Saving seats on SWA

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

This is the person who said all preorders for disabilities need to get off last.
Take it up with her.

The fakers are the people with the wheelchairs. That's been consistent throughout this thread. What else is anyone "faking" that isn't obvious?

There are tons of fakers not in wheelchairs. You don't need a wheelchair to preboard. I'm not going to give you a step by step manual how to fake it. (DP)

However, the ADA does not define what a "reasonable accomodation" is. That is left up to the businesses. And if SW decides that preboarders can't sit in the bulkheads, or the first five rows or whatever, that is fine. If PP doesn't like it, it doesn't matter.

There’s a disability lawyer who fervently hopes they make a decision like this. Insisting people with disabilities get lesser treatment is, in fact, the definition of discrimination. There is no value to Southwest in doing this because none of you people complaining are going to stop flying Southwest. They keep their money, and don’t get sued, by maintaining the current policy.

It's not lesser treatment. Everyone can't sit in exit rows either. You can't argue lesser treatment when you get an accommodation like pre boarding at no extra cost when that isn't available to everyone. They are getting treatment above and beyond everyone else.

Everyone can’t sit in exit rows because you need to be physically fit. There’s no fitness need to exclude people from bulkheads and in some circumstances bulkhead seating is probably preferred for people with mobility difficulties. Telling disabled people they’re not entitled to the seats open to *every other* passenger is, again, the kind of policies that disability lawyers salivate over.

But *every other passenger* actually CANNOT sit in those seats because they are all taken by the preboarders. Those seats are unavailable to us, so no reason they need to be available to you. Southwest could sell them if they chose. They don’t have to provide a premium accommodation, just a “reasonable” one. The entitled folks already sued Disney and lost, bigly.

Accommodations just need to be reasonable. Not better than, more generous, or beyond what other passengers get. Disney abusers found out the hard way that they can take too much and be too greedy and Disney now excludes them. The airlines will be next.

Just stay mad and keep waiting for them to make this change for you. Any second now.

Make what change for me? I pay to board early. I don't need to pretend to be disabled because I'm too poor to pay for the convenience.

Then stop whining about people who board before you getting your precious bulkhead seat.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t like flying Southwest, so I don’t fly Southwest. See how easy this is?

Me too. Flying isn’t fun, no matter the airline. SW, IMHO, is the worst. I don’t want to have to remember to call/text for my boarding space. I much prefer an assigned seat. No matter when I board, my seat will be there and there is no need to get in a cattle line and rush the gate. United is far from perfect, but assigned seats, Economy Plus and Biz upgrades, a global network, and even full cans of drinks, make it way better than SW. Also, like SW, I get free checked bags.

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

This is the person who said all preorders for disabilities need to get off last.
Take it up with her.

The fakers are the people with the wheelchairs. That's been consistent throughout this thread. What else is anyone "faking" that isn't obvious?

There are tons of fakers not in wheelchairs. You don't need a wheelchair to preboard. I'm not going to give you a step by step manual how to fake it. (DP)

However, the ADA does not define what a "reasonable accomodation" is. That is left up to the businesses. And if SW decides that preboarders can't sit in the bulkheads, or the first five rows or whatever, that is fine. If PP doesn't like it, it doesn't matter.

There’s a disability lawyer who fervently hopes they make a decision like this. Insisting people with disabilities get lesser treatment is, in fact, the definition of discrimination. There is no value to Southwest in doing this because none of you people complaining are going to stop flying Southwest. They keep their money, and don’t get sued, by maintaining the current policy.

It's not lesser treatment. Everyone can't sit in exit rows either. You can't argue lesser treatment when you get an accommodation like pre boarding at no extra cost when that isn't available to everyone. They are getting treatment above and beyond everyone else.

Everyone can’t sit in exit rows because you need to be physically fit. There’s no fitness need to exclude people from bulkheads and in some circumstances bulkhead seating is probably preferred for people with mobility difficulties. Telling disabled people they’re not entitled to the seats open to *every other* passenger is, again, the kind of policies that disability lawyers salivate over.

But *every other passenger* actually CANNOT sit in those seats because they are all taken by the preboarders. Those seats are unavailable to us, so no reason they need to be available to you. Southwest could sell them if they chose. They don’t have to provide a premium accommodation, just a “reasonable” one. The entitled folks already sued Disney and lost, bigly.

Accommodations just need to be reasonable. Not better than, more generous, or beyond what other passengers get. Disney abusers found out the hard way that they can take too much and be too greedy and Disney now excludes them. The airlines will be next.

Just stay mad and keep waiting for them to make this change for you. Any second now.

Make what change for me? I pay to board early. I don't need to pretend to be disabled because I'm too poor to pay for the convenience.

Then stop whining about people who board before you getting your precious bulkhead seat.

Wasn't me whining. Just pointing out that the angry entitled poster seemingly doesn't actually travel much and doesn't know much about SWA or their policies. Is that you? Why do you keep posting and arguing without facts?

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Anonymous wrote:I prefer SWA over every other airline. I appreciate not being nickeled and dimed for every bag and paying the same for every seat. Get in line and get on the plane. If you check in 24 hours in advance, you almost never have to sit in a middle seat. I never had a problem sitting with my kids when they were younger. But I also think it's incredibly weird that so many adults feel like they need to sit next to their spouse/partner/friend on a short-haul flight. As long as we all get on the plane, I don't care where DH and my teens sit.

Thank you! DW and I rarely sit together on SWA. She picks the first open seat she sees -- often a middle seat between two women. I look for a window. What's with the desperate need for grown ups to sit together when you're just going to bury your face in a book or your phone?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t like flying Southwest, so I don’t fly Southwest. See how easy this is?

Me too. Flying isn’t fun, no matter the airline. SW, IMHO, is the worst. I don’t want to have to remember to call/text for my boarding space. I much prefer an assigned seat. No matter when I board, my seat will be there and there is no need to get in a cattle line and rush the gate. United is far from perfect, but assigned seats, Economy Plus and Biz upgrades, a global network, and even full cans of drinks, make it way better than SW. Also, like SW, I get free checked bags.

According to WSJ, SW is considering moving to assigned seating.

I do like that you will always fly on a larger aircraft (so no RJs with zero overhead bin space), you can check two bags for free and no change fees (and your credit is good forever).

Like others, our family is happy to disperse on a flight to pick a window or aisle seat or whatever.

If SW moved to assigned seating that would be great.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty rare to save more than one seat and typically the one being saved is the middle (next to the person saving it). I fly SWA all the time (am on a flight right now!) and can’t think of a time I’ve seen someone saving more than one.

I also fly SWA a few times a year and do not notice any excessive seat saving.

+1 I'm on SWA at least four times a year, often more, and haven't run into problems.

And anyway if people *are* saving seats, there will be plenty of good seats left if you've paid for early boarding.

I prefer flying Southwest to lots of other airlines.

+1. The anti- Southwest posters seem to form their opinions based on hearsay, not actual experience.

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Anonymous wrote:I prefer SWA over every other airline. I appreciate not being nickeled and dimed for every bag and paying the same for every seat. Get in line and get on the plane. If you check in 24 hours in advance, you almost never have to sit in a middle seat. I never had a problem sitting with my kids when they were younger. But I also think it's incredibly weird that so many adults feel like they need to sit next to their spouse/partner/friend on a short-haul flight. As long as we all get on the plane, I don't care where DH and my teens sit.

Thank you! DW and I rarely sit together on SWA. She picks the first open seat she sees -- often a middle seat between two women. I look for a window. What's with the desperate need for grown ups to sit together when you're just going to bury your face in a book or your phone?

I wouldn’t say it’s a desperate need but considering how little space there is there days all things being equal I am happier if the person next to me is someone I know. I mean it’s pretty common that if a window seat is open the middle seat next to it is as well.

Don’t even get me started on the window and aisle couples …

[Anonymous]

I’m in a SWA flight now and I tried to sit in a seat some man was saving for his wife. I paid for A. He was too cheap to pay for two A boarding. It totally ticked me off! It’s a form of stealing. I refuse to fly SWA again unless they stop this.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in a SWA flight now and I tried to sit in a seat some man was saving for his wife. I paid for A. He was too cheap to pay for two A boarding. It totally ticked me off! It’s a form of stealing. I refuse to fly SWA again unless they stop this.

No it’s not. Stop the drama.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in a SWA flight now and I tried to sit in a seat some man was saving for his wife. I paid for A. He was too cheap to pay for two A boarding. It totally ticked me off! It’s a form of stealing. I refuse to fly SWA again unless they stop this.

This also doesn’t make sense. You are boarding when less than 1/3 of the plane is occupied if you’re in A boarding. Are you trying for a middle seat or something? What kind of seat was he saving? Only a psychopath pays for early boarding and then wastes it trying to sit directly next to someone.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in a SWA flight now and I tried to sit in a seat some man was saving for his wife. I paid for A. He was too cheap to pay for two A boarding. It totally ticked me off! It’s a form of stealing. I refuse to fly SWA again unless they stop this.

No it’s not. Stop the drama.

Yes it is. You are getting something you never paid for and someone else did.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in a SWA flight now and I tried to sit in a seat some man was saving for his wife. I paid for A. He was too cheap to pay for two A boarding. It totally ticked me off! It’s a form of stealing. I refuse to fly SWA again unless they stop this.

No it’s not. Stop the drama.

Yes it is. You are getting something you never paid for and someone else did.

So stop flying SWA. The whining is unreal for something everyone knows is happening before they buy their tickets…

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t like flying Southwest, so I don’t fly Southwest. See how easy this is?

Me too. Flying isn’t fun, no matter the airline. SW, IMHO, is the worst. I don’t want to have to remember to call/text for my boarding space. I much prefer an assigned seat. No matter when I board, my seat will be there and there is no need to get in a cattle line and rush the gate. United is far from perfect, but assigned seats, Economy Plus and Biz upgrades, a global network, and even full cans of drinks, make it way better than SW. Also, like SW, I get free checked bags.

Economy plus was $100 more on my last trip...without that there is no carry on, last choice of seats and no free bag. I will stick with SW.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t like flying Southwest, so I don’t fly Southwest. See how easy this is?

Me too. Flying isn’t fun, no matter the airline. SW, IMHO, is the worst. I don’t want to have to remember to call/text for my boarding space. I much prefer an assigned seat. No matter when I board, my seat will be there and there is no need to get in a cattle line and rush the gate. United is far from perfect, but assigned seats, Economy Plus and Biz upgrades, a global network, and even full cans of drinks, make it way better than SW. Also, like SW, I get free checked bags.

Economy plus was $100 more on my last trip...without that there is no carry on, last choice of seats and no free bag. I will stick with SW.

No. Economy plus is the extra legroom seats. Standard economy includes carryons and choice of seats. Basic Economy is the one that doesn't include seat assignment or carryon.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty rare to save more than one seat and typically the one being saved is the middle (next to the person saving it). I fly SWA all the time (am on a flight right now!) and can’t think of a time I’ve seen someone saving more than one.

I also fly SWA a few times a year and do not notice any excessive seat saving.

+1 I'm on SWA at least four times a year, often more, and haven't run into problems.

And anyway if people *are* saving seats, there will be plenty of good seats left if you've paid for early boarding.

I prefer flying Southwest to lots of other airlines.

+1. The anti- Southwest posters seem to form their opinions based on hearsay, not actual experience.

I have flown SW plenty and much prefer United. I’m equal distance from BWI and Dulles. Obviously, if you live next to BWI, you’re not going to trek to Dulles, a United hub, just to fly UA- unless it’s for an international flight. BWI has United flights, but only to their hubs and not nearly the choices of SW.

All things being equal, I think United is better all around. As others have said, I don’t like checking in for my place in line and much prefer an assigned seat.