Hairy legs in an office setting

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She should shave her legs. You told her and she is free to ignore. Either the office is more open-minded than you think or she'll learn a lesson the hard way.

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If she chooses not to listen and learn through the school of hard knocks, that's fine. Not the end of the world. I hope you say 'I told you so' afterwards.[/quote]

Absolutely not. So glad you're not my parent.
There will be no need. Either she will have learned an unfortunate lesson, or it won't be an issue at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She should shave her legs or wear pants. I wish I could say it won't matter but it will.

Her generation is a lot more progressive about this but her bosses will be millennials and up and all of us shave our legs.

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GenX doesn’t care. We have teens of our own. We get it.

I’m guessing it’s mostly millennials having a fit, feeling threatened and usurped by the youth. And boomers who still wear pantyhose.

I can't speak for everyone, but I'm a millennial and solidly team DD.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These women will be pulled aside by a supervisor and told to shave their legs as that is the standard in a professional office setting.

It is an uncomfortable conversation for a supervisor to have.

If your daughter is doing farm work in the summer or lawn care in the summer she can probably get by with unshaved legs but it is not the standard in the US.

You are clueless about the workplace in 2024. You cannot say anything about a person's body at all or you will get reprimanded, reassigned, demoted. Do it twice and you will be out of a job. Weighing 500 lbs is worse than leg hair, and you know very well that you cannot comment that obesity is unprofessional, so how is a leg hair comment going to fly???

You can gossip about Hairy Legs Larleigh and Wanda the Beached Whale at happy hour. At work you keep your lips zipped.

Agreed. The pp's saying this are delusional, or an HR incident waiting to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men have hairy legs and always wear pants.

Then how do you know they have hairy legs and don't shave?
Seriously, I see males delivering mail and packages in shorts. Male professional athletes in shorts all the time.
Besides, OP's daughter is going to an internship in a "business casual" setting - nobody's wearing shorts regardless of their sex.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These women will be pulled aside by a supervisor and told to shave their legs as that is the standard in a professional office setting.

It is an uncomfortable conversation for a supervisor to have.

If your daughter is doing farm work in the summer or lawn care in the summer she can probably get by with unshaved legs but it is not the standard in the US.

This is incorrect. Men need to stop telling women that shaving is the "standard".

I doubt anyone would go as far as to tell her to shave, especially a "man" in a supervisory position. But the PP is correct that is still the standard. Currently sitting in my DC office where no woman has visible hair on her legs. We have a ton of recent college grads here too.

I'm blonde, you'd have to get inches away from my legs to see hair. Are you doing this with all your co-workers? I highly doubt it. There are likely women who aren't shaving/waxing regularly in your office, you are just too busy doing your job (as you should be!) to notice how long their leg hair is.

Being purposefully obtuse I see. I imagine if you were blessed with long dark hair on your legs like I was you'd either wear pants or shave. I imagine if I had hair barely visible like you, I'd go around being proud for bucking the trend

Keep trying to mansplain womens leg hair to us! Either way, you aren't getting close enough to womens legs to notice if they are shaved or not. So why not just.. not worry about it? It isn't affecting their job performance. You just like to feel in control of other women, which is bizarrely insecure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men have hairy legs and always wear pants.

Men also don’t wear makeup or heels or get blowouts to “look successful,” so if we’re going to make everything even, let’s cut that sh*t out, too. If this really an issue for some offices, they need to write “long pants only” into the policy.

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"Clean shaven" targets men. But it means either no facial hair or well-groomed facial hair. Doesn't refer to legs or pits or chests.
Time for gender-neutral dress code language.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. My DD would know the assignment in this situation. Our golden rule is that in a professional setting - dress, groom and behave appropriately.

You want to fit in with your co-workers, instill confidence in your bosses that you have good judgement and reassure your clients that you know your stuff - and dressing for the role is a part of it.

My kids have interned in HS, college and post-college. They usually get a return offer or solid recommendations. The reason is their work, attitude and how they present themselves.

Please understand that "babysitting" the interns is a hated job. Interns usually increase the workload for some office worker, so they are slightly resentful about it. Then comes a poorly dressed, poorly groomed, poor attitude person and the situation does not improve.

Where in the definition of "well-groomed" is "for females, clean-shaven legs and armpits?"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These women will be pulled aside by a supervisor and told to shave their legs as that is the standard in a professional office setting.

It is an uncomfortable conversation for a supervisor to have.

If your daughter is doing farm work in the summer or lawn care in the summer she can probably get by with unshaved legs but it is not the standard in the US.

This is incorrect. Men need to stop telling women that shaving is the "standard".

I doubt anyone would go as far as to tell her to shave, especially a "man" in a supervisory position. But the PP is correct that is still the standard. Currently sitting in my DC office where no woman has visible hair on her legs. We have a ton of recent college grads here too.

I'm blonde, you'd have to get inches away from my legs to see hair. Are you doing this with all your co-workers? I highly doubt it. There are likely women who aren't shaving/waxing regularly in your office, you are just too busy doing your job (as you should be!) to notice how long their leg hair is.

Being purposefully obtuse I see. I imagine if you were blessed with long dark hair on your legs like I was you'd either wear pants or shave. I imagine if I had hair barely visible like you, I'd go around being proud for bucking the trend

Keep trying to mansplain womens leg hair to us! Either way, you aren't getting close enough to womens legs to notice if they are shaved or not. So why not just.. not worry about it? It isn't affecting their job performance. You just like to feel in control of other women, which is bizarrely insecure.

I'm a woman, you idiot. I'm a 100% positive you're not as brave in real life as you are when being a keyboard warrior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These women will be pulled aside by a supervisor and told to shave their legs as that is the standard in a professional office setting.

It is an uncomfortable conversation for a supervisor to have.

If your daughter is doing farm work in the summer or lawn care in the summer she can probably get by with unshaved legs but it is not the standard in the US.

This is incorrect. Men need to stop telling women that shaving is the "standard".

I doubt anyone would go as far as to tell her to shave, especially a "man" in a supervisory position. But the PP is correct that is still the standard. Currently sitting in my DC office where no woman has visible hair on her legs. We have a ton of recent college grads here too.

I'm blonde, you'd have to get inches away from my legs to see hair. Are you doing this with all your co-workers? I highly doubt it. There are likely women who aren't shaving/waxing regularly in your office, you are just too busy doing your job (as you should be!) to notice how long their leg hair is.

Being purposefully obtuse I see. I imagine if you were blessed with long dark hair on your legs like I was you'd either wear pants or shave. I imagine if I had hair barely visible like you, I'd go around being proud for bucking the trend

Keep trying to mansplain womens leg hair to us! Either way, you aren't getting close enough to womens legs to notice if they are shaved or not. So why not just.. not worry about it? It isn't affecting their job performance. You just like to feel in control of other women, which is bizarrely insecure.

I'm a woman, you idiot. I'm a 100% positive you're not as brave in real life as you are when being a keyboard warrior.

I bet you are

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These women will be pulled aside by a supervisor and told to shave their legs as that is the standard in a professional office setting.

It is an uncomfortable conversation for a supervisor to have.

If your daughter is doing farm work in the summer or lawn care in the summer she can probably get by with unshaved legs but it is not the standard in the US.

This is incorrect. Men need to stop telling women that shaving is the "standard".

I doubt anyone would go as far as to tell her to shave, especially a "man" in a supervisory position. But the PP is correct that is still the standard. Currently sitting in my DC office where no woman has visible hair on her legs. We have a ton of recent college grads here too.

I'm blonde, you'd have to get inches away from my legs to see hair. Are you doing this with all your co-workers? I highly doubt it. There are likely women who aren't shaving/waxing regularly in your office, you are just too busy doing your job (as you should be!) to notice how long their leg hair is.

Being purposefully obtuse I see. I imagine if you were blessed with long dark hair on your legs like I was you'd either wear pants or shave. I imagine if I had hair barely visible like you, I'd go around being proud for bucking the trend

Keep trying to mansplain womens leg hair to us! Either way, you aren't getting close enough to womens legs to notice if they are shaved or not. So why not just.. not worry about it? It isn't affecting their job performance. You just like to feel in control of other women, which is bizarrely insecure.

I'm a woman, you idiot. I'm a 100% positive you're not as brave in real life as you are when being a keyboard warrior.

I bet you are

You truly are dumb and exhausting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I worked at a well known financial institution. We had an intern, she wore club attire to work. Crop tops, stomach out. Mini skirts. No belt. I actually had to pull her aside and have a conversation with her about her butt crack being exposed before a meeting. At the end of the internship she was surprised when she didn’t get an offer and other kids did.

If she’s a teen, teens usually don’t have a ton of hair yet and if it’s finer and less noticeable sure maybe she can get away with it. If she has thick black leg hair she should know better especially if the men aren’t wearing shorts to work showing theirs.

Read the UBS dress code

I notice that you didn't mention anything to the intern about hair anywhere on her body, or make up. It's pretty clear why this intern's appearance was entirely inappropriate. There is no way this compares to OP's daughter wearing proper clothing but having hair on her legs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

That’s how progress works. Each generation has a particular set of norms to push back on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in a corporate office and have never looked at anyone's legs. Hardly anyone even wears skirts anyway. You all are living back in the 80's or something.

Or like usually DCUM there is one mom here that keeps posting over and over again to humiliate her daughter and keep sexism alive and well.

^I'm an old, retired big law partner and this, this, this.

Yet I bet both of you shave your legs. And if you don't you wear pants. Such hypocrites.

That's not hypocrisy. It's trying to end the cycle of humiliation and sexism -- It ends with us!

+1
Burn the bras!!

But none of you are!!!! You just expect the young generation to be braver than you've ever been. But you love to talk smack on DCUM.

Encouraging women to forge their own path IS supporting them. You don't have to do the exact thing to encourage change in the world.
Unlike you, discouraging women from being themselves and instead conforming to a male-dictated dress code that has nothing to do with a job. You could just, y'know, be supportive of young women who are trying to make the world a more inclusive place instead of standing in their way and sh!tting on them?