Saw the Trump comment re: telework and dismissal, any words of sane advice

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Saw this directly from Trump not doge https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-challenges-union-deal-remote-work-policies-federal-workers/#

I am not union so no lawsuits to drag out - just a remote employee with stellar performance. Besides looking for jobs in private sector what else can I do? Have been a remote employee since pre pandemic. You all have been sane in your commentary about doge but it seems that all hope is lost with it coming from Trump now. I really love my job and I’d move back if it wasn’t for my kids and schools.


Elon’s going to find out pretty quickly that sending people to Mars will be so much easier than sending them back to their desks.


Sending people to Mars is going to be quite the challenge when all the retirement-eligible people at NASA quit if they have to go in 5 days per week.


Why do we need NASA when we have SpaceX?
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Anonymous wrote:Assuming there is some period of time
Before these RTO orders actually go into effect, do you all plan to go in to the office before then? Knowing that politicals will view that more favorably? Or just wait until you’re actually required to be there every day?


Well I don’t have an office (even though I’m local to DC). I have a place where I can go to pick up a new badge or get my computer fixed. But I have to arrange for someone to let me in because I don’t have direct building access and then no one I work with would be there because they’re spread all over. So no I won’t be going into a place that doesn’t exist.


Right. Our building does not have enough space for everyone. Forget office space. There aren’t enough chairs or places to put desks, unless people work in conference rooms and not sure that will even be enough.


If everyone returns 5 days a week at my agency, we will be sitting on the floor in the halls.


Wow that's great, you will start collaborating and thinking outside the box.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Saw this directly from Trump not doge https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-challenges-union-deal-remote-work-policies-federal-workers/#

I am not union so no lawsuits to drag out - just a remote employee with stellar performance. Besides looking for jobs in private sector what else can I do? Have been a remote employee since pre pandemic. You all have been sane in your commentary about doge but it seems that all hope is lost with it coming from Trump now. I really love my job and I’d move back if it wasn’t for my kids and schools.


Elon’s going to find out pretty quickly that sending people to Mars will be so much easier than sending them back to their desks.


Sending people to Mars is going to be quite the challenge when all the retirement-eligible people at NASA quit if they have to go in 5 days per week.


They’ll retire and take their knowledge, skills and experience to SpaceX and watch their money go further in Texas.


No, because spaceX is notorious for churning and burning through young engineers, expecting 60-70 work weeks. I'm not sure why that's a good thing.


Retirees with nice pensions will take the money and run a few years later.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Assuming there is some period of time
Before these RTO orders actually go into effect, do you all plan to go in to the office before then? Knowing that politicals will view that more favorably? Or just wait until you’re actually required to be there every day?


Well I don’t have an office (even though I’m local to DC). I have a place where I can go to pick up a new badge or get my computer fixed. But I have to arrange for someone to let me in because I don’t have direct building access and then no one I work with would be there because they’re spread all over. So no I won’t be going into a place that doesn’t exist.


Right. Our building does not have enough space for everyone. Forget office space. There aren’t enough chairs or places to put desks, unless people work in conference rooms and not sure that will even be enough.


If everyone returns 5 days a week at my agency, we will be sitting on the floor in the halls.


Wow that's great, you will start collaborating and thinking outside the box.


And we can all catch Covid again together too! What a bonus.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Assuming there is some period of time
Before these RTO orders actually go into effect, do you all plan to go in to the office before then? Knowing that politicals will view that more favorably? Or just wait until you’re actually required to be there every day?


Well I don’t have an office (even though I’m local to DC). I have a place where I can go to pick up a new badge or get my computer fixed. But I have to arrange for someone to let me in because I don’t have direct building access and then no one I work with would be there because they’re spread all over. So no I won’t be going into a place that doesn’t exist.


Right. Our building does not have enough space for everyone. Forget office space. There aren’t enough chairs or places to put desks, unless people work in conference rooms and not sure that will even be enough.


If everyone returns 5 days a week at my agency, we will be sitting on the floor in the halls.


Wow that's great, you will start collaborating and thinking outside the box.


And we can all catch Covid again together too! What a bonus.


thats a plus as far as pensions are concerned
Anonymous
It sucks. We are currently at 3 days per week in office, which is ok enough, but if it went to 5 days, I would really not want to work here any more - which is probably the point of it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saw this directly from Trump not doge https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-challenges-union-deal-remote-work-policies-federal-workers/#

I am not union so no lawsuits to drag out - just a remote employee with stellar performance. Besides looking for jobs in private sector what else can I do? Have been a remote employee since pre pandemic. You all have been sane in your commentary about doge but it seems that all hope is lost with it coming from Trump now. I really love my job and I’d move back if it wasn’t for my kids and schools.


Elon’s going to find out pretty quickly that sending people to Mars will be so much easier than sending them back to their desks.


Sending people to Mars is going to be quite the challenge when all the retirement-eligible people at NASA quit if they have to go in 5 days per week.


Why do we need NASA when we have SpaceX?


Ah, the real reason pops up. Let's get rid of any SpaceX competition and snap up those lower earning feds / contractors when they get laid off.
Anonymous
So stupid and short sighted. My office is fully remote. It's very much individual work more so than collaborative. There is ZERO need to go into an office to do it. Performance figures for each person are tracked regularly. If you have a problem meeting the performance figures then the telework agreement will be cancelled. There is a small office for those who either prefer to work in person or are required to, but it would not fit everybody in the office full time.

For those maintaining the telework agreement, managers don't tend to care when the work is done as long as it is done. This arrangement actually benefits the office long term because I am able to work around other brief commitments like kids events at school or doctor appointments without taking a half or full day of leave. Sometimes I work as early as 5 am and as late as midnight to ensure it gets done to save my personal leave. I havent taken sick leave in almost a year. Last summer I even felt well enough to work through COVID. Sometimes our office gets a backlog for various reasons and it's also easier to just walk into my home office and put in a couple (paid) extra hours (when authorized by management to manage the backlog) that would have otherwise been spent on a commute. I hope whoever makes these decisions at our agency thinks about this sort of stuff before ordering some blanket RTO order.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Assuming there is some period of time
Before these RTO orders actually go into effect, do you all plan to go in to the office before then? Knowing that politicals will view that more favorably? Or just wait until you’re actually required to be there every day?


Well I don’t have an office (even though I’m local to DC). I have a place where I can go to pick up a new badge or get my computer fixed. But I have to arrange for someone to let me in because I don’t have direct building access and then no one I work with would be there because they’re spread all over. So no I won’t be going into a place that doesn’t exist.


Right. Our building does not have enough space for everyone. Forget office space. There aren’t enough chairs or places to put desks, unless people work in conference rooms and not sure that will even be enough.


If everyone returns 5 days a week at my agency, we will be sitting on the floor in the halls.


Wow that's great, you will start collaborating and thinking outside the box.


And we can all catch Covid again together too! What a bonus.


thats a plus as far as pensions are concerned


Most of us aren't in the old school generous federal pension plans anyhow. Those people have long retired, so it's not going to save that much in the long run.

Assume most republicans would rather kill us than have us alive anyhow, so I guess it's a win win for them either way, whether it saves that much money or not.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Assuming there is some period of time
Before these RTO orders actually go into effect, do you all plan to go in to the office before then? Knowing that politicals will view that more favorably? Or just wait until you’re actually required to be there every day?


Well I don’t have an office (even though I’m local to DC). I have a place where I can go to pick up a new badge or get my computer fixed. But I have to arrange for someone to let me in because I don’t have direct building access and then no one I work with would be there because they’re spread all over. So no I won’t be going into a place that doesn’t exist.


Right. Our building does not have enough space for everyone. Forget office space. There aren’t enough chairs or places to put desks, unless people work in conference rooms and not sure that will even be enough.


If everyone returns 5 days a week at my agency, we will be sitting on the floor in the halls.


Wow that's great, you will start collaborating and thinking outside the box.


We have been told that we may be assigned to different buildings since they will need more space. MD people might be in Baltimore and VA people in DC. Obviously we will not be getting any benefit from multiple locations.
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Anonymous wrote:I would like to see Trump wake up at 6;00, make himself breakfast and DRIVE HIMSELF to an office sixty minutes away, park his own car, make his own lunch, etc. You know that none of these guys could hack this themselves!!!


He is a legendary workaholic. At 78 he sleeps 4-5 hours a night. Back in his hey day in NYC in the 1970s and early 1980s he used to sleep 1-3 hours a night. He used to get at work at 7am and often with events and meetings get home at 3am and back at work at 7am.

He is in NY, NJ, Florida, UK, DC often within a few day period. I dont know how he does it. Then he does dinner and breakfast meeting. Musk is also like that. These guys will do 100 hour work weeks no problem. And do it for decades no problem.


What? In his last term he famously wasn't available to work until after noon. Why do you buy this nonsense?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would like to see Trump wake up at 6;00, make himself breakfast and DRIVE HIMSELF to an office sixty minutes away, park his own car, make his own lunch, etc. You know that none of these guys could hack this themselves!!!


He is a legendary workaholic. At 78 he sleeps 4-5 hours a night. Back in his hey day in NYC in the 1970s and early 1980s he used to sleep 1-3 hours a night. He used to get at work at 7am and often with events and meetings get home at 3am and back at work at 7am.

He is in NY, NJ, Florida, UK, DC often within a few day period. I dont know how he does it. Then he does dinner and breakfast meeting. Musk is also like that. These guys will do 100 hour work weeks no problem. And do it for decades no problem.

It’s easy to stay up all night when all you do each day is watch TV and eat hamburgers


Do you remember when he tweeted about a New York Times article that talked about this and he kept spelling hamburger wrong.
Anonymous
Well they honestly believe that only 6% of employees work in office. So basically on day 2 of his administration someone will tell him that 50% are in office and he'll declare mission accomplished.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well they honestly believe that only 6% of employees work in office. So basically on day 2 of his administration someone will tell him that 50% are in office and he'll declare mission accomplished.


lol!!!! They did it!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why not start looking? You don’t have to accept a job if offered. See what’s out there!


This is what I would do, at a minimum, get your CV ready.

As a former government employee, I agree that employees take less pay for better work life balance, or maybe for more interesting work. But it is also true that there is a great deal of unpredictability, government shut downs have been threatened for the past two decades, Republicans always run on cutting spending, even if they don’t, etc. . . There is just no promise of stability with a government job.
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