Yale Admissions

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To put you all out of your misery:

Yale took 9% of the REA applicants. 709 of 7856 applicants. They deferred 1531 and rejected the rest - 70%. They don’t have time to do another round on 6000 students in RD.

So, the usual. Priority applicants get in, 1531 competitive enough to be in the mix with RD, the rest not sufficiently competitive.

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Particularly if this involves your kid, please don’t think of it as something lacking or that your kid did anything wrong. Most were “competitive”. The University has switched to making the hard call up front. They know they can’t take them all, and plenty of competitive candidates ultimately won’t get in. At best, it was they didn’t particularly stand out in some way from all the other competitive kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Other than Legacy/Athlete/URM - any DMV admits at all? Looking at our school, this seems to take up 100 percent of the cases.

Not to re-open the debate that was going on earlier, but my DC was accepted rea to Yale this year. Not legacy, white/asian, not an athlete. Goes to a relatively good public school in DC. None of the other ivy/t25 early admits there were hooked either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other than Legacy/Athlete/URM - any DMV admits at all? Looking at our school, this seems to take up 100 percent of the cases.

Not to re-open the debate that was going on earlier, but my DC was accepted rea to Yale this year. Not legacy, white/asian, not an athlete. Goes to a relatively good public school in DC. None of the other ivy/t25 early admits there were hooked either.

Thanks for this reality check. My kid wasn't admitted, but from what I hear about EA/ED admissions at his MCPOS school, this is true there as well. All of the t25 early admits that he knows well enough to categorize were unhooked (or athletic recruits).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other than Legacy/Athlete/URM - any DMV admits at all? Looking at our school, this seems to take up 100 percent of the cases.

Not to re-open the debate that was going on earlier, but my DC was accepted rea to Yale this year. Not legacy, white/asian, not an athlete. Goes to a relatively good public school in DC. None of the other ivy/t25 early admits there were hooked either.

Stats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To put you all out of your misery:

Yale took 9% of the REA applicants. 709 of 7856 applicants. They deferred 1531 and rejected the rest - 70%. They don’t have time to do another round on 6000 students in RD.

So, the usual. Priority applicants get in, 1531 competitive enough to be in the mix with RD, the rest not sufficiently competitive.

.

Particularly if this involves your kid, please don’t think of it as something lacking or that your kid did anything wrong. Most were “competitive”. The University has switched to making the hard call up front. They know they can’t take them all, and plenty of competitive candidates ultimately won’t get in. At best, it was they didn’t particularly stand out in some way from all the other competitive kids.

In the early rounds you are competing against very, VERY highly qualified candidates. I often wonder if some would have been better RD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It should be noted that the posters on this board are disproportionately from the "top" public and private schools in the DMV area. These statements that "every admitted student they know is hooked" is completely shaded by the fact that their circles are disproportionately in the "top" schools in the DMV. Most of these schools have a ton of legacies, and the EA round is dominated by legacies because kids either want to go to parents' alma mater or think legacy will give them a bump so they apply early.

My kid goes to a different Ivy and so I know the kids who attend there. Lots of unhooked white/Asian kids. I know several in this category from the DMV. I remember thinking that the narrative that unhooked kids need to have national-finalist-level awards and extracurriculars was BS. It's true that there are *SO* many applicants that it is essentially a lottery. But a lot of the lottery winners were smart, engaged white/Asian kids, even from the DMV.

That said, if you are in one of the best schools in the DMV, there will be so many legacy/hooked applicants from your school (and top universities tend to only accept a handful from each school) that these perceptions may be warranted in that context.

That’s a good point. This would mean - if you’re unhooked at a selective private, you have 0 chance at an Ivy. Unhooked talented kids had better stay in public.

[Anonymous]

DC was deferred and later rejected at one SCEA school; accept in RD in at a different SCEA school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Other than Legacy/Athlete/URM - any DMV admits at all? Looking at our school, this seems to take up 100 percent of the cases.

Yes, there is little room for kids admitted solely on merit these days.

NP. Junior mom. A little shocked to see the assertions on this thread. What an awful situation for our top universities to be driven by legacy considerations. Even the UK with its traditions of royalty does not permit this.

Virtually all the legacies I know getting admitted are highly qualified. I'd be much more concerned about the famous/influential people's kids or the 1st gens/URMs.

If highly qualified, they should compete EQUALLY against non legacies. Tons of people are qualified. To edge out others on the basis of legacy is the problem.

Let's assume the legacy goes to a Big 3 and "edges out" someone from their school with similar stats, income level, ECs, and race. I don't always see any big issue with the legacy preference there. The legacy kids are not pushing out the first gen and URM applicants the schools are recruiting so hard to get. They are pushing out kids in similarly advantaged situations. If anything, an UMC kid could have a bone to pick.

In our Big 3, in nearly every legacy vs. good academics last year, the good academics kid has been from a middle-income to scholarship kid who was amazing academically but passed over for an 'okay' academic kid who happened to be a legacy and usually very wealthy family. Not similarly advantaged.

What about good academics kids from middle income families, URM, not legacy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It should be noted that the posters on this board are disproportionately from the "top" public and private schools in the DMV area. These statements that "every admitted student they know is hooked" is completely shaded by the fact that their circles are disproportionately in the "top" schools in the DMV. Most of these schools have a ton of legacies, and the EA round is dominated by legacies because kids either want to go to parents' alma mater or think legacy will give them a bump so they apply early.

My kid goes to a different Ivy and so I know the kids who attend there. Lots of unhooked white/Asian kids. I know several in this category from the DMV. I remember thinking that the narrative that unhooked kids need to have national-finalist-level awards and extracurriculars was BS. It's true that there are *SO* many applicants that it is essentially a lottery. But a lot of the lottery winners were smart, engaged white/Asian kids, even from the DMV.

That said, if you are in one of the best schools in the DMV, there will be so many legacy/hooked applicants from your school (and top universities tend to only accept a handful from each school) that these perceptions may be warranted in that context.

That’s a good point. This would mean - if you’re unhooked at a selective private, you have 0 chance at an Ivy. Unhooked talented kids had better stay in public.

There ar also plenty of hooked kids at the dmv public schools attended by the dcum crowd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other than Legacy/Athlete/URM - any DMV admits at all? Looking at our school, this seems to take up 100 percent of the cases.

Not to re-open the debate that was going on earlier, but my DC was accepted rea to Yale this year. Not legacy, white/asian, not an athlete. Goes to a relatively good public school in DC. None of the other ivy/t25 early admits there were hooked either.

Stats?

Not OP. My kid was hooked (URM) and was deferred. 1550 and 4.8-something GPA (2 Bs; tons of core subject APs). Ah well; it's a crap shoot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other than Legacy/Athlete/URM - any DMV admits at all? Looking at our school, this seems to take up 100 percent of the cases.

Not to re-open the debate that was going on earlier, but my DC was accepted rea to Yale this year. Not legacy, white/asian, not an athlete. Goes to a relatively good public school in DC. None of the other ivy/t25 early admits there were hooked either.

Stats?

Not OP. My kid was hooked (URM) and was deferred. 1550 and 4.8-something GPA (2 Bs; tons of core subject APs). Ah well; it's a crap shoot.

Mine was deferred at Yale too. 36 ACT, top student in the school. Not only double legacy but had immediate relative on faculty. It is what it is.

[Anonymous]

Dc goes to Yale and suite-mates are just nerdy, nice, accomplished kids. Musicians, math-tourney jocks, published creative writers. None are URM or athletes or legacy. A few are mildly conservative; there are at least five conservative political groups on campus, one with 600 members.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other than Legacy/Athlete/URM - any DMV admits at all? Looking at our school, this seems to take up 100 percent of the cases.

Not to re-open the debate that was going on earlier, but my DC was accepted rea to Yale this year. Not legacy, white/asian, not an athlete. Goes to a relatively good public school in DC. None of the other ivy/t25 early admits there were hooked either.

Congrats and how exciting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other than Legacy/Athlete/URM - any DMV admits at all? Looking at our school, this seems to take up 100 percent of the cases.

Not to re-open the debate that was going on earlier, but my DC was accepted rea to Yale this year. Not legacy, white/asian, not an athlete. Goes to a relatively good public school in DC. None of the other ivy/t25 early admits there were hooked either.

Congrats and how exciting.

I'd love for my sons to end up in that environment instead of the huge drinking party schools with girls flashing their boobs all over the stadium, and drinking themselves into an oblivion 5 nights out of the week...with little care for academics. College campuses have taken the partying from 1980s/90s to total whoreville and debauchery and trouble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other than Legacy/Athlete/URM - any DMV admits at all? Looking at our school, this seems to take up 100 percent of the cases.

Not to re-open the debate that was going on earlier, but my DC was accepted rea to Yale this year. Not legacy, white/asian, not an athlete. Goes to a relatively good public school in DC. None of the other ivy/t25 early admits there were hooked either.

Same for us. Kid in at another Ivy early. White. My other kid was '22, and 4 of 5 admitted to their Ivy were white/Asian and I don’t think had any hooks. Neither of mine did. Public magnet school.