Where did your 3.6 GPA child get in?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

Not getting in any of these schools with a 3.6 even ED, except maybe Santa Clara.

You can from our private school. Not ED either.

Case /NYU/Lehigh/Santa Clara all good in RD from our private for this profile.

I think wake has weirdly gotten harder.
Tufts was unusual this year too.

Our kid had a 3.5/1480 and got into NYU, Santa Clara, and Lehigh; didn't apply to the others.

[Anonymous]

Wake is trying to move up to T30.
Def felt increased selectivity in RD this year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

This is a good list. Thank you...

I had brought up NYU for ED. I also mentioned he look into UMD and AU and he guffawed like I had insulted him. I hope his college counselor gives him more hard truths in the Fall so he hears it from someone else.

he's in for a rude awakening. Same thing happened to my DC, magnet 4.0 uwpga, 4.92 wgpa, 1580 SAT kid. Thought they would get into some T20. Nope. They didn't listen to me, either.

Where is your DC now?


I have a kid at a State Flagship now. He is on the Deans list in college after completing his Freshman year. 3.8 UW GPA, 35 ACT first sitting. Denied from most State Flagships.
Interesting that one of these kids said to parents, "it's different now." My experience has been that parents don't recognize that "it's different now" and grossly overestimate how easy it will be for their kid to get into their Ivy/T20 school. Legacy can def help, but it is not a couple pounds on the scale. Perhaps a light touch of a finger, but that's it. Of course there are legacy exceptions for prominent families, major donors, etc.

Just curious what this kid thinks "is different now."

PP here.. They are at a state flagship (which is actually T20 for Eng/cs, and T50 overall, depending on what ranking site you look at) with merit and seems pretty happy there. But, they thought they could get into a T20 overall, and a T10 for Eng/CS. They applied to all T10s for CS/Eng, and the state flagship as a "safety". This was last year. Today, I'm reading/hearing that kids with super high states are getting rejected to this state flagship for this major. It. Is. Brutal. for these types of kids. A 3.6 is not going to cut it unless there is some serious major hook.

They thought their high stats would carry them; they did have some decent e.c.s with one national leadership position, but even that wasn't enough for a highly competitive major like Eng/CS.

IMO, part of the problem is that this area has so many high achieving kids, it's hard to really stand out in these types of majors, especially if you are an UMC white/Asian male, which I'm going to assume OP's DC is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

This is a very good list. As previously mentioned, NYU and Tufts will be more competitive. My DC with a similar profile considered the other three schools, applied ED to one of them and was accepted. Demonstrated interest is important also.

A different major would help immensely.

I guess I dont understand why people would suggest a less practical degree than engineering - engineering is an actual skill and even if they go to a "lesser" school, no one is going to care. You take a "theoretical" major and your employer has to teach you what to do, sorry dont see the point. Apply everywhere and take the curriculum that interests them. Honestly it is better to be an engineering major at GMU than a physics major at a top 20 because employers these days like hard skills.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

Your well rounded son will probably do just fine in life. But I do love to see the private schools indoctrinate their students about how they are already "college level" in high school. The crap I have to listen to from these parents. Then when the SATs come in at 1250, its "well, bad testers or they teach more independant thought" at said 60K a year private school. HAHA. Then college. Often drop outs or ending up a T200 schools, and yet they STILL believe their kid "went to college in high school". The sales job on these parents is astounding. Granted the top private school students do get the express train to the good schools through their AO connections but many of the average students are still telling themselves how smart they are - while at a school no one ever heard of. I thought eventually they would wake up when the public kids sailed past them into better schools and internships and jobs, but god love them, they are resolute.

[Anonymous]

SMU, Syracuse, Miami, Tulane are popular choices for these kids at our Private. Maybe also Clemson if u want big state school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

Your well rounded son will probably do just fine in life. But I do love to see the private schools indoctrinate their students about how they are already "college level" in high school. The crap I have to listen to from these parents. Then when the SATs come in at 1250, its "well, bad testers or they teach more independant thought" at said 60K a year private school. HAHA. Then college. Often drop outs or ending up a T200 schools, and yet they STILL believe their kid "went to college in high school". The sales job on these parents is astounding. Granted the top private school students do get the express train to the good schools through their AO connections but many of the average students are still telling themselves how smart they are - while at a school no one ever heard of. I thought eventually they would wake up when the public kids sailed past them into better schools and internships and jobs, but god love them, they are resolute.

Anger issues ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

Your well rounded son will probably do just fine in life. But I do love to see the private schools indoctrinate their students about how they are already "college level" in high school. The crap I have to listen to from these parents. Then when the SATs come in at 1250, its "well, bad testers or they teach more independant thought" at said 60K a year private school. HAHA. Then college. Often drop outs or ending up a T200 schools, and yet they STILL believe their kid "went to college in high school". The sales job on these parents is astounding. Granted the top private school students do get the express train to the good schools through their AO connections but many of the average students are still telling themselves how smart they are - while at a school no one ever heard of. I thought eventually they would wake up when the public kids sailed past them into better schools and internships and jobs, but god love them, they are resolute.

Anger issues ?

Touché.
Bored angry public school mom on aisle 12.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Lots of good suggestions here. We have a little bit of time and I'm going to discuss a major change with him or else change what schools he's targeting. He's completely delusional, he wanted to focus on Top 20s and have a couple Top 50s as his "back up"... I told him Top 50s needed to be his reaches.

A neighbor of ours had their son from public get into CalTech and because of the college placement from his private school, my son believes some of these schools are more attainable than they truly are. However, college placement is important to his school and I think even if he won't listen to me, they'll get through to him that he needs some other choices.

So, he thinks that a high achieving public school student is the same as a 3.6 from private school?

Do you know what the neighbor's stats and activities were like? That might help with the comparison, and where your DS stands.

My son thinks a 3.6 from private is good enough and maybe even better than a 4.0 from public. There is no comparison to DS and our neighbors kid. Neighbor is incredibly academic, straight As, many APs, all around wonderfully smart and articulate and URM. My son is... Let's just say, "well-rounded" and not short on confidence, he plays one sport seriously, with a revolving door of other activities, very social and only really applies himself to classes he believes are important.

Your well rounded son will probably do just fine in life. But I do love to see the private schools indoctrinate their students about how they are already "college level" in high school. The crap I have to listen to from these parents. Then when the SATs come in at 1250, its "well, bad testers or they teach more independant thought" at said 60K a year private school. HAHA. Then college. Often drop outs or ending up a T200 schools, and yet they STILL believe their kid "went to college in high school". The sales job on these parents is astounding. Granted the top private school students do get the express train to the good schools through their AO connections but many of the average students are still telling themselves how smart they are - while at a school no one ever heard of. I thought eventually they would wake up when the public kids sailed past them into better schools and internships and jobs, but god love them, they are resolute.

You should write a novel…fiction suits you.

[Anonymous]

Michigan for the 3.6ers. They love yhe full pay OOS tuition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

Not getting in any of these schools with a 3.6 even ED, except maybe Santa Clara.

You can from our private school. Not ED either.

Case /NYU/Lehigh/Santa Clara all good in RD from our private for this profile.

I think wake has weirdly gotten harder.
Tufts was unusual this year too.

Our kid had a 3.5/1480 and got into NYU, Santa Clara, and Lehigh; didn't apply to the others.

What college in NYU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Michigan for the 3.6ers. They love yhe full pay OOS tuition.

UMich or Mich States? Becuase 3.6 is low for UMich.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan for the 3.6ers. They love yhe full pay OOS tuition.

UMich or Mich States? Becuase 3.6 is low for UMich.

Weighted would be low but not unweighted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Unweighted, Private and plays two sports, but only one at a high level/year round.

Unweighted with higher weighted and two sports he could go anywhere. Apply everywhere why not. Private schools know that go without multiple retests he is well positioned.

[Anonymous]

maybe try a "lower" UC school if he's willing to go west coast and OOS tuition isn't a problem. Maybe even some cal state schools like cal poly SLO.