Is silver spring a decent place to live?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people keep bringing up an unsolved murder from SS that happened TWO YEARS AGO? Or, more likely, it's just one person on this board who is fixated on it. I live within a five-minute walk of that garage, and it's practically full all the time, so evidently most people have gotten over it. Probably hundreds of thousands of people have used that garage safely since then.

There are tons of unsolved murders everywhere in this region, including this one:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/02/20/four-years-after-unsolved-ballston-murder-no-new-details-from-police/


I have lived in Arlington and I have lived in Silver Spring. To not acknowledge that Downtown Silver Spring has not dramatically slid downhill over the past 10-15 years while places like Ballston Quarter and Crystal City have evolved into much nicer places than they were 10-15 years ago is just delusional. No objective person would say otherwise. Electing politicians who create a business and regulatory climate like there is in MoCo has consequences. And places like Downtown Silver Spring are emblematic of these choices.

Don’t believe me? Walk around the “mall” in Downtown Silver Spring and then go walk around Ballston Quarter. Ballston Quarter feels like Dubai by comparison. The mall in Downtown Silver Spring is a depressing crap hole.


Newsflash: nobody shops at the mall in Downtown Silver Spring. There are some good restaurants in the streets around the mall, but nobody ever goes inside unless they're desperate for super-cheap shoes. Plus, most Silver Spring housing is somewhat distant from the mall. So your comparison isn't relevant.


So no one goes there is a defense of it being okay? “The only indoor mall in Downtown Silver Spring is a depressing crap hole but it’s okay because no one goes there.” Okay…

Ballston used to be a depressing wasteland but Ballston Quarter is now much nicer than any mall in MD besides Montgomery Mall. Same with Springfield Mall. The reason is that VA is growing every year while MD is slowly decaying and its boosters are pretending it’s still 2010.


I hope people visit Ballston Quarter if that's really what Nova people think constitutes some sort of marvel of urban planning. While you get a sense for how horribly designed it all is, you can also take note all of the empty storefronts.

Also, why no mention of Pentagon City? Yikes. Most people I know who live in Nova refuse to step foot in that mall. People are so obsessed about a parking garage murder in Silver Spring that I guess they forget about this one: https://www.arlnow.com/2019/07/02/just-in-man-shot-in-pentagon-city-mall-parking-garage-has-died/


The irony of Pentagon City is that the reason that the mall is a no-go zone is 100% literally because of people who live in Maryland. The mall is dumpy and ghetto because people from PG, who don't have nice retail options due to a lack of private investment in their jurisdiction, drive over the Woodrow Wilson Bridge to go shopping at Pentagon City. If you track most of the robberies, shootings, and other crimes in Pentagon City where a suspect has been named, it is almost always a Maryland Resident.

Face it, MoCo and PG have gotten worse and worse. I've been here for 30 years and it is as plain as day. You people will continue to be in denial and be wrong like with every other issue on this forum (Kamala is winning, right?). It seems as though people here enjoy being wrong.


Such dishonesty: the Pentagon City criminals are from DC and Virginia. For example:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/10/04/acpd-officer-suffers-knife-wound-after-struggle-with-theft-suspect-in-pentagon-city/ (DC resident)

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/08/27/acpd-two-officers-injured-by-theft-suspect-in-pentagon-city/ (DC resident)

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/10/30/man-charged-with-brandishing-bb-gun-in-pentagon-city/ (Arlington resident)

https://patch.com/virginia/arlington-va/dc-man-arrested-following-scuffle-pentagon-metro-station-police (DC resident)

Sorry your mall is so awful and has become a haven for criminals.



Ok, I should have said DC as well. It was an error on my part omitting that. However, you cherry picked 4 examples specifically avoiding Maryland suspects, and three of them are from DC. There are many many examples of PG county idiots committing crimes around Pentagon City. DC and PG county people are 100% the overwhelming majority of criminals there, not VA residents.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/he-wasnt-thinking-mother-mourns-son-killed-in-alexandria-carjacking-attempt/3055262/

This is my favorite example. Guy from PG got clipped for doing PG county activities.

We're not going to convince each other. The difference is that you are living in lala land where MD isn't a shithole outside of Bethesda, and I am living in reality where it is.
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Anonymous wrote:10 people are murdered daily in silver springs. Rockvilles has 15 murdered a day. Buy in Virginia.


Where did these numbers come from? Guesses?
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Anonymous wrote:10 people are murdered daily in silver springs. Rockvilles has 15 murdered a day. Buy in Virginia.


It’s Silver Spring

NOT Silver Springs
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Anonymous wrote:Why do people keep bringing up an unsolved murder from SS that happened TWO YEARS AGO? Or, more likely, it's just one person on this board who is fixated on it. I live within a five-minute walk of that garage, and it's practically full all the time, so evidently most people have gotten over it. Probably hundreds of thousands of people have used that garage safely since then.

There are tons of unsolved murders everywhere in this region, including this one:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/02/20/four-years-after-unsolved-ballston-murder-no-new-details-from-police/


I have lived in Arlington and I have lived in Silver Spring. To not acknowledge that Downtown Silver Spring has not dramatically slid downhill over the past 10-15 years while places like Ballston Quarter and Crystal City have evolved into much nicer places than they were 10-15 years ago is just delusional. No objective person would say otherwise. Electing politicians who create a business and regulatory climate like there is in MoCo has consequences. And places like Downtown Silver Spring are emblematic of these choices.

Don’t believe me? Walk around the “mall” in Downtown Silver Spring and then go walk around Ballston Quarter. Ballston Quarter feels like Dubai by comparison. The mall in Downtown Silver Spring is a depressing crap hole.


Newsflash: nobody shops at the mall in Downtown Silver Spring. There are some good restaurants in the streets around the mall, but nobody ever goes inside unless they're desperate for super-cheap shoes. Plus, most Silver Spring housing is somewhat distant from the mall. So your comparison isn't relevant.


So no one goes there is a defense of it being okay? “The only indoor mall in Downtown Silver Spring is a depressing crap hole but it’s okay because no one goes there.” Okay…

Ballston used to be a depressing wasteland but Ballston Quarter is now much nicer than any mall in MD besides Montgomery Mall. Same with Springfield Mall. The reason is that VA is growing every year while MD is slowly decaying and its boosters are pretending it’s still 2010.


I hope people visit Ballston Quarter if that's really what Nova people think constitutes some sort of marvel of urban planning. While you get a sense for how horribly designed it all is, you can also take note all of the empty storefronts.

Also, why no mention of Pentagon City? Yikes. Most people I know who live in Nova refuse to step foot in that mall. People are so obsessed about a parking garage murder in Silver Spring that I guess they forget about this one: https://www.arlnow.com/2019/07/02/just-in-man-shot-in-pentagon-city-mall-parking-garage-has-died/


The irony of Pentagon City is that the reason that the mall is a no-go zone is 100% literally because of people who live in Maryland. The mall is dumpy and ghetto because people from PG, who don't have nice retail options due to a lack of private investment in their jurisdiction, drive over the Woodrow Wilson Bridge to go shopping at Pentagon City. If you track most of the robberies, shootings, and other crimes in Pentagon City where a suspect has been named, it is almost always a Maryland Resident.

Face it, MoCo and PG have gotten worse and worse. I've been here for 30 years and it is as plain as day. You people will continue to be in denial and be wrong like with every other issue on this forum (Kamala is winning, right?). It seems as though people here enjoy being wrong.


Such dishonesty: the Pentagon City criminals are from DC and Virginia. For example:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/10/04/acpd-officer-suffers-knife-wound-after-struggle-with-theft-suspect-in-pentagon-city/ (DC resident)

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/08/27/acpd-two-officers-injured-by-theft-suspect-in-pentagon-city/ (DC resident)

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/10/30/man-charged-with-brandishing-bb-gun-in-pentagon-city/ (Arlington resident)

https://patch.com/virginia/arlington-va/dc-man-arrested-following-scuffle-pentagon-metro-station-police (DC resident)

Sorry your mall is so awful and has become a haven for criminals.



Ok, I should have said DC as well. It was an error on my part omitting that. However, you cherry picked 4 examples specifically avoiding Maryland suspects, and three of them are from DC. There are many many examples of PG county idiots committing crimes around Pentagon City. DC and PG county people are 100% the overwhelming majority of criminals there, not VA residents.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/he-wasnt-thinking-mother-mourns-son-killed-in-alexandria-carjacking-attempt/3055262/

This is my favorite example. Guy from PG got clipped for doing PG county activities.

We're not going to convince each other. The difference is that you are living in lala land where MD isn't a shithole outside of Bethesda, and I am living in reality where it is.


At the end of the day the only objective stat is the market, and NoVA has appreciated by a lot more than MoCo over the past 20 years. South Arlington used to be as much, or cheaper, than Takoma Park and Silver Spring in the early aughts. Now it is a lot more expensive. This house is in a crappy school district and is $200,000-$300,000 more than a similar home would be near Takoma Park or DTSS. It doubled in value since 2007 as well.

https://www.redfin.com/VA/Arlington/401-S-Barton-St-22204/home/11262582
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Anonymous wrote:10 people are murdered daily in silver springs. Rockvilles has 15 murdered a day. Buy in Virginia.


Is this true?


No, it's not true.

[/b]County of a million people and there were 28 homicides last year for all of Montgomery County MD, including Rockville and Silver Spring.

I'm from a southern city where someone gets murdered almost every night, so Silver Spring has been great[b].


This is not a flex for a suburb that you think it is.


It's not a "flex" it's actual data. Fairfax is not that different in homicide numbers.


But less taxes and same services, etc.


Well, Fairfax is uglier and its schools aren't as good. And if taxes are your obsession, don't forget that Fairfax has toll roads everywhere, the car tax, taxes on groceries, and higher restaurant taxes.


Stop. Fairfax also has far more, and nicer, retail options. There are homeless people roaming around and panhandling all over Rockville Pike in “North Bethesda,” and Rockville Pike is literally the only reasonably nice retail corridor in all of Montgomery County outside of Montgomery Mall. Fairfax has Tysons, Mosaic, Fair Oaks, Reston Town Center, and a bunch of stores on Route 50 and Route 7 in Chantilly and Sterling. There are also a lot more jobs in Fairfax, unlike MoCo where most people either work for the Feds, which aim to cut their workforce by 50% or more in the new administration, or work in the county’s paltry Biotech corridor, which pales in comparison to the IT jobs near 267 in Fairfax.

People that have been here for 20+ years have watched MoCo deteriorate while VA has been awash with private investment and infrastructure projects.


About 20% of residents of Moco, Fairfax, and Arlington work for the federal government, so while you may want to believe that there are more private sector jobs in Nova, it's simply not true. The data also shows that Nova is losing jobs since last year, so Nova is on the decline. And you're being dishonest in suggesting that there aren't homeless people in Nova.

Lots of companies choose to set up shop in MoCo; it's just that you choose not to notice. For example, a shiny new building in Bethesda is home to Proshares and Fox5 DC, and more commercial space keeps getting built (even in this supposedly slow market). Unlike Nova, Moco hasn't bet its fortunes on declining companies like Amazon and Boeing.

The fact is that MCPS is still the preeminent school system in this region, and Bethesda/Chevy Chase/Potomac are highly sought-after suburbs, just as they've always been.

Your obsession with malls is bizarre, but if people really need their retail fix, downtown Bethesda, Pike & Rose, Rockville Town Center, the Rio, Montgomery Mall, and downtown Silver Spring are all great retail areas. While you and others insist on spreading falsehoods about DTSS, it's incredibly safe and is full of people from morning until night because it has a wealth of dining and entertainment options.


There are a lot of contractor jobs so people may not work directly for the feds but they do indirectly. There are far more tech jobs in VA and the commute sucks.
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There are a lot of nice parts of silver spring though, such as Woodside, forest glen, Woodside Park, and Seven Oaks evanswood. Real estate prices push one million in several of these communities. It's true that DTSS has gone downhill, but these discussions leave out that swaths of Silver Spring are still typical upper middle class suburbia.
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Anonymous wrote:As a 32-year resident of Silver Spring 20902, I find all this very entertaining. The only thing you may need to worry about is navigating your way through the thousands of families walking their dog every day.


Same thoughts here from 20902. Silver spring is huge and DTSS will have some crime, but overall there are plenty of nice, safe, family friendly neighborhoods across multiple price points if you’re willing to live somewhere with a little diversity.
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Used to love in SS but school issues, crime and high taxes made us move to NovA. I don't want to pay high taxes and schools going worse.
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Silver Spring is a great area!
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Anonymous wrote:Used to love in SS but school issues, crime and high taxes made us move to NovA. I don't want to pay high taxes and schools going worse.


Good luck with that -- your taxes will be going up:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/11/27/arlington-county-forecasting-30-40-million-budget-gap/
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Anonymous wrote:Used to love in SS but school issues, crime and high taxes made us move to NovA. I don't want to pay high taxes and schools going worse.


Good luck with that -- your taxes will be going up:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/11/27/arlington-county-forecasting-30-40-million-budget-gap/


You do understand it will never be close to MD counties. MD state tax is pretty close to VA state tax so why pay 3-3.5% county income tax on top of high property taxes? Not sure what they do with all these taxes? Probably funding some welfare programs.
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These NoVa boosters sound a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Why would I live in Arlington if my job is located in Bethesda?
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Clarendon is crazy:

https://x.com/statter911/status/1862738625232085323?s=46&t=PyhgdUMYHjgfAse98_Ue_A

If this sort of stuff happened in downtown Bethesda, there would be five threads about it every week.
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