FBI Headquarter Plans in Limbo?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all.politics...doesnt it make sense to use an existing building centrally located near transit where existing staff's commutes are not radically changed?

I thought the FBI wanted a campus like the CIA has and that’s why GSA was considering sites like Springfield and Greenbelt

They did and that was one of the factors in the site selection process. Now they’ll apparently stay at a central site in DC but without the large, secure campus.

It was always about politics, not security or functionality. Maryland was picked for racial reasons, D.C. has now been picked simply to defeat the racial motivation involved in the selection of PG County. Secure operations are an afterthought in all this, unfortunately.

Yes the future FBI HQ is also the Reagan International Trade Center and Children's Museum. There is a large public passage through the site to the Metro and Constitution Ave. The public will be walking through the site at all hours of the day and night.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL this is over. It's staying in DC.

New FBI HQ. Check.

New world class football/concert stadium and mixed-use development. Check.

Continued large scale development in Georgetown, the Wharf, SW DC, McMillian Reservoir, and Walter Reed. Check++++.

Metro ridership back above 1,000,000 riders per day. Check.

DC crime now below pre-pandemic levels. Check.

This is why we didn't flee for the suburbs during COVID. Everything is bouncing back even bigger than before.

That must be why 50%+ of the commercial space is still not leased.

Restaurants and retail are closing by the day. That poster needs to relax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL this is over. It's staying in DC.

New FBI HQ. Check.

New world class football/concert stadium and mixed-use development. Check.

Continued large scale development in Georgetown, the Wharf, SW DC, McMillian Reservoir, and Walter Reed. Check++++.

Metro ridership back above 1,000,000 riders per day. Check.

DC crime now below pre-pandemic levels. Check.

This is why we didn't flee for the suburbs during COVID. Everything is bouncing back even bigger than before.

That must be why 50%+ of the commercial space is still not leased.

Restaurants and retail are closing by the day. That poster needs to relax.

DP. City Center DC (downtown shopping) and Georgetown are hopping, so no problem there. Union Market is also doing fine, but future development projects are on indefinite hold. Lots of restaurants are closing by the day, but new ones are also popping up. DC still has among the country's highest office vacancy rates. But people are commuting downtown for work, and Metro subway is even packed on Momdays with ridership way up. So it's a mixed picture, but not nearly as dire as many people think it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all.politics...doesnt it make sense to use an existing building centrally located near transit where existing staff's commutes are not radically changed?

I thought the FBI wanted a campus like the CIA has and that’s why GSA was considering sites like Springfield and Greenbelt

They did and that was one of the factors in the site selection process. Now they’ll apparently stay at a central site in DC but without the large, secure campus.

It was always about politics, not security or functionality. Maryland was picked for racial reasons, D.C. has now been picked simply to defeat the racial motivation involved in the selection of PG County. Secure operations are an afterthought in all this, unfortunately.

I thought it was more about punishing Virginia for failing to elect a Democrat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all.politics...doesnt it make sense to use an existing building centrally located near transit where existing staff's commutes are not radically changed?

I thought the FBI wanted a campus like the CIA has and that’s why GSA was considering sites like Springfield and Greenbelt

They did and that was one of the factors in the site selection process. Now they’ll apparently stay at a central site in DC but without the large, secure campus.

It was always about politics, not security or functionality. Maryland was picked for racial reasons, D.C. has now been picked simply to defeat the racial motivation involved in the selection of PG County. Secure operations are an afterthought in all this, unfortunately.

I thought it was more about punishing Virginia for failing to elect a Democrat.

No, it was meant to provide employment for clerical staff would be hired from PG County, construction money for small businesses in PG County, and a source of revenue from employees assigned post-construction to work in PG County. The inability of the County to attract employers through attractive tax, regulatory, and other policies, a skilled workforce, good schools, and other incentives made a forced relocation of the Bureau attractive to those able to influence the site selection. It was about what would be nice for PG County, not about what would be best for the Bureau and its mission.

It's obvious that the factors which make PG unattractive to commercial business make it equally unattractive to relocating government employees who might have to work there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all.politics...doesnt it make sense to use an existing building centrally located near transit where existing staff's commutes are not radically changed?

I thought the FBI wanted a campus like the CIA has and that’s why GSA was considering sites like Springfield and Greenbelt

They did and that was one of the factors in the site selection process. Now they’ll apparently stay at a central site in DC but without the large, secure campus.

It was always about politics, not security or functionality. Maryland was picked for racial reasons, D.C. has now been picked simply to defeat the racial motivation involved in the selection of PG County. Secure operations are an afterthought in all this, unfortunately.

I thought it was more about punishing Virginia for failing to elect a Democrat.

No, it was meant to provide employment for clerical staff would be hired from PG County, construction money for small businesses in PG County, and a source of revenue from employees assigned post-construction to work in PG County. The inability of the County to attract employers through attractive tax, regulatory, and other policies, a skilled workforce, good schools, and other incentives made a forced relocation of the Bureau attractive to those able to influence the site selection. It was about what would be nice for PG County, not about what would be best for the Bureau and its mission.

It's obvious that the factors which make PG unattractive to commercial business make it equally unattractive to relocating government employees who might have to work there.

Surely these selections are about the best possible site, and not a jobs program for favored constituents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all.politics...doesnt it make sense to use an existing building centrally located near transit where existing staff's commutes are not radically changed?

I thought the FBI wanted a campus like the CIA has and that’s why GSA was considering sites like Springfield and Greenbelt

They did and that was one of the factors in the site selection process. Now they’ll apparently stay at a central site in DC but without the large, secure campus.

It was always about politics, not security or functionality. Maryland was picked for racial reasons, D.C. has now been picked simply to defeat the racial motivation involved in the selection of PG County. Secure operations are an afterthought in all this, unfortunately.

I thought it was more about punishing Virginia for failing to elect a Democrat.

No, it was meant to provide employment for clerical staff would be hired from PG County, construction money for small businesses in PG County, and a source of revenue from employees assigned post-construction to work in PG County. The inability of the County to attract employers through attractive tax, regulatory, and other policies, a skilled workforce, good schools, and other incentives made a forced relocation of the Bureau attractive to those able to influence the site selection. It was about what would be nice for PG County, not about what would be best for the Bureau and its mission.

It's obvious that the factors which make PG unattractive to commercial business make it equally unattractive to relocating government employees who might have to work there.

Surely these selections are about the best possible site, and not a jobs program for favored constituents.

If only that had been true. Springfield was selected on that basis, PG was mandated for DEI reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all.politics...doesnt it make sense to use an existing building centrally located near transit where existing staff's commutes are not radically changed?

I thought the FBI wanted a campus like the CIA has and that’s why GSA was considering sites like Springfield and Greenbelt

They did and that was one of the factors in the site selection process. Now they’ll apparently stay at a central site in DC but without the large, secure campus.

It was always about politics, not security or functionality. Maryland was picked for racial reasons, D.C. has now been picked simply to defeat the racial motivation involved in the selection of PG County. Secure operations are an afterthought in all this, unfortunately.

Yes the future FBI HQ is also the Reagan International Trade Center and Children's Museum. There is a large public passage through the site to the Metro and Constitution Ave. The public will be walking through the site at all hours of the day and night.

The Russians will find this convenient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all.politics...doesnt it make sense to use an existing building centrally located near transit where existing staff's commutes are not radically changed?

I thought the FBI wanted a campus like the CIA has and that’s why GSA was considering sites like Springfield and Greenbelt

They did and that was one of the factors in the site selection process. Now they’ll apparently stay at a central site in DC but without the large, secure campus.

It was always about politics, not security or functionality. Maryland was picked for racial reasons, D.C. has now been picked simply to defeat the racial motivation involved in the selection of PG County. Secure operations are an afterthought in all this, unfortunately.

I thought it was more about punishing Virginia for failing to elect a Democrat.

No, it was meant to provide employment for clerical staff would be hired from PG County, construction money for small businesses in PG County, and a source of revenue from employees assigned post-construction to work in PG County. The inability of the County to attract employers through attractive tax, regulatory, and other policies, a skilled workforce, good schools, and other incentives made a forced relocation of the Bureau attractive to those able to influence the site selection. It was about what would be nice for PG County, not about what would be best for the Bureau and its mission.

It's obvious that the factors which make PG unattractive to commercial business make it equally unattractive to relocating government employees who might have to work there.

Surely these selections are about the best possible site, and not a jobs program for favored constituents.

If only that had been true. Springfield was selected on that basis, PG was mandated for DEI reasons.

I never understood the Greenbelt site selection. But it was Wes Moore's only accomplishment in office. Is he still suing Trump for cancelling that project?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all.politics...doesnt it make sense to use an existing building centrally located near transit where existing staff's commutes are not radically changed?

I thought the FBI wanted a campus like the CIA has and that’s why GSA was considering sites like Springfield and Greenbelt

They did and that was one of the factors in the site selection process. Now they’ll apparently stay at a central site in DC but without the large, secure campus.

It was always about politics, not security or functionality. Maryland was picked for racial reasons, D.C. has now been picked simply to defeat the racial motivation involved in the selection of PG County. Secure operations are an afterthought in all this, unfortunately.

I thought it was more about punishing Virginia for failing to elect a Democrat.

No, it was meant to provide employment for clerical staff would be hired from PG County, construction money for small businesses in PG County, and a source of revenue from employees assigned post-construction to work in PG County. The inability of the County to attract employers through attractive tax, regulatory, and other policies, a skilled workforce, good schools, and other incentives made a forced relocation of the Bureau attractive to those able to influence the site selection. It was about what would be nice for PG County, not about what would be best for the Bureau and its mission.

It's obvious that the factors which make PG unattractive to commercial business make it equally unattractive to relocating government employees who might have to work there.

Surely these selections are about the best possible site, and not a jobs program for favored constituents.

If only that had been true. Springfield was selected on that basis, PG was mandated for DEI reasons.

I never understood the Greenbelt site selection. But it was Wes Moore's only accomplishment in office. Is he still suing Trump for cancelling that project?

Greenbelt was not the choice of the selection team, but was picked to provide minority employment and federal government spending in a primarily minority County. That County apparently cannot compete successfully for commercial business which operates on free market principles, so the government put its thumb on the scale to compel construction where relevant business considerations were pushed aside in favor of racial favoritism.

[Anonymous]

According to WTOP this morning, the Children's Museum will be forced to relocate. The entire site of what used to be the Woodrow Wilson Presidential Memorial Learning Center and Ronald Reagan International Trade Center will need to become fully secured. People forget that a good portion of the future FBI HQ was the Congressionally Chartered Wilson Center, the country's living memorial to Wilson and a preeminent center for scholarship until DOGE swooped in determined it was wasteful and fired everyone.

Sadly we'll lose another beautiful public space and plaza to security. I do believe the Federal Triangle Metro station itself will remain open. there's a station at the Pentagon after all. But all that beautiful architecture and the outdoor public spaces will soon be off limits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all.politics...doesnt it make sense to use an existing building centrally located near transit where existing staff's commutes are not radically changed?

I thought the FBI wanted a campus like the CIA has and that’s why GSA was considering sites like Springfield and Greenbelt

They did and that was one of the factors in the site selection process. Now they’ll apparently stay at a central site in DC but without the large, secure campus.

It was always about politics, not security or functionality. Maryland was picked for racial reasons, D.C. has now been picked simply to defeat the racial motivation involved in the selection of PG County. Secure operations are an afterthought in all this, unfortunately.

Yes the future FBI HQ is also the Reagan International Trade Center and Children's Museum. There is a large public passage through the site to the Metro and Constitution Ave. The public will be walking through the site at all hours of the day and night.

The Russians will find this convenient.

IDK, I think they prefer the bathroom storage and the stage storage of top secret documents at Mara Lago. The weather is so much nicer there in the winter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all.politics...doesnt it make sense to use an existing building centrally located near transit where existing staff's commutes are not radically changed?

I thought the FBI wanted a campus like the CIA has and that’s why GSA was considering sites like Springfield and Greenbelt

They did and that was one of the factors in the site selection process. Now they’ll apparently stay at a central site in DC but without the large, secure campus.

It was always about politics, not security or functionality. Maryland was picked for racial reasons, D.C. has now been picked simply to defeat the racial motivation involved in the selection of PG County. Secure operations are an afterthought in all this, unfortunately.

Let me guess your race..

I thought it was more about punishing Virginia for failing to elect a Democrat.

No, it was meant to provide employment for clerical staff would be hired from PG County, construction money for small businesses in PG County, and a source of revenue from employees assigned post-construction to work in PG County. The inability of the County to attract employers through attractive tax, regulatory, and other policies, a skilled workforce, good schools, and other incentives made a forced relocation of the Bureau attractive to those able to influence the site selection. It was about what would be nice for PG County, not about what would be best for the Bureau and its mission.

It's obvious that the factors which make PG unattractive to commercial business make it equally unattractive to relocating government employees who might have to work there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to WTOP this morning, the Children's Museum will be forced to relocate. The entire site of what used to be the Woodrow Wilson Presidential Memorial Learning Center and Ronald Reagan International Trade Center will need to become fully secured. People forget that a good portion of the future FBI HQ was the Congressionally Chartered Wilson Center, the country's living memorial to Wilson and a preeminent center for scholarship until DOGE swooped in determined it was wasteful and fired everyone.

Sadly we'll lose another beautiful public space and plaza to security. I do believe the Federal Triangle Metro station itself will remain open. there's a station at the Pentagon after all. But all that beautiful architecture and the outdoor public spaces will soon be off limits.

This is a decade away. FBI will never actually be in that building. It does not meet the basic security requirements. At some point a new director with a brain will show up.