Are there four year colleges for C students.

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ODU. Loved my experience there! Study Abroad and live close to the beach!

NP, YES, the beach. Thats what i have been trying to sell to my kid!! Convinced that she "must" go out of state.

If she's in the ODU range, tell her she hasn't earned the opportunity yo go outvof state.

Good gravy. You are a nasty piece of work.

ODU has a lot to offer and it’s sad that people continue to have such a lousy attitude about it.

I took what the PPs were saying to be more along the lines of saying their DCs aren’t necessarily mature and/or hard working enough for the parent to be willing to financially support them going way out of state.

But I can see where it would also be construed as shitting on ODU

It was the former. From the start, we've told our 4.05 wgpa/no EC's kid that in-state schools were what we could afford.

If she were straight A's and a million EC's, maybe we'd bend and look at expensive out of state schools that are better than any of the in-state publics.

But she's a very good but not incredible student, so we're not. If she were a C student, no way in h-e-double hockey sticks would we send her out of state and pay full pay out of state costs.

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Anonymous wrote:It really depends on the high school. My son went to local very rigorous private. Graduated with a 2.99, admitted to Pitt, F&M, Lafayette, Furman, Sewanee, Indiana, Conn College and a few others I am forgetting. Maintaining a C+ average in college, too, unfortunately, because of his LDs. Incredibly intelligent kid, excelling in some subjects and bombing others. Fortunately, he knows this about himself and has learned to be okay with it. He will have a degree in a year and half and then figure it out from there. But yes, college is possible if he is hard worker and knows his strengths.

Lol yea “incredibly intelligent” but couldn’t break a 3.0 in either high school or college. Ok.

I'm guessing you are not "incredibly intelligent," otherwise you would know that plenty of highly intelligent people get low grades, especially in high school.

Nope. Not all through high school and college they don’t. Especially not nowadays.

Come on now. WTF are you talking about. My kid who has a higher IQ and is very intelligent gets worse grades than my less smart but harder working kid. Were you literally born yesterday?

If your kid has a C average in both high school in college, then no, the kid is not “very intelligent”. I don’t care what some silly test says about his IQ.

How about you just shut up if you can’t offer kind and constructive advice. No need to be so hateful and such a know it all.

-NP

I am offering constructive advice, which is that a student with a C+ average in high school is highly unlikely to do well at most colleges, and probably should aim very low. I also would not invest any money in educating that student at a private college. There is at least a 50-50 chance that the student will not graduate.

Tell me you don’t know a thing about human brain development without telling me you don’t know a thing about brain development. (Hint: doesn’t fully develop until 25)

-Ivy League grad (magna cum laude) who held a lower than C GPA in high school.

I call bullshit. Total bullshit.

I believe this poster. I was a C student in high school (ant a top private school) and college but graduated top of my class in law school. I didn’t bother studying or going to class until law school, when I finally had some maturity, desire to succeed and interest in the subjects. Now that I have two kids with ADHD, I recognize that I clearly have it. I believe there is such a thing as a late bloomer and also believe that intelligent people can do poorly in school for a multitude of reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:It really depends on the high school. My son went to local very rigorous private. Graduated with a 2.99, admitted to Pitt, F&M, Lafayette, Furman, Sewanee, Indiana, Conn College and a few others I am forgetting. Maintaining a C+ average in college, too, unfortunately, because of his LDs. Incredibly intelligent kid, excelling in some subjects and bombing others. Fortunately, he knows this about himself and has learned to be okay with it. He will have a degree in a year and half and then figure it out from there. But yes, college is possible if he is hard worker and knows his strengths.

Lol yea “incredibly intelligent” but couldn’t break a 3.0 in either high school or college. Ok.

I'm guessing you are not "incredibly intelligent," otherwise you would know that plenty of highly intelligent people get low grades, especially in high school.

Nope. Not all through high school and college they don’t. Especially not nowadays.

Come on now. WTF are you talking about. My kid who has a higher IQ and is very intelligent gets worse grades than my less smart but harder working kid. Were you literally born yesterday?

If your kid has a C average in both high school in college, then no, the kid is not “very intelligent”. I don’t care what some silly test says about his IQ.

How about you just shut up if you can’t offer kind and constructive advice. No need to be so hateful and such a know it all.

-NP

I am offering constructive advice, which is that a student with a C+ average in high school is highly unlikely to do well at most colleges, and probably should aim very low. I also would not invest any money in educating that student at a private college. There is at least a 50-50 chance that the student will not graduate.

Tell me you don’t know a thing about human brain development without telling me you don’t know a thing about brain development. (Hint: doesn’t fully develop until 25)

-Ivy League grad (magna cum laude) who held a lower than C GPA in high school.

I call bullshit. Total bullshit.

I believe this poster. I was a C student in high school (ant a top private school) and college but graduated top of my class in law school. I didn’t bother studying or going to class until law school, when I finally had some maturity, desire to succeed and interest in the subjects. Now that I have two kids with ADHD, I recognize that I clearly have it. I believe there is such a thing as a late bloomer and also believe that intelligent people can do poorly in school for a multitude of reasons.

Are you saying that you were a C student in high school and got into an Ivy League college? I don’t think so. That other poster is saying that, and that’s what is bullshit.

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Can we please keep examples to the last three years since this is when college admissions really changed. We don’t want to hear stories from 30 years ago, which are completely irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:It really depends on the high school. My son went to local very rigorous private. Graduated with a 2.99, admitted to Pitt, F&M, Lafayette, Furman, Sewanee, Indiana, Conn College and a few others I am forgetting. Maintaining a C+ average in college, too, unfortunately, because of his LDs. Incredibly intelligent kid, excelling in some subjects and bombing others. Fortunately, he knows this about himself and has learned to be okay with it. He will have a degree in a year and half and then figure it out from there. But yes, college is possible if he is hard worker and knows his strengths.

Lol yea “incredibly intelligent” but couldn’t break a 3.0 in either high school or college. Ok.

I'm guessing you are not "incredibly intelligent," otherwise you would know that plenty of highly intelligent people get low grades, especially in high school.

Nope. Not all through high school and college they don’t. Especially not nowadays.

Come on now. WTF are you talking about. My kid who has a higher IQ and is very intelligent gets worse grades than my less smart but harder working kid. Were you literally born yesterday?

If your kid has a C average in both high school in college, then no, the kid is not “very intelligent”. I don’t care what some silly test says about his IQ.

How about you just shut up if you can’t offer kind and constructive advice. No need to be so hateful and such a know it all.

-NP

I am offering constructive advice, which is that a student with a C+ average in high school is highly unlikely to do well at most colleges, and probably should aim very low. I also would not invest any money in educating that student at a private college. There is at least a 50-50 chance that the student will not graduate.

Tell me you don’t know a thing about human brain development without telling me you don’t know a thing about brain development. (Hint: doesn’t fully develop until 25)

-Ivy League grad (magna cum laude) who held a lower than C GPA in high school.

I call bullshit. Total bullshit.

I believe this poster. I was a C student in high school (ant a top private school) and college but graduated top of my class in law school. I didn’t bother studying or going to class until law school, when I finally had some maturity, desire to succeed and interest in the subjects. Now that I have two kids with ADHD, I recognize that I clearly have it. I believe there is such a thing as a late bloomer and also believe that intelligent people can do poorly in school for a multitude of reasons.

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PP who doesn't believe those of us with actual experience with brilliant people who get Cs regularly, just can't understand things they haven't experienced themselves.

The brilliant C student is not an uncommon phenomenon. They tend to do amazing things in the real world, but but aren't well suited to the artificial environment of schooling.

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There is a reason these schools do not publish average GPAs in the CDS.

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Just a reminder to folks that OP’s kid is not a typical “C student” (whatever that means). They were sick. If you don’t have personal experience with the way illness can cause a kid’s grades to plummet…well, then actually I’m happy for you. But if OP’s kid was seriously ill, especially for an extended time, their grades won’t be an accurate representation of their ability, motivation, or potential.

OP, I hope this thread is, on the whole, more helpful to you than not.

Be sure to look for a school where your kid will be supported, and where there can be a lot of proactive (and shame-free) conversation about needs and goals. It’s possible there will be gaps in knowledge. You want to make sure your kid doesn’t get in over her head should these gaps reveal themselves. Wishing you both well.

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Anonymous wrote:PP who doesn't believe those of us with actual experience with brilliant people who get Cs regularly, just can't understand things they haven't experienced themselves.

The brilliant C student is not an uncommon phenomenon. They tend to do amazing things in the real world, but but aren't well suited to the artificial environment of schooling.

+1000000

Around here, if you didn’t go from starting school early to a magnet program to 27,000 AP’s plus an IB diploma to an Ivy, you’re a moron.

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I have a 3.1 student who has gotten into multiple colleges. Even got merit at several schools to bring the cost to $30-$50 K. It partly depends on course rigor. There are many options, just not ones that DCUM talk about all the time. Look at smaller schools in Maryland and PA, less popular state schools like WVU or Kentucky, and state schools in VA that aren't UVA and VT.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA slightly below 3.0

Are there schools other than community college?

Of course!

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Anonymous wrote:Can we please keep examples to the last three years since this is when college admissions really changed. We don’t want to hear stories from 30 years ago, which are completely irrelevant.

There is a reason these schools do not publish average GPAs in the CDS.

This has stood out to me as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder to folks that OP’s kid is not a typical “C student” (whatever that means). They were sick. If you don’t have personal experience with the way illness can cause a kid’s grades to plummet…well, then actually I’m happy for you. But if OP’s kid was seriously ill, especially for an extended time, their grades won’t be an accurate representation of their ability, motivation, or potential.

OP, I hope this thread is, on the whole, more helpful to you than not.

Be sure to look for a school where your kid will be supported, and where there can be a lot of proactive (and shame-free) conversation about needs and goals. It’s possible there will be gaps in knowledge. You want to make sure your kid doesn’t get in over her head should these gaps reveal themselves. Wishing you both well.

My friend's son had a severe concussion that derailed high school and ultimately he had to repeat senior year. No idea what his ultimate GPA was but it would not have been perfect. But he ended up accepted to University of Washington in CS and then transferred to Cornell. Smart kid who had a tough road and showed a lot of resilience. That matters a lot.

Good luck OP, I'm sure your kid will have a lot of options. Be sure the counselor explains the situation and use the "other information" section on the common app for the student to explain too (if it doesn't become the common app topic).

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As a former high school teacher, I know of a lot of A students in high school who were hand-held by parents and ended up doing quite poorly in college.

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ODU. Loved my experience there! Study Abroad and live close to the beach!

NP, YES, the beach. Thats what i have been trying to sell to my kid!! Convinced that she "must" go out of state.

If she's in the ODU range, tell her she hasn't earned the opportunity yo go outvof state.

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A kid with poor grades doesn’t get to have such stringent parameters about where they want to go.