strengthen Likud. Pre-Netanyahu, Israel and Palestinians had leftist governments in charge
Anonymous
The only antidote is for Israelis and Palestinians to rise togehter and say no to right wing politicans. Down with Likud and Hamas needs ot be the common anthem not River to the Sea or FAFO
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zionists need to be removed from the Middle East.

US needs to stop all support for Zionism.

US needs to stop American Jews from manipulating US politics. maybe start taxing American Israel Education Foundation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC


Wouldn’t the United States benefit more from having a better relationship/standing with over 2 billion Muslims as opposed to blindly supporting Zionists in a small country? From the perspective of an average American, what would benefit them more?

Zionists have really succeeded in driving a wedge between Christians and Muslims. 2 faiths which are very similar and both believers in Jesus (something most Americans are unaware of)


Agreed. I also think that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are more similar to each other than any one of them to Zionism. The burden is on Zionists to show how they can make their extremism views happen without killing and stealing.


The Hadith and Talmud were written in the same exact time era mostly in Iraq and played off of each other.

The countries should really be divided on how religious you are because the line of extreme between super devout Jews and super devout Muslims is very very close even in terms of practice, thinking, ideology, rationale. Ultra orthodox Jews and ultra orthodox Muslim males for example wear hats and do not shake womens hands. Probably only 5% of Israelis and Palestinian men are this dogmatic. These 10% deserve their own country. They are off the beaten path from the general Israeli and Palestinian public.

Then, you have the not religious but politically dogmatic FAFO guys, right wingers. These guys deserve imprisonment across the board and to duke it out there. Everybody else who wants to live can share the land together as one state. Jerusalem is already shared and the West Bank and Israel are already shared among Arabs and Jews anyway.
Anonymous
American Jews have showed their cards.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zionists need to be removed from the Middle East.

US needs to stop all support for Zionism.

US needs to stop American Jews from manipulating US politics. maybe start taxing American Israel Education Foundation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC


Wouldn’t the United States benefit more from having a better relationship/standing with over 2 billion Muslims as opposed to blindly supporting Zionists in a small country? From the perspective of an average American, what would benefit them more?

Zionists have really succeeded in driving a wedge between Christians and Muslims. 2 faiths which are very similar and both believers in Jesus (something most Americans are unaware of)


No, because supporting Israel is to support values aligned with American values like fre3edom of religion, not theocratic values expressed by expansionist philosophies driven by a religiously fueled desire to eliminate other religions and the "infidels" who comprise them. Read up on the bandwagon fallacy in logic to see who suggesting support for one group because it is larger is fallacious reasoning.


Lol values? Ok hasbera detected!
Anonymous
I can't figure out why. They are so peaceful. They certainly do not reign terror on their neighbors.
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