Where did your 3.6 GPA child get in?

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Anonymous wrote:You could ED Wake very early in the process (they have rolling ED) then course correct depending on their response.

Would be a wasted effort,

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Unweighted, Private and plays two sports, but only one at a high level/year round.

what is it weighted? You are not giving a lot of information.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan always recalculates gpa. Private college counselor said no one gets in below 3.7uw, and even then that’s usually WL.

Google Michigan gpa recalculation to see the formula.

Depends on private vs public. Public schools allow test retakes so your UW is expected to be higher. It should be 4.0. Also depends on your classes. Schools view tougher subjects differently. We know kids getting in IVY with unweighted 3.5-3.7 because the kids took impossible class load that was then weighted. There is also
legacy and still if you are part of a desired group that you can write about in your essay. Your college counselor can also discuss anything unique about you as a student. There is so
much that goes into admissions. Colleges are now starting to go back to SAT etc because so hard to figure out which schools inflate/deflate grades. DCUM tends to slant negative. I imagine a bunch of moms encouraging people not to apply to certain schools while their kid applies everywhere. It is a thing.

Not all publics or all teachers allow retakes. Stop the silliness. I’ve had kids in both public and private and I know there can be differences but the generalizations of each is tiresome and mean to the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:You could ED Wake very early in the process (they have rolling ED) then course correct depending on their response.

Would be a wasted effort,

Depends on HS.

Our private HS got a 3.5uw in ED with app submitted in August!!

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Anonymous wrote:You could ED Wake very early in the process (they have rolling ED) then course correct depending on their response.

Would be a wasted effort,

Depends on HS.

Our private HS got a 3.5uw in ED with app submitted in August!!

I’m not saying that no kid would get in at that gpa but it would be very rare, likely be from a school with significant grade deflation and require a hook or outstanding extracurriculars, neither of which are present here.

Op’s so be better off trying for UMiami or Tulane ED, which are both significantly easier admits from our private.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

Your well rounded son will probably do just fine in life. But I do love to see the private schools indoctrinate their students about how they are already "college level" in high school. The crap I have to listen to from these parents. Then when the SATs come in at 1250, its "well, bad testers or they teach more independant thought" at said 60K a year private school. HAHA. Then college. Often drop outs or ending up a T200 schools, and yet they STILL believe their kid "went to college in high school". The sales job on these parents is astounding. Granted the top private school students do get the express train to the good schools through their AO connections but many of the average students are still telling themselves how smart they are - while at a school no one ever heard of. I thought eventually they would wake up when the public kids sailed past them into better schools and internships and jobs, but god love them, they are resolute.

You should write a novel…fiction suits you.

Wow, lots of private school parents overpaying on this thread! Sorry, yes, your snowflake got their college degree in HS and are now about to trounce the public school kids. Let me know how that goes! Please report back on snowie in 6 years!

PP, you’re a nut with a giant chip on her should. I’m an NP, btw. Have taught both public and private. Have had kids in both. Private school is college level in high school. Private school has grade deflation, not inflation like public. Private school does not offer fluff classes, or allow just any kid into honors classes. The GPAs do not translate the same. The are facts. You’ve obviously only had recent experience with public.

Your personal experience does not represent the whole country. Some private schools teach at a high level, some don’t. Some public schools have grade inflation, some don’t.

The SAT scores published by states show some private and public schools with the same scores both on the high end and low end.

If you want to look at facts look at test scoring.

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Anonymous wrote:You could ED Wake very early in the process (they have rolling ED) then course correct depending on their response.

Would be a wasted effort,

I know a 3.55 who got in this year--we're at a Baltimore area private.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

Your well rounded son will probably do just fine in life. But I do love to see the private schools indoctrinate their students about how they are already "college level" in high school. The crap I have to listen to from these parents. Then when the SATs come in at 1250, its "well, bad testers or they teach more independant thought" at said 60K a year private school. HAHA. Then college. Often drop outs or ending up a T200 schools, and yet they STILL believe their kid "went to college in high school". The sales job on these parents is astounding. Granted the top private school students do get the express train to the good schools through their AO connections but many of the average students are still telling themselves how smart they are - while at a school no one ever heard of. I thought eventually they would wake up when the public kids sailed past them into better schools and internships and jobs, but god love them, they are resolute.

You should write a novel…fiction suits you.

Wow, lots of private school parents overpaying on this thread! Sorry, yes, your snowflake got their college degree in HS and are now about to trounce the public school kids. Let me know how that goes! Please report back on snowie in 6 years!

PP, you’re a nut with a giant chip on her should. I’m an NP, btw. Have taught both public and private. Have had kids in both. Private school is college level in high school. Private school has grade deflation, not inflation like public. Private school does not offer fluff classes, or allow just any kid into honors classes. The GPAs do not translate the same. The are facts. You’ve obviously only had recent experience with public.

This would imply that ALL private school kids are smarter than public school kids and they got in because of that and not because of daddy's deep pockets. This is not borne out by SAT or college outcomes. If you disagree, I'd like to see research point out to the 'intellectual superiority' of private school kids.

In case you didn't know, College level in HS is called AP. Of course, you'd know that if really taught anywhere..

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

Your well rounded son will probably do just fine in life. But I do love to see the private schools indoctrinate their students about how they are already "college level" in high school. The crap I have to listen to from these parents. Then when the SATs come in at 1250, its "well, bad testers or they teach more independant thought" at said 60K a year private school. HAHA. Then college. Often drop outs or ending up a T200 schools, and yet they STILL believe their kid "went to college in high school". The sales job on these parents is astounding. Granted the top private school students do get the express train to the good schools through their AO connections but many of the average students are still telling themselves how smart they are - while at a school no one ever heard of. I thought eventually they would wake up when the public kids sailed past them into better schools and internships and jobs, but god love them, they are resolute.

You should write a novel…fiction suits you.

Wow, lots of private school parents overpaying on this thread! Sorry, yes, your snowflake got their college degree in HS and are now about to trounce the public school kids. Let me know how that goes! Please report back on snowie in 6 years!

PP, you’re a nut with a giant chip on her should. I’m an NP, btw. Have taught both public and private. Have had kids in both. Private school is college level in high school. Private school has grade deflation, not inflation like public. Private school does not offer fluff classes, or allow just any kid into honors classes. The GPAs do not translate the same. The are facts. You’ve obviously only had recent experience with public.

This would imply that ALL private school kids are smarter than public school kids and they got in because of that and not because of daddy's deep pockets. This is not borne out by SAT or college outcomes. If you disagree, I'd like to see research point out to the 'intellectual superiority' of private school kids.

In case you didn't know, College level in HS is called AP. Of course, you'd know that if really taught anywhere..

There are a lot more public school kids in America.
As a sheer percentage then, there are a lot of public school kids with less than stellar academic achievement. Many more, percentage wise, than private (where you are kicked out or get crazy remedial help at a 3.3 or 3.2)…..
Facts.
It’s just a #s game.

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Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

This is a good list. Thank you...

I had brought up NYU for ED. I also mentioned he look into UMD and AU and he guffawed like I had insulted him. I hope his college counselor gives him more hard truths in the Fall so he hears it from someone else.

With his GPA, he may not even get into College Park. It’s a reach.

Santa Clara, Lehigh and NYU are good.