Any Emory ED1ers?

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-covid Vanderbilt had much higher SAT scores than Emory.

Emory is a decent school, but with the games they play with lying about their SAT's, having the community college part of it to hide the lower stat students in Oxford, it isn't on the same level as Vanderbilt.

It is in a tier with BU, Villanova, NEU, Lehigh, Bucknell, Tufts.

It is not in the Vanderbilt tier of Duke, Vandy, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, etc.

God I hate this thread but stop with the nonsense. Emory, Vandy. Rice, WashU, BC, Duke, UChicago (which is not was it was) are all the same tier. About the same to get in. BU? that is several tiers below as are the rest on your list. There are not kids going -- BU or Emory/ Bucknell or Emory. Just does not happen.

This is the stupidest tiering of all time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-covid Vanderbilt had much higher SAT scores than Emory.

Emory is a decent school, but with the games they play with lying about their SAT's, having the community college part of it to hide the lower stat students in Oxford, it isn't on the same level as Vanderbilt.

It is in a tier with BU, Villanova, NEU, Lehigh, Bucknell, Tufts.

It is not in the Vanderbilt tier of Duke, Vandy, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, etc.

Why does it matter what 2019 test scores were which are now 5 years old vs. current test scores. If anything, shouldn't Vandy have much higher scores with only 51% submitting?

Vandy is in the tier of Notre Dame and Rice, while Emory is with WashU and Georgetown. Emory is closer to Vandy, then Vandy is to any of the schools you mention.

You have a weird grudge for something that happened 12 years ago.

Emory is not in the same tier as Georgetown. Just stop. It is more like a Tulane than Georgetown.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow Weird all the hostility going back and forth here. I have had three kids a a Big Three school recently go through this process and Vanderbilt and Emory are EXACTLY the same in terms of difficulty. You guys can try to split hairs all you want. They attract the same kids : High stats great grades great extracurriculars- Both School land right below the Ivys.
OVERALL Vanderbilt last year was at 6 % admittance rate and Emory at 10 %
THAT TELLS YOU NOTHING about what it means for how hard it is for kids from the DMV. They are both high reaches for any high stats kids in our area. The kids who freak out and ED to either school are scared they won't get into the IVY's and don't want to roll the dice.

Also nepotism matters way more at Vandy. Last year the kids from our Big Three who got in there were ALL connected (but academically respectable if not stellar) and one of my kid's smartest friends ended up at Emory. All this is not statistically relevant. Both are tough admits.

Weird, at our private, you need to be in the top 10 percent of class to get into Vandy and the kids who go to Emory aren’t even in the top 20 percent. Completely different applicant pools.

Just not true. No way you know where all these kids are. And for a private top 20% would work at both schools. Not for publics.

It is true. I know who is the top 10 and 20 percent based on whether they were admitted to cum laude, and when they were admitted (top 10 percent admitted semester earlier) and our school gives annual awards for best gpa. I also know that Vandy has taken 0 or 1 kid the past few years, and that kid has been in cum laude society. The Val wa rejected with near perfect SAT scores a year or two ago, in ED. I also know that 3 to 4 kids each year attend Emory and none have been in cum laude society. A few have been hooked but most aren’t.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but you are making Vanderbilt out to be some impossible school when every year our public DCPS school sends 1 or 2 kids to Vanderbilt who aren't the valedictorian and don't have near perfect SAT scores (though they do have strong grades and strong SAT scores).

The published stats at the schools aren't much different. Who knows why your school strikes out with Vanderbilt...maybe prior accepted kids didn't do well or something weird.

It’s the same case as every private in our city, it may be that Vandy is taking more public school kids and less private. Up until 2022, they took more kids from our school.

A school with an acceptance rate that is half that of another, however is by definition a harder admit.

Emory CDS: 1470 - 1540 SAT with 61% submitting; 84% in top 10% of class and 98% in top 25% and 99.7% in top 50%
Vandy CDS: 1500 - 1560 SAT with 51% submitting; 92.% in top 10% of class and 95.3% in top 25% and 98.3% in top 50%

While yes it is a harder admit to Vandy, when it comes to test scores and class rank they are very similar...in fact Vanderbilt accepts slightly more kids outside the top 25% of the class which make may be the D1 athlete impact.

Ranking data is usually meaningless because so few applicants submit a class rank.

Your comment doesn't make any sense in the context of the CDS. Somebody is doing some kind of ranking because 100% of both school's admits are somehow ranked.

You are reading it incorrectly. Those percentages reflect the standing of kids who submit rank, and that’s a very small group.

I think PP is correct...the HS comes up with some kind of ranking criteria. They us blunt cutoffs...top 10%, top 25%, top 50%, not rankings down to the individual.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-covid Vanderbilt had much higher SAT scores than Emory.

Emory is a decent school, but with the games they play with lying about their SAT's, having the community college part of it to hide the lower stat students in Oxford, it isn't on the same level as Vanderbilt.

It is in a tier with BU, Villanova, NEU, Lehigh, Bucknell, Tufts.

It is not in the Vanderbilt tier of Duke, Vandy, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, etc.

Why does it matter what 2019 test scores were which are now 5 years old vs. current test scores. If anything, shouldn't Vandy have much higher scores with only 51% submitting?

Vandy is in the tier of Notre Dame and Rice, while Emory is with WashU and Georgetown. Emory is closer to Vandy, then Vandy is to any of the schools you mention.

You have a weird grudge for something that happened 12 years ago.

Emory is not in the same tier as Georgetown. Just stop. It is more like a Tulane than Georgetown.

No, it literally is in the same tier as Georgetown. What's funny is someone in a different thread (one on Williams and Georgetown) posted World rankings of Universities and Emory was like 190 and Georgetown wasn't even in the top 500.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow Weird all the hostility going back and forth here. I have had three kids a a Big Three school recently go through this process and Vanderbilt and Emory are EXACTLY the same in terms of difficulty. You guys can try to split hairs all you want. They attract the same kids : High stats great grades great extracurriculars- Both School land right below the Ivys.
OVERALL Vanderbilt last year was at 6 % admittance rate and Emory at 10 %
THAT TELLS YOU NOTHING about what it means for how hard it is for kids from the DMV. They are both high reaches for any high stats kids in our area. The kids who freak out and ED to either school are scared they won't get into the IVY's and don't want to roll the dice.

Also nepotism matters way more at Vandy. Last year the kids from our Big Three who got in there were ALL connected (but academically respectable if not stellar) and one of my kid's smartest friends ended up at Emory. All this is not statistically relevant. Both are tough admits.

Weird, at our private, you need to be in the top 10 percent of class to get into Vandy and the kids who go to Emory aren’t even in the top 20 percent. Completely different applicant pools.

Just not true. No way you know where all these kids are. And for a private top 20% would work at both schools. Not for publics.

It is true. I know who is the top 10 and 20 percent based on whether they were admitted to cum laude, and when they were admitted (top 10 percent admitted semester earlier) and our school gives annual awards for best gpa. I also know that Vandy has taken 0 or 1 kid the past few years, and that kid has been in cum laude society. The Val wa rejected with near perfect SAT scores a year or two ago, in ED. I also know that 3 to 4 kids each year attend Emory and none have been in cum laude society. A few have been hooked but most aren’t.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but you are making Vanderbilt out to be some impossible school when every year our public DCPS school sends 1 or 2 kids to Vanderbilt who aren't the valedictorian and don't have near perfect SAT scores (though they do have strong grades and strong SAT scores).

The published stats at the schools aren't much different. Who knows why your school strikes out with Vanderbilt...maybe prior accepted kids didn't do well or something weird.

It’s the same case as every private in our city, it may be that Vandy is taking more public school kids and less private. Up until 2022, they took more kids from our school.

A school with an acceptance rate that is half that of another, however is by definition a harder admit.

Emory CDS: 1470 - 1540 SAT with 61% submitting; 84% in top 10% of class and 98% in top 25% and 99.7% in top 50%
Vandy CDS: 1500 - 1560 SAT with 51% submitting; 92.% in top 10% of class and 95.3% in top 25% and 98.3% in top 50%

While yes it is a harder admit to Vandy, when it comes to test scores and class rank they are very similar...in fact Vanderbilt accepts slightly more kids outside the top 25% of the class which make may be the D1 athlete impact.

Ranking data is usually meaningless because so few applicants submit a class rank.

Your comment doesn't make any sense in the context of the CDS. Somebody is doing some kind of ranking because 100% of both school's admits are somehow ranked.

You are reading it incorrectly. Those percentages reflect the standing of kids who submit rank, and that’s a very small group.

I think PP is correct...the HS comes up with some kind of ranking criteria. They us blunt cutoffs...top 10%, top 25%, top 50%, not rankings down to the individual.

You both need to improve you reading skills, the cds makes coear the percentages reflect only those kids who reported class. A small number of schools still do so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-covid Vanderbilt had much higher SAT scores than Emory.

Emory is a decent school, but with the games they play with lying about their SAT's, having the community college part of it to hide the lower stat students in Oxford, it isn't on the same level as Vanderbilt.

It is in a tier with BU, Villanova, NEU, Lehigh, Bucknell, Tufts.

It is not in the Vanderbilt tier of Duke, Vandy, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, etc.

Why does it matter what 2019 test scores were which are now 5 years old vs. current test scores. If anything, shouldn't Vandy have much higher scores with only 51% submitting?

Vandy is in the tier of Notre Dame and Rice, while Emory is with WashU and Georgetown. Emory is closer to Vandy, then Vandy is to any of the schools you mention.

You have a weird grudge for something that happened 12 years ago.

Emory is not in the same tier as Georgetown. Just stop. It is more like a Tulane than Georgetown.

Georgetown is test mandatory. Most don't even submit to Emory. Emory is relatively easy to get in early decision with an acceptance rate of over 35%. Plus they admit kids off the books into Oxford. Georgetown's REA is only 12%. Emory is shit compared to Georgetown.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow Weird all the hostility going back and forth here. I have had three kids a a Big Three school recently go through this process and Vanderbilt and Emory are EXACTLY the same in terms of difficulty. You guys can try to split hairs all you want. They attract the same kids : High stats great grades great extracurriculars- Both School land right below the Ivys.
OVERALL Vanderbilt last year was at 6 % admittance rate and Emory at 10 %
THAT TELLS YOU NOTHING about what it means for how hard it is for kids from the DMV. They are both high reaches for any high stats kids in our area. The kids who freak out and ED to either school are scared they won't get into the IVY's and don't want to roll the dice.

Also nepotism matters way more at Vandy. Last year the kids from our Big Three who got in there were ALL connected (but academically respectable if not stellar) and one of my kid's smartest friends ended up at Emory. All this is not statistically relevant. Both are tough admits.

Weird, at our private, you need to be in the top 10 percent of class to get into Vandy and the kids who go to Emory aren’t even in the top 20 percent. Completely different applicant pools.

Just not true. No way you know where all these kids are. And for a private top 20% would work at both schools. Not for publics.

It is true. I know who is the top 10 and 20 percent based on whether they were admitted to cum laude, and when they were admitted (top 10 percent admitted semester earlier) and our school gives annual awards for best gpa. I also know that Vandy has taken 0 or 1 kid the past few years, and that kid has been in cum laude society. The Val wa rejected with near perfect SAT scores a year or two ago, in ED. I also know that 3 to 4 kids each year attend Emory and none have been in cum laude society. A few have been hooked but most aren’t.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but you are making Vanderbilt out to be some impossible school when every year our public DCPS school sends 1 or 2 kids to Vanderbilt who aren't the valedictorian and don't have near perfect SAT scores (though they do have strong grades and strong SAT scores).

The published stats at the schools aren't much different. Who knows why your school strikes out with Vanderbilt...maybe prior accepted kids didn't do well or something weird.

It’s the same case as every private in our city, it may be that Vandy is taking more public school kids and less private. Up until 2022, they took more kids from our school.

A school with an acceptance rate that is half that of another, however is by definition a harder admit.

Emory CDS: 1470 - 1540 SAT with 61% submitting; 84% in top 10% of class and 98% in top 25% and 99.7% in top 50%
Vandy CDS: 1500 - 1560 SAT with 51% submitting; 92.% in top 10% of class and 95.3% in top 25% and 98.3% in top 50%

While yes it is a harder admit to Vandy, when it comes to test scores and class rank they are very similar...in fact Vanderbilt accepts slightly more kids outside the top 25% of the class which make may be the D1 athlete impact.

Ranking data is usually meaningless because so few applicants submit a class rank.

Your comment doesn't make any sense in the context of the CDS. Somebody is doing some kind of ranking because 100% of both school's admits are somehow ranked.

You are reading it incorrectly. Those percentages reflect the standing of kids who submit rank, and that’s a very small group.

I think PP is correct...the HS comes up with some kind of ranking criteria. They us blunt cutoffs...top 10%, top 25%, top 50%, not rankings down to the individual.

You both need to improve you reading skills, the cds makes coear the percentages reflect only those kids who reported class. A small number of schools still do so.

Should be kids who reported class rank. It in the parenthetical above the chart.

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-covid Vanderbilt had much higher SAT scores than Emory.

Emory is a decent school, but with the games they play with lying about their SAT's, having the community college part of it to hide the lower stat students in Oxford, it isn't on the same level as Vanderbilt.

It is in a tier with BU, Villanova, NEU, Lehigh, Bucknell, Tufts.

It is not in the Vanderbilt tier of Duke, Vandy, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, etc.

Why does it matter what 2019 test scores were which are now 5 years old vs. current test scores. If anything, shouldn't Vandy have much higher scores with only 51% submitting?

Vandy is in the tier of Notre Dame and Rice, while Emory is with WashU and Georgetown. Emory is closer to Vandy, then Vandy is to any of the schools you mention.

You have a weird grudge for something that happened 12 years ago.

Emory is not in the same tier as Georgetown. Just stop. It is more like a Tulane than Georgetown.

Georgetown is test mandatory. Most don't even submit to Emory. Emory is relatively easy to get in early decision with an acceptance rate of over 35%. Plus they admit kids off the books into Oxford. Georgetown's REA is only 12%. Emory is shit compared to Georgetown.

Most do submit to Emory (61% last year) and you can rant and rave all you want...but whatever Georgetown is doing isn't working with the rankings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-covid Vanderbilt had much higher SAT scores than Emory.

Emory is a decent school, but with the games they play with lying about their SAT's, having the community college part of it to hide the lower stat students in Oxford, it isn't on the same level as Vanderbilt.

It is in a tier with BU, Villanova, NEU, Lehigh, Bucknell, Tufts.

It is not in the Vanderbilt tier of Duke, Vandy, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, etc.

Why does it matter what 2019 test scores were which are now 5 years old vs. current test scores. If anything, shouldn't Vandy have much higher scores with only 51% submitting?

Vandy is in the tier of Notre Dame and Rice, while Emory is with WashU and Georgetown. Emory is closer to Vandy, then Vandy is to any of the schools you mention.

You have a weird grudge for something that happened 12 years ago.

Emory is not in the same tier as Georgetown. Just stop. It is more like a Tulane than Georgetown.

Georgetown is test mandatory. Most don't even submit to Emory. Emory is relatively easy to get in early decision with an acceptance rate of over 35%. Plus they admit kids off the books into Oxford. Georgetown's REA is only 12%. Emory is shit compared to Georgetown.

Most do submit to Emory (61% last year) and you can rant and rave all you want...but whatever Georgetown is doing isn't working with the rankings.

I didn’t post anything about Georgetown.

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Lots of high stat students hiding at Oxford. People can be so cruel.

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-covid Vanderbilt had much higher SAT scores than Emory.

Emory is a decent school, but with the games they play with lying about their SAT's, having the community college part of it to hide the lower stat students in Oxford, it isn't on the same level as Vanderbilt.

It is in a tier with BU, Villanova, NEU, Lehigh, Bucknell, Tufts.

It is not in the Vanderbilt tier of Duke, Vandy, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, etc.

Why does it matter what 2019 test scores were which are now 5 years old vs. current test scores. If anything, shouldn't Vandy have much higher scores with only 51% submitting?

Vandy is in the tier of Notre Dame and Rice, while Emory is with WashU and Georgetown. Emory is closer to Vandy, then Vandy is to any of the schools you mention.

You have a weird grudge for something that happened 12 years ago.

Emory is not in the same tier as Georgetown. Just stop. It is more like a Tulane than Georgetown.

Georgetown is test mandatory. Most don't even submit to Emory. Emory is relatively easy to get in early decision with an acceptance rate of over 35%. Plus they admit kids off the books into Oxford. Georgetown's REA is only 12%. Emory is shit compared to Georgetown.

Most do submit to Emory (61% last year) and you can rant and rave all you want...but whatever Georgetown is doing isn't working with the rankings.

Only 42% submitted an SAT score. 19% submitted an ACT score. However, there are always 10-15% who submit both. A majority of students at Emory are TO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-covid Vanderbilt had much higher SAT scores than Emory.

Emory is a decent school, but with the games they play with lying about their SAT's, having the community college part of it to hide the lower stat students in Oxford, it isn't on the same level as Vanderbilt.

It is in a tier with BU, Villanova, NEU, Lehigh, Bucknell, Tufts.

It is not in the Vanderbilt tier of Duke, Vandy, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, etc.

Why does it matter what 2019 test scores were which are now 5 years old vs. current test scores. If anything, shouldn't Vandy have much higher scores with only 51% submitting?

Vandy is in the tier of Notre Dame and Rice, while Emory is with WashU and Georgetown. Emory is closer to Vandy, then Vandy is to any of the schools you mention.

You have a weird grudge for something that happened 12 years ago.

Emory is not in the same tier as Georgetown. Just stop. It is more like a Tulane than Georgetown.

Georgetown is test mandatory. Most don't even submit to Emory. Emory is relatively easy to get in early decision with an acceptance rate of over 35%. Plus they admit kids off the books into Oxford. Georgetown's REA is only 12%. Emory is shit compared to Georgetown.

Most do submit to Emory (61% last year) and you can rant and rave all you want...but whatever Georgetown is doing isn't working with the rankings.

Only 42% submitted an SAT score. 19% submitted an ACT score. However, there are always 10-15% who submit both. A majority of students at Emory are TO.

Even if true (when at the high end it's 10% but more like 5%), the math still doesn't get you to a majority at TO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-covid Vanderbilt had much higher SAT scores than Emory.

Emory is a decent school, but with the games they play with lying about their SAT's, having the community college part of it to hide the lower stat students in Oxford, it isn't on the same level as Vanderbilt.

It is in a tier with BU, Villanova, NEU, Lehigh, Bucknell, Tufts.

It is not in the Vanderbilt tier of Duke, Vandy, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, etc.

Why does it matter what 2019 test scores were which are now 5 years old vs. current test scores. If anything, shouldn't Vandy have much higher scores with only 51% submitting?

Vandy is in the tier of Notre Dame and Rice, while Emory is with WashU and Georgetown. Emory is closer to Vandy, then Vandy is to any of the schools you mention.

You have a weird grudge for something that happened 12 years ago.

Emory is not in the same tier as Georgetown. Just stop. It is more like a Tulane than Georgetown.

Georgetown is test mandatory. Most don't even submit to Emory. Emory is relatively easy to get in early decision with an acceptance rate of over 35%. Plus they admit kids off the books into Oxford. Georgetown's REA is only 12%. Emory is shit compared to Georgetown.

Most do submit to Emory (61% last year) and you can rant and rave all you want...but whatever Georgetown is doing isn't working with the rankings.

Only 42% submitted an SAT score. 19% submitted an ACT score. However, there are always 10-15% who submit both. A majority of students at Emory are TO.

Even if true (when at the high end it's 10% but more like 5%), the math still doesn't get you to a majority at TO.

Here's my back of the envelope rocket surgery calculation: about half of Emory students are admitted test optional.

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Anonymous wrote:Pre-covid Vanderbilt had much higher SAT scores than Emory.

Emory is a decent school, but with the games they play with lying about their SAT's, having the community college part of it to hide the lower stat students in Oxford, it isn't on the same level as Vanderbilt.

It is in a tier with BU, Villanova, NEU, Lehigh, Bucknell, Tufts.

It is not in the Vanderbilt tier of Duke, Vandy, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, etc.

Omg this troll.

[Anonymous]

I reminder than Emory receives an 86/100 on USnews, and Vandy Received an 88/100. Also both schools name each other as peer schools. Also Vandys median sat score is only 20 points higher than Emorys.