GPA Necessary For HYPSM At Big 3

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NCS SCOIR is updated for 2024! See for yourself whether the shutouts, etc for this year were true!

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Anonymous wrote:NCS SCOIR does not show H,Y, or M but average GPA of Princeton admit is 3.99 and average for Stanford is 3.92. So, you can essentially get one A- in all of high school.

YIKES

yes, SCOIR for NCS is scary. Vanderbilt, Duke, Rice, etc. You basically need a 3.98. One A- max over 4 years and it can only be in a semester long course (not a full year). There are really only 1 or 2 girls per grade who qualify for these schools.

That’s definitely not the case at GDS, STA, and Sidwell. Students from those schools consistently get into those colleges with cumulative 3.80 to 3.90 GPAs.

What’s going on at NCS?!?

My kid has a 3.86/1550 and per NCS SCOIR she is in the Boston College, Colgate, Davidson type band. Pretty much all the top 25 universities are above her pay grade (i.e. the star representing her stats is in a sea of red denials). Which means they're really only available to girls in the top 10% of the class. It's sobering.
Can any other NCS parent comment? I'm confused by this whole thing.

Get ready to apply ED to Chicago.

Are these recommendations for ED or RD? Doesn't that make a huge difference?

No. the girls getting in to Duke/Vandy, etc are doing ED. but they don't get in without the 3.9++ as well.

In CO 2024, there are 12 girls going to ivies. Plus 3 to georgetown, 1 to MIT, 1 to Chicago, 1 to Wash U, 1 to Duke. That's 19 right there. They all got about a 3.9? Or even a 3.85? Seems very doubtful. I think only a few of the 19 are legacies or recruits.

Out of the 12 Ivies at least 3 had a 4.0. The rest all had above 3.9 except a legacy. The Wash U had a 4.0.
The MIT and Duke had a 3.9+. One Georgetown is a faculty kid.

How do you know any individual child’s GPA?

well there were 4 valedictorians who all had a 4.0. Then the rest were cum laude girls who had a 3.9+.
it's all school-wide knowledge.

This is surprising. We had one DD graduate from NCS and her not even the flag winner had a 4.0. I think the grading changed during COVID.

I assume if there was a 4 way tie that they all had 4.0s? This year's grade was the last class that had a year of remote grading. A 4.0 seems insane to me---I don't know how it's even possible. My rising senior is a strong student but was in class sections (several times) where there was a single A given our of 15 girls.

The flag winner/s are determined based only on the highest gpa calculated from junior and senior year. This as well as cum laude is explained in the handbook. So flag winners can have a 4.0 for those 2 years but their overall gpa from 9-12th is not necessarily a 4.0. Winning the flag is not the same as valedictorian because it’s only based on the last 2 years of high school.

Oh this makes more sense!

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Anonymous wrote:NCS SCOIR is updated for 2024! See for yourself whether the shutouts, etc for this year were true!

What did you discover?!

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Anonymous wrote:NCS SCOIR is updated for 2024! See for yourself whether the shutouts, etc for this year were true!

What did you discover?!

It's dismal if your GPA is beneath a 3.95

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Anonymous wrote:NCS SCOIR is updated for 2024! See for yourself whether the shutouts, etc for this year were true!

What did you discover?!

It's dismal if your GPA is beneath a 3.95

Dismal in general or just for HYPSM?

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Anonymous wrote:NCS SCOIR is updated for 2024! See for yourself whether the shutouts, etc for this year were true!

What did you discover?!

It's dismal if your GPA is beneath a 3.95

Dismal in general or just for HYPSM?

3.95 needed for pretty much all top 30 schools and all top 20 liberal arts colleges. UVA, UNC, Wash U, Boston College, etc. Solid red x's beneath a 3.9.

sh$&t. I knew we should have moved this kid.

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i've made this point before, but if that's the case it just doesn't mesh with the fact that there are many girls who land at these schools who are unhooked and likely have sub-3.95 GPAs.

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Anonymous wrote:NCS SCOIR is updated for 2024! See for yourself whether the shutouts, etc for this year were true!

What did you discover?!

It's dismal if your GPA is beneath a 3.95

Dismal in general or just for HYPSM?

3.95 needed for pretty much all top 30 schools and all top 20 liberal arts colleges. UVA, UNC, Wash U, Boston College, etc. Solid red x's beneath a 3.9.

sh$&t. I knew we should have moved this kid.

Girls accepted to UVA and UNC had ~4.0 and 36. Michigan seems to be the exception.

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Anonymous wrote:i've made this point before, but if that's the case it just doesn't mesh with the fact that there are many girls who land at these schools who are unhooked and likely have sub-3.95 GPAs.

This is not based on SCOIR reality. To get into a top 30 school you needed a 3.9+ this year, mostly a 3.95. SCOIR does't lie.

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Anonymous wrote:i've made this point before, but if that's the case it just doesn't mesh with the fact that there are many girls who land at these schools who are unhooked and likely have sub-3.95 GPAs.

This is not based on SCOIR reality. To get into a top 30 school you needed a 3.9+ this year, mostly a 3.95. SCOIR does't lie.

Why the ultra high standards? A few years ago NCS was sending 3.5-3.7 girls to BC, Wake, and other schools in that caliber

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Anonymous wrote:i've made this point before, but if that's the case it just doesn't mesh with the fact that there are many girls who land at these schools who are unhooked and likely have sub-3.95 GPAs.

This is not based on SCOIR reality. To get into a top 30 school you needed a 3.9+ this year, mostly a 3.95. SCOIR does't lie.

Why the ultra high standards? A few years ago NCS was sending 3.5-3.7 girls to BC, Wake, and other schools in that caliber

This year BC required a 3.99/36 from NCS. Everyone else was rejected (8 girls with GPAs in the 3.5 to 3.87 range).
I don't know what happened but many other schools were the same. All Ivies were 3.97+, UVA 3.95+, etc.
If you're not in the top 15 girls in the class and getting straight As your options were very limited.
Does anyone know what happened?

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Anonymous wrote:i've made this point before, but if that's the case it just doesn't mesh with the fact that there are many girls who land at these schools who are unhooked and likely have sub-3.95 GPAs.

This is not based on SCOIR reality. To get into a top 30 school you needed a 3.9+ this year, mostly a 3.95. SCOIR does't lie.

Why the ultra high standards? A few years ago NCS was sending 3.5-3.7 girls to BC, Wake, and other schools in that caliber

This year BC required a 3.99/36 from NCS. Everyone else was rejected (8 girls with GPAs in the 3.5 to 3.87 range).
I don't know what happened but many other schools were the same. All Ivies were 3.97+, UVA 3.95+, etc.
If you're not in the top 15 girls in the class and getting straight As your options were very limited.
Does anyone know what happened?

These schools have a record high number of applicants, thousands of which have 4.0+. In the era of test optional they are choosing to look past kids who are compensating for lower grades with higher test scores regardless of the high school they attended.

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Anonymous wrote:i've made this point before, but if that's the case it just doesn't mesh with the fact that there are many girls who land at these schools who are unhooked and likely have sub-3.95 GPAs.

This is not based on SCOIR reality. To get into a top 30 school you needed a 3.9+ this year, mostly a 3.95. SCOIR does't lie.

Why the ultra high standards? A few years ago NCS was sending 3.5-3.7 girls to BC, Wake, and other schools in that caliber

This year BC required a 3.99/36 from NCS. Everyone else was rejected (8 girls with GPAs in the 3.5 to 3.87 range).
I don't know what happened but many other schools were the same. All Ivies were 3.97+, UVA 3.95+, etc.
If you're not in the top 15 girls in the class and getting straight As your options were very limited.
Does anyone know what happened?

Why does this only seem to be the case with NCS students in this area?
I know of many (more than 10) unhooked students at GDS and Sidwell who were admitted to schools like BC and UVA (and similar T30ish caliber) with GPAs in the 3.75 to 3.90 range. What gives?!?

One caveat: a few were first deferred, then admitted RD, or admitted off the waitlist (I know of 2 from UVA where the latter was the case).

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So how do you convince your over achieving child that there is zero benefit to higher level classes at privates? At least in public they get a gpa bump. I can’t for the life of me figure out what incentive there is to do anything besides get a 4.0.

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Anonymous wrote:i've made this point before, but if that's the case it just doesn't mesh with the fact that there are many girls who land at these schools who are unhooked and likely have sub-3.95 GPAs.

This is not based on SCOIR reality. To get into a top 30 school you needed a 3.9+ this year, mostly a 3.95. SCOIR does't lie.

Why the ultra high standards? A few years ago NCS was sending 3.5-3.7 girls to BC, Wake, and other schools in that caliber

This year BC required a 3.99/36 from NCS. Everyone else was rejected (8 girls with GPAs in the 3.5 to 3.87 range).
I don't know what happened but many other schools were the same. All Ivies were 3.97+, UVA 3.95+, etc.
If you're not in the top 15 girls in the class and getting straight As your options were very limited.
Does anyone know what happened?

What if the only people applying to a given school have a 3.9 and 3.5 (not talking about the BC example)? Or does SCOIR do some sort of average? I get the data doesn't lie, but the inputs are fairly limited. What were the SATs/ACTs required? I would hope the advice for the counselors sheds light on SCOIR and that one doesn't go strictly by SCOIR.