COVID Lockdowns Were a Giant Experiment. It Was a Failure.

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You must not be dealing with the aftermath in your family. Also, what about learning from our mistakes? Not so easy to move on when people like you are in DENIAL.

I know four separate families where someone died from Covid. Two of them were parents of young children.

Sit down with your “dealing with the aftermath” bullshit.

I really don’t care that your child has a learning gap or whatever you are on about. They will get over it.

Maybe see a professional for help with your heinously insensitive obsession with this.

And I know 2 separate families with young children, where parents committed suicide due to lockdowns and losing their business. So you can take all the seats.

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You must not be dealing with the aftermath in your family. Also, what about learning from our mistakes? Not so easy to move on when people like you are in DENIAL.

I know four separate families where someone died from Covid. Two of them were parents of young children.

Sit down with your “dealing with the aftermath” bullshit.

I really don’t care that your child has a learning gap or whatever you are on about. They will get over it.

Maybe see a professional for help with your heinously insensitive obsession with this.

And I know 2 separate families with young children, where parents committed suicide due to lockdowns and losing their business. So you can take all the seats.

The cause of the deaths are not equivalent.

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You must not be dealing with the aftermath in your family. Also, what about learning from our mistakes? Not so easy to move on when people like you are in DENIAL.

I know four separate families where someone died from Covid. Two of them were parents of young children.

Sit down with your “dealing with the aftermath” bullshit.

I really don’t care that your child has a learning gap or whatever you are on about. They will get over it.

Maybe see a professional for help with your heinously insensitive obsession with this.

And I know 2 separate families with young children, where parents committed suicide due to lockdowns and losing their business. So you can take all the seats.

The cause of the deaths are not equivalent.

You don't get to decide that at all. But for ridiculous policies that didn't help, they would be here.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is still obsessed and mad over “lockdowns” (which isn’t anything we ever did in this country anyway).

the National Guard wouldn’t let me sit in the park in April 2020.

What park was that, dearie?

I don’t remember any National Guard deployments related to Covid so I am going to call “bullshit” on this one.

Again, I don’t understand the obsession with this. As was previously stated, public health officials did the best they could with the information available at the time. And the goal was to not overwhelm hospitals— to slow the spread, not prevent people from getting sick. They just didn’t want people sick all at once. To that end, social distancing (not “lockdowns” we never had actual lockdowns) were largely effective. Somehow these obsessed people have moved the goalposts and think the objective was preventing people from getting it. That was never the stated objective.

It was in DC. But sure, continue to lie all you want. It’s all you have now.

Liar.

Nope: https://www.113wg.ang.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2452350/a-look-back-at-2020-dc-national-guard-covid-19-response-efforts/

Nope. You couldn’t even spend the time to read what you posted to support your lies.

“The D.C. National Guard’s COVID-19 support missions included creating standalone hospital rooms, helping maintain social distancing guidelines and sewing masks.”

“The D.C. National Guard provided logistical support, transportation and security to the converted facility.”

“Guardsmen helped maintain a calm environment while ensuring shoppers observed social distancing guidelines at supermarkets, monuments, and the Wharf. At a time when the capital region was experiencing face mask shortages, the 113th Aircrew Flight Equipment shop fabricated about 800 masks.”

The National Guard was not kicking old ladies out of parks.

“helping maintain social distance.” what do you think that means? they made me get up and said I could not sit in the park.

here’s another source: https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/parks-open-people-npt-adhering-to-social-distancing-rules/65-f3d428e9-76a8-43e4-b4a5-e4d22fcb2acc

That people should stay 6’ apart. Maintaining social distance ≠ not being able to sit in a park.

People lie about so many things on this site, but you take the cake.

Like, the National Guard wasn't patrolling parks? Keep on moving that bar.

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Covid is an awful disease that killed a lot of people AND our response and "lockdown" policies could have been better. Both can be true.

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You must not be dealing with the aftermath in your family. Also, what about learning from our mistakes? Not so easy to move on when people like you are in DENIAL.

I know four separate families where someone died from Covid. Two of them were parents of young children.

Sit down with your “dealing with the aftermath” bullshit.

I really don’t care that your child has a learning gap or whatever you are on about. They will get over it.

Maybe see a professional for help with your heinously insensitive obsession with this.

And I know 2 separate families with young children, where parents committed suicide due to lockdowns and losing their business. So you can take all the seats.

Sucks to be them. I am sorry they were mentally weak. But that isn’t the fault of lockdowns since … *checks notes* there never were any lockdowns ever anywhere in the USA.

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You must not be dealing with the aftermath in your family. Also, what about learning from our mistakes? Not so easy to move on when people like you are in DENIAL.

I know four separate families where someone died from Covid. Two of them were parents of young children.

Sit down with your “dealing with the aftermath” bullshit.

I really don’t care that your child has a learning gap or whatever you are on about. They will get over it.

Maybe see a professional for help with your heinously insensitive obsession with this.

And I know 2 separate families with young children, where parents committed suicide due to lockdowns and losing their business. So you can take all the seats.

The cause of the deaths are not equivalent.

OP is a lying liar who lies.

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You must not be dealing with the aftermath in your family. Also, what about learning from our mistakes? Not so easy to move on when people like you are in DENIAL.

I know four separate families where someone died from Covid. Two of them were parents of young children.

Sit down with your “dealing with the aftermath” bullshit.

I really don’t care that your child has a learning gap or whatever you are on about. They will get over it.

Maybe see a professional for help with your heinously insensitive obsession with this.

And I know 2 separate families with young children, where parents committed suicide due to lockdowns and losing their business. So you can take all the seats.

Sucks to be them. I am sorry they were mentally weak. But that isn’t the fault of lockdowns since … *checks notes* there never were any lockdowns ever anywhere in the USA.

When you own a bar and people weren't allowed to be in your bar, checks notes, the business will likely go under. Let's talk about your comorbities that made you so fearful of Covid, shall we? You are obviously not a healthy low risk person.

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You must not be dealing with the aftermath in your family. Also, what about learning from our mistakes? Not so easy to move on when people like you are in DENIAL.

I know four separate families where someone died from Covid. Two of them were parents of young children.

Sit down with your “dealing with the aftermath” bullshit.

I really don’t care that your child has a learning gap or whatever you are on about. They will get over it.

Maybe see a professional for help with your heinously insensitive obsession with this.

And I know 2 separate families with young children, where parents committed suicide due to lockdowns and losing their business. So you can take all the seats.

Sucks to be them. I am sorry they were mentally weak. But that isn’t the fault of lockdowns since … *checks notes* there never were any lockdowns ever anywhere in the USA.

When you own a bar and people weren't allowed to be in your bar, checks notes, the business will likely go under. Let's talk about your comorbities that made you so fearful of Covid, shall we? You are obviously not a healthy low risk person.

If you reduce COVID to only fat and elderly and unhealthy people get it so the rest of should not have been inconvenienced, you will not have a lot of people on your side here.

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Anonymous wrote:So this is about you being in a snit fit over school closings?

Newsflash: Teachers were not going to return to the classroom because they were the exact demographic Covid was killing.

No they were not the “exact demographic.” And of course somehow teachers in private schools, Florida, the UK and Sweden returned. This heightened risk for teachers somehow only existed in blue state cities.

We all know what happened - the teachers unions imposed on the Biden Admin to keep schools closed and “keep poor kids out of school” became the bizarro campaign of the left.

Remind me again. Who was POTUS in Fall 2020 when privates opened and publics did not? Why yes, for the first ten months it was Trump. FCPS was open for students who wanted to attend 2 months after Biden’s inauguration. And they were very late to reopen vs other publics nationally.

You are entitled to your own opinion. You do not get to create facts. Trump was POTUS when decisions for the 2030-2021 school year were made. Fact.

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You must not be dealing with the aftermath in your family. Also, what about learning from our mistakes? Not so easy to move on when people like you are in DENIAL.

I know four separate families where someone died from Covid. Two of them were parents of young children.

Sit down with your “dealing with the aftermath” bullshit.

I really don’t care that your child has a learning gap or whatever you are on about. They will get over it.

Maybe see a professional for help with your heinously insensitive obsession with this.

And I know 2 separate families with young children, where parents committed suicide due to lockdowns and losing their business. So you can take all the seats.

Sucks to be them. I am sorry they were mentally weak. But that isn’t the fault of lockdowns since … *checks notes* there never were any lockdowns ever anywhere in the USA.

DP. Hello stranger! It’s you, the no lockdown poster. Are your kids finally in normal school?

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Anonymous wrote:In retrospect, it was appropriate to close schools in March, 2020. Covid was new. People were dying in Wuhan. The hospital system in Italy became totally overwhelmed. Then New York City. And so on and so forth. It was a new virus. No one knew anything. People were dying. The health care system didn't have the capacity or the knowledge to deal with this. Shutting things down at that moment in time was the right call.

Six months later when we knew a lot more - and particularly after we had effective vaccines - it was a disaster to close schools for another year. The learning loss was enormous. And so too was the basic socialization of children. Formative brains do not do well in isolation. Kids need school for lots of reasons. Anyone who has spent any time in public schools lately can attest that this is often a pretty damaged group of kids.

It was a mistake to keep schools closed. Blame the teachers union. Blame the political polarization at that time. If you recall, keeping schools closed made you a good liberal. Wanting them open made you a heartless MAGA. It was an ugly time and we made a mistake shutting things down for kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly at this point who cares. We did the best we could under a unique and heretofore inexperienced event. This is for scientists to be studying to plan for future pandemics. Getting angry now is ridiculous.

The problem is we weren’t allowed to ask questions and dissenting views were discouraged. Anytime you’re not allowed to ask questions or push back on something you should be concerned. The climate at the time didn’t allow questioning of precautions.

There was NON STOP questioning of the precautions. It's just that at the time, when the wrong answer had a possible outcome of death, a large number of people were not in support of increasing risk.

I now believe--based on information we now have--that we could have reduced restrictions sooner. I also think it was understandable and appropriate that we didn't do thatat the time--based on limited information. Both of those thing can be true.

I hope we get really, REALLY good long-term studies from this pandemic, and I hope we can take lessons that will help in the next pandemic. But like PP, I see no value in being "angry" about Covid response. I wish people would let go of their anger, or desire to "win" the Covid Debate, so we can all move forward together with lessons learned.

You think it was understandable and appropriate that children could not return to school buildings on a full-time basis until the fall of 2021? Just trying to understand your position.

My DD was in HS in FCPS. Plain ordinary, non-SPED, no special priority. She was in a classroom FT, 4 days a week in March 2021. Now, that was our choice. She could have opted to finish the year virtually. We played the parent card and sent her back. But FCPS kids had that option. And FCPS was very late to return kids vs schools nationally.

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You must not be dealing with the aftermath in your family. Also, what about learning from our mistakes? Not so easy to move on when people like you are in DENIAL.

I know four separate families where someone died from Covid. Two of them were parents of young children.

Sit down with your “dealing with the aftermath” bullshit.

I really don’t care that your child has a learning gap or whatever you are on about. They will get over it.

Maybe see a professional for help with your heinously insensitive obsession with this.

And I know 2 separate families with young children, where parents committed suicide due to lockdowns and losing their business. So you can take all the seats.

Sucks to be them. I am sorry they were mentally weak. But that isn’t the fault of lockdowns since … *checks notes* there never were any lockdowns ever anywhere in the USA.

When you own a bar and people weren't allowed to be in your bar, checks notes, the business will likely go under. Let's talk about your comorbities that made you so fearful of Covid, shall we? You are obviously not a healthy low risk person.

If you reduce COVID to only fat and elderly and unhealthy people get it so the rest of should not have been inconvenienced, you will not have a lot of people on your side here.

Why should I be on the side of people crying that those struggling with depression were mentally weak? I don't want to be on that person's side. That is a garbage person.

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Anonymous wrote:In retrospect, it was appropriate to close schools in March, 2020. Covid was new. People were dying in Wuhan. The hospital system in Italy became totally overwhelmed. Then New York City. And so on and so forth. It was a new virus. No one knew anything. People were dying. The health care system didn't have the capacity or the knowledge to deal with this. Shutting things down at that moment in time was the right call.

Six months later when we knew a lot more - and particularly after we had effective vaccines - it was a disaster to close schools for another year. The learning loss was enormous. And so too was the basic socialization of children. Formative brains do not do well in isolation. Kids need school for lots of reasons. Anyone who has spent any time in public schools lately can attest that this is often a pretty damaged group of kids.

It was a mistake to keep schools closed. Blame the teachers union. Blame the political polarization at that time. If you recall, keeping schools closed made you a good liberal. Wanting them open made you a heartless MAGA. It was an ugly time and we made a mistake shutting things down for kids.

+100. No notes.

Can't change the past. What do you want to do to help kids now? What you want to do to punish politicians and officials is a separate discussion, even though that is what you really want to discuss.