Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC

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Anonymous wrote:I think we will very soon learn that the only thing needed for education is a good teacher, chalk and a black board. Our education system isn't failing because it's not well funded enough. It's failing because these kids have way too many corporate backed distractions.

No, it's failing because 50% of a class has an ADHD or autism diagnosis with accommodations that require many resources and the other 50% are ESOL kids with parents at home who don't care if their kids learn English as long as they are in school and not needing daycare for 8 hours a day.

If I still had kids at home, there's no way I'd allow them in public school. The minority of kids, those kids without accommodations, are severely disadvantaged and cannot fairly compete with the kids with accommodations, like extra test time.

Exactly. They should be graded separately because they have accommodations. The existence of a 540 or IEP is an acknowledgement that they are not the same as other students, and there's been no study to decide how much extra time or which tool is considered "fair."

I feel like they are going to leave special Ed alone. The IEP moms would lose their minds.

They won’t. Special needs families in Florida are doing well with their scholarships to go private, to cover in-home therapies/tutors/caregiving, and a streamlined application process that doesn’t involve the DOE. The law there also requires all schools to allow outside providers. Truly a godsend and should be the national model for special education.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a former Virginian and live in Lenexa, KS - a “red” state. Trust me, we’ll do just fine if we eliminated all payments to DC to get back back funding, but with certain strings attached.

This really shouldn’t even be a political thing. My great grandmother was educated in a log cabin with a slate and chalk tablet and sharing books. She read and studied insatiably and was very well educated.

Oh yeah, Kansas is totally pro at this:

"Hard times for Kansas and its schools as economic ‘experiment’ creates gaping budget hole"

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-kansas-hard-times-snap-20161121-story.html

It'll be interesting to see if all the Trump voters double down on Trump as their states start flailing.

Yes-and Lenexa, Ks is a bubble within Kansas. It is in a well-to-do county and has a well-funded school district. It's not like many other locations in the state.

Maybe Lenexa can finally start sharing their school funds with the rest of KS. Now that the fed gov is out, the money has to come from somewhere

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a former Virginian and live in Lenexa, KS - a “red” state. Trust me, we’ll do just fine if we eliminated all payments to DC to get back back funding, but with certain strings attached.

This really shouldn’t even be a political thing. My great grandmother was educated in a log cabin with a slate and chalk tablet and sharing books. She read and studied insatiably and was very well educated.

SO the red states that take more can stop that. You only get Federal tax dollars for your state that come from your own state residents. Let's try that for a decade and see how most red states are doing (Hint: most of the money comes disproportionately from the Blue states--but let's allow them to keep their own money, that's what you seem to want)

That's stupid and anti-American. So the feds should tell the border patrol to leave the west coast and allow bordering states to build a wall to prevent illegals from entering their states? California can use all that kept money to pay for social services and education. Let's try that for a decade and see how many rich people are left in California and what tech companies are left in Seattle.

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Awesome

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

It’s so bad.

That’s why all the dcum moms fight like heck to send their kids to private schools.

There’s entire forums here dedicated to getting their kids into private schools because public schools are so poorly run, dangerous, etc, and the quality of education so abysmal.

Total hypocrites.

Send your children to public school, run by the DOE. You won’t! You’d rather die.

For the millionth effing time: the Federal DOE does not set curriculums for local schools. If your schools suck it's because of the state or local board, combined with - I'll say it - bad parenting that doesn't value education.

Department of Education should have been eliminated long ago. The only reason it exists is to use federal grants to coerce local school districts into conforming to a leftist political agenda, and to serve as a centralized authority to push leftism nationwide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

But the audience of DCUM is the bureaucrats running dept of ed being overpaid and working from home while our nations non-wealthy public school students suffer.

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Anonymous wrote:Why? I looked up and DC is ranked #16 in education in the country. That’s not a bad rank.

The top 10 best educated states are all blue states. It won’t change them. The poor states like Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, etc will be negatively affected.

https://scholaroo.com/report/state-education-rankings/

New York is ranked 6th.
California is ranked 40th.

Top 14 out of 15 are blue and the 15th is purple state.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You all act like we didn’t have schools prior to the department of Ed’s creation in 1970s. Since its implementation, billions spent and objectively worse educational outcomes across the board.

+1

But the audience of DCUM is the bureaucrats running dept of ed being overpaid and working from home while our nations non-wealthy public school students suffer.

Curious how closing the Dept of Ed helps non wealthy schools

[Anonymous]

Don’t you love being lectured about voters being stupid and selfish, by people who vote year after year to support and keep their federal government jobs? Like they are altruistic and kind souls? Nope, you just like your job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why? I looked up and DC is ranked #16 in education in the country. That’s not a bad rank.

The top 10 best educated states are all blue states. It won’t change them. The poor states like Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, etc will be negatively affected.

https://scholaroo.com/report/state-education-rankings/

New York is ranked 6th.
California is ranked 40th.

Top 14 out of 15 are blue and the 15th is purple state.

This is because the higher rated states have some combination of old money, Jewish, and Asian households. If those people all moved to the south, those states would skyrocket in ranking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why? I looked up and DC is ranked #16 in education in the country. That’s not a bad rank.

The top 10 best educated states are all blue states. It won’t change them. The poor states like Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, etc will be negatively affected.

https://scholaroo.com/report/state-education-rankings/

New York is ranked 6th.
California is ranked 40th.

Top 14 out of 15 are blue and the 15th is purple state.

This is because the higher rated states have some combination of old money, Jewish, and Asian households. If those people all moved to the south, those states would skyrocket in ranking.

+1 it’s all tied to wealthy vs poor even within your local school districts.

[Anonymous]

I'd be happy to see that go....except that it actually does more than just come up with bad ideas for how to improve education. It also runs some scholarship programs and maybe Title IX, or I? Not sure, but I know there is a bunch of stuff we don't want to do without, and most likely all that stuff will go away and what will stay is that they will continue to implement policies that make education worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why? I looked up and DC is ranked #16 in education in the country. That’s not a bad rank.

The top 10 best educated states are all blue states. It won’t change them. The poor states like Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, etc will be negatively affected.

https://scholaroo.com/report/state-education-rankings/

New York is ranked 6th.
California is ranked 40th.

Top 14 out of 15 are blue and the 15th is purple state.

This is because the higher rated states have some combination of old money, Jewish, and Asian households. If those people all moved to the south, those states would skyrocket in ranking.

And then those states would be blue? You seem like the product of a red state school