Any Emory ED1ers?

[Anonymous]

Based on the 2023 Common Data Ser, half of Emory's freshmen are test optional. Worse, the CDS DOESN'T include Oxford. So a whole bunch of Emory students are test optional.

I am not sure why the Emory mom is so perturbed by that. There is no stigma in being test optional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on the 2023 Common Data Ser, half of Emory's freshmen are test optional. Worse, the CDS DOESN'T include Oxford. So a whole bunch of Emory students are test optional.

I am not sure why the Emory mom is so perturbed by that. There is no stigma in being test optional.

38% were test optional, seems like math isn't you're sting suit. And you can find Oxfords enrolled stats here...
https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Emory&s=all&id=487092

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on the 2023 Common Data Ser, half of Emory's freshmen are test optional. Worse, the CDS DOESN'T include Oxford. So a whole bunch of Emory students are test optional.

I am not sure why the Emory mom is so perturbed by that. There is no stigma in being test optional.

PP apparently Oxford had higher stats than Emory last year. 33-35, 1450-1550, 1510, 34
58% submitted vs 62% for Emory

[Anonymous]

I don't get the Emory, Vanderbilt, and Rice comparisons. They are all T25 schools with great students. But they are very distinct, particularly Rice and Vanderbilt. I get they are all in the South, but there's not a lot of commonality. US News jumped the shark a couple of years ago, so it's not a useful metric anymore. Emory, Vanderbilt, and Rice are all swimming in the same sea as Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown, Chicago, Columbia, Northwestern, Michigan, WashU, Georgetown, and Notre Dame.

Judging from other rankings, Rice is clearly the top academic school. And Vanderbilt is Vanderbilt. But Emory more than holds their own these days. But when it comes to "prestige," the Oxford thing is not helpful for Emory. It's a very Northeastern thing to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't get the Emory, Vanderbilt, and Rice comparisons. They are all T25 schools with great students. But they are very distinct, particularly Rice and Vanderbilt. I get they are all in the South, but there's not a lot of commonality. US News jumped the shark a couple of years ago, so it's not a useful metric anymore. Emory, Vanderbilt, and Rice are all swimming in the same sea as Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown, Chicago, Columbia, Northwestern, Michigan, WashU, Georgetown, and Notre Dame.

Judging from other rankings, Rice is clearly the top academic school. And Vanderbilt is Vanderbilt. But Emory more than holds their own these days. But when it comes to "prestige," the Oxford thing is not helpful for Emory. It's a very Northeastern thing to do.

Yes they are peer schools but Rice is the lowest asked if you combine all the rankings. Its ranked #223 in the global rankings vs 63 for the other 2.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rice-university-227757
Also Vandy has a 4.3 reputation score for the undergrad ranking, while Emory and Rice have a 4.2. So Emory more than holds its own. Also, Oxford was Emory’s first campus, they moved to Atlanta in 1911. What should they have done with their original campus? Oxford is the most selective 2 year school on earth. That speaks for something.

[Anonymous]

Like it or not, Emory mom always brings the facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't get the Emory, Vanderbilt, and Rice comparisons. They are all T25 schools with great students. But they are very distinct, particularly Rice and Vanderbilt. I get they are all in the South, but there's not a lot of commonality. US News jumped the shark a couple of years ago, so it's not a useful metric anymore. Emory, Vanderbilt, and Rice are all swimming in the same sea as Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown, Chicago, Columbia, Northwestern, Michigan, WashU, Georgetown, and Notre Dame.

Judging from other rankings, Rice is clearly the top academic school. And Vanderbilt is Vanderbilt. But Emory more than holds their own these days. But when it comes to "prestige," the Oxford thing is not helpful for Emory. It's a very Northeastern thing to do.

Yes they are peer schools but Rice is the lowest asked if you combine all the rankings. Its ranked #223 in the global rankings vs 63 for the other 2.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rice-university-227757
Also Vandy has a 4.3 reputation score for the undergrad ranking, while Emory and Rice have a 4.2. So Emory more than holds its own. Also, Oxford was Emory’s first campus, they moved to Atlanta in 1911. What should they have done with their original campus? Oxford is the most selective 2 year school on earth. That speaks for something.

223? Looks like a typo.

[Anonymous]

Oxford has a negative reputation on this forum but if it was that bad, kids wouldn’t be checking the Oxford box for ED1 or ED2. Lots of other options if they want a small exurban/suburban liberal arts campus.

[Anonymous]

The backdoor way into Emory isn't much different than what NYU or BU do with their spring admits or Northeastern does with its study abroad for the first semester. Emory/Oxford gets enough qualified applicants that it should be looked at as a positive that more students get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The backdoor way into Emory isn't much different than what NYU or BU do with their spring admits or Northeastern does with its study abroad for the first semester. Emory/Oxford gets enough qualified applicants that it should be looked at as a positive that more students get in.

It is not a backdoor way in. Oxford stats the same or higher.

[Anonymous]

Wow. I did not know that Emory takes 70% of its freshmen class from early decision. This is very out of the norm for most colleges. Why does it do this?

2023-2024
Total number of freshmen 1,426
Total number taken Early Decision 945

This is really odd and I am not sure if this is the correct figures???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. I did not know that Emory takes 70% of its freshmen class from early decision. This is very out of the norm for most colleges. Why does it do this?

2023-2024
Total number of freshmen 1,426
Total number taken Early Decision 945

This is really odd and I am not sure if this is the correct figures???

The 945 number includes Oxford.

[Anonymous]

No, that number is taken from the Common Data Set and Emory. The 945 is ONLY for Emory (ECAS) not Emory Oxford.

https://provost.emory.edu/planning-administration/_includes/documents/sections/institutional-data/Emory-Common-Data-Set-2023-2024.pdf

For the Fall 2023 entering class:
Number of early decision applications received by your institution: 3,924
Number of applicants admitted under early decision plan: 975

Also, that number is in accord with the following direct from Emory:

Emory admitted 705 to ECAS (Emory College of Arts and Sciences) for EDI

Emory admitted 267 to ECASfor EDII


https://www.emorywheel.com/article/2023/12/emory-admits-early-decision-i-applicants-into-class-of-2028
https://www.emorywheel.com/article/2024/02/emory-oxford-admit-345-early-decision-ii-students-to-class-of-2028#:~:text=In%20total%2C%202%2C147%20prospective%20students,from%202%2C088%20applicants%20last%20year.

[Anonymous]

Congrats to all admitted and ignore the comments about no football, no school spirit, no fun, pre-med factory, etc. Emory/Atlanta offer a ton of social and cultural opportunities. My kid has enjoyed many parties and performances organized by different campus groups.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]Oxford has a negative reputation on this forum but if it was that bad, kids wouldn’t be checking the Oxford box for ED1 or ED2. Lots of other options if they want a small exurban/suburban liberal arts campus. [/quote]

It has a negative reputation on this forum only in the mind of Emory mom who does all kind of mental gymnastics to lower the ED1 acceptance rate. The fact of the matter is Emory itself includes Oxford students in its acceptance rate, and those kids are identical in all respects to those who start in Atlanta. There is no real life basis for drawing a distinction between Oxford and Atlanta.