In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true

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Those who created the status quo are aggressively defending it. (Probably same small number of employees and supporters of all the groups, but, they are LOUD. They fill hearings and even fly people in. They dress in matching t shirts to create a visual block. The rest of us have to push back, imo.)

Email and call if you want a floor in the situation.

Help identify and support electable candidates with other views. Consider running like Lisa Gore did.

There is an open seat in Ward 7, someone with sensible views and a pro community outlook could be elected there.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when there was a movement called defund the police, which made clear that the goal was to defund the police. And all sorts of SJWs tried to tell us that the goal wasn't actually to defund the police, but just more accountability or something like that. But in fact, the goal was to defund the police -- make it so that police work was useless and criminals could do whatever they want and not be punished.

Kind of hilarious that they didn't hide the goal at all, and SJWs supported it. The criminals won -- they changed the dialogue so that criminals should not be punished and should be able to commit whatever crimes they want. It's amazing that in such an educated city, people are this gullible.

Next time, they should just call it, "We Love Criminals not Victims," and people would still support it. We'd probably hear from the gullible SJWs about how that just means that criminals are misunderstood and need to be supported, not that we actually value criminals more than victims.

I remember "Defund the Police" - but it didn't actually amount to much in terms of budget or policy. It mostly just made some cops think they shouldn't have to do their jobs anymore.

It meant a ton in terms of policy locally. Maybe you don’t pay attention to local news and politics, but many of us do.

It meant a ton in terms of police attitudes and opinions, they were upset about what a bunch of randos on the internet said - though DC got no more of that than any other city. In reality, the budgetary and policy impacts were minimal, especially when compared to cuts and policy changes in most other cities around the country. Yet in most other cities, police have gotten over it and have started doing their jobs again. It's long past due for MPD to do the same.

Not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve found MPD to be professional and have responded quickly whenever I’ve needed them. To your point though, unlike other cities DC is unique in that we are home to professional protesters. Literally people who put food on their tables by trying to exploit the sometimes justified use of force by police to advance national anti police policies. So if I’m a rank and file MPD officer I’m not going above and beyond unless it’s a clear life or death situation. Because trying to stop the retail theft or car thieves is going to inevitably lead to the need to go hands on. And no matter how justified I’m not risking my retirement or getting my family doxed. It’s just not worth it unless it’s life or death. And the criminals know it too, so it’s a complete free for all in the streets. This is what BLM has brought us.

DC has always been home to professional protesters. For decades. But the increase in crime is new, began with BLM protests, and UNLIKE other cities, has not declined and instead has gotten worse. And again, other cities had much bigger police budget cuts than DC. Other cities implemented more restrictive policies on police than DC. But they all seem to have moved on and are now addressing crime better than DC is. None of your comments actually address any of that. If other cities' police departments are no longer using BLM as an excuse, even though it had more of an impact on them than it did on MPD, then why is MPD still persisting in trying to use BLM as an excuse? Sorry, but I just can't see it as justifiable.

DC's prosecution rates are among the lowest in the country, both the federally appointed USAO and elected AG. That is an enormous part of the issue.

Leadership comes from the top. NO profession wants to be set up to fail. You want more visible policing? The directive and support needs to come from the Mayor and Council. Two police chiefs ago we had "all hands on deck' events, but that was criticized as too aggressive, waah waah. So was cordoning neighborhoods when crime spiked. Got to make decisions, fall within the law, but not so far within that law and order is absolutely toothless.
And BOTH Mayor and City Council need to call the USAO and AG on dropped charges and lame prosecution rates. However, when I read AG Graves' letter posted in another thread, he blamed sentencing guidlines, which boomerangs back to the Council. See how this works? So much finger-pointing.

Didn't the latest Council proposal call for a detailed dashboard? How about having a dashboard that tracks, for EVERY case, and EVERY call why it didn't result in prosecution, from cradle to grave? Like, how many did Council actually prevent because of policy? How many did the prosecutors drop the ball on, and why? With enough data and details, the truth will emerge, and the finger pointing and shifting of blame will come to a fast end.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when there was a movement called defund the police, which made clear that the goal was to defund the police. And all sorts of SJWs tried to tell us that the goal wasn't actually to defund the police, but just more accountability or something like that. But in fact, the goal was to defund the police -- make it so that police work was useless and criminals could do whatever they want and not be punished.

Kind of hilarious that they didn't hide the goal at all, and SJWs supported it. The criminals won -- they changed the dialogue so that criminals should not be punished and should be able to commit whatever crimes they want. It's amazing that in such an educated city, people are this gullible.

Next time, they should just call it, "We Love Criminals not Victims," and people would still support it. We'd probably hear from the gullible SJWs about how that just means that criminals are misunderstood and need to be supported, not that we actually value criminals more than victims.

I remember "Defund the Police" - but it didn't actually amount to much in terms of budget or policy. It mostly just made some cops think they shouldn't have to do their jobs anymore.

It meant a ton in terms of policy locally. Maybe you don’t pay attention to local news and politics, but many of us do.

It meant a ton in terms of police attitudes and opinions, they were upset about what a bunch of randos on the internet said - though DC got no more of that than any other city. In reality, the budgetary and policy impacts were minimal, especially when compared to cuts and policy changes in most other cities around the country. Yet in most other cities, police have gotten over it and have started doing their jobs again. It's long past due for MPD to do the same.

Not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve found MPD to be professional and have responded quickly whenever I’ve needed them. To your point though, unlike other cities DC is unique in that we are home to professional protesters. Literally people who put food on their tables by trying to exploit the sometimes justified use of force by police to advance national anti police policies. So if I’m a rank and file MPD officer I’m not going above and beyond unless it’s a clear life or death situation. Because trying to stop the retail theft or car thieves is going to inevitably lead to the need to go hands on. And no matter how justified I’m not risking my retirement or getting my family doxed. It’s just not worth it unless it’s life or death. And the criminals know it too, so it’s a complete free for all in the streets. This is what BLM has brought us.

DC has always been home to professional protesters. For decades. But the increase in crime is new, began with BLM protests, and UNLIKE other cities, has not declined and instead has gotten worse. And again, other cities had much bigger police budget cuts than DC. Other cities implemented more restrictive policies on police than DC. But they all seem to have moved on and are now addressing crime better than DC is. None of your comments actually address any of that. If other cities' police departments are no longer using BLM as an excuse, even though it had more of an impact on them than it did on MPD, then why is MPD still persisting in trying to use BLM as an excuse? Sorry, but I just can't see it as justifiable.

DC's prosecution rates are among the lowest in the country, both the federally appointed USAO and elected AG. That is an enormous part of the issue.

That still doesn't justify police not doing their jobs. When the prosecutors don't prosecute, it's the prosecutors' fault. But when the police don't arrest, it becomes the police's fault. The police need to stop making it their own fault.

You're getting the policing you asked for and voted for. You should be happy.

You seem deranged and delusional.

HOW AND WHEN did I vote on this, specifically? Which candidates ran on a platform of promising far more crime and 50% less arrests and which candidate ran AGAINST them promising much better policing and a reduction in crime? Which Mayor or members of Council ordered MPD to start making 50% fewer arrests?

All you seem to want to do is a lot of handwaving and hyperbolic distortions about "Defund the Police" which didn't really even happen - https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/defund-police-mpd-black-lives-matter-protests/65-29baa332-d23d-40b3-82e1-6e0e8d8de384 or pointing at some statements by randos who don't even make DC policy but who said some things you don't like.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when there was a movement called defund the police, which made clear that the goal was to defund the police. And all sorts of SJWs tried to tell us that the goal wasn't actually to defund the police, but just more accountability or something like that. But in fact, the goal was to defund the police -- make it so that police work was useless and criminals could do whatever they want and not be punished.

Kind of hilarious that they didn't hide the goal at all, and SJWs supported it. The criminals won -- they changed the dialogue so that criminals should not be punished and should be able to commit whatever crimes they want. It's amazing that in such an educated city, people are this gullible.

Next time, they should just call it, "We Love Criminals not Victims," and people would still support it. We'd probably hear from the gullible SJWs about how that just means that criminals are misunderstood and need to be supported, not that we actually value criminals more than victims.

I remember "Defund the Police" - but it didn't actually amount to much in terms of budget or policy. It mostly just made some cops think they shouldn't have to do their jobs anymore.

It meant a ton in terms of policy locally. Maybe you don’t pay attention to local news and politics, but many of us do.

It meant a ton in terms of police attitudes and opinions, they were upset about what a bunch of randos on the internet said - though DC got no more of that than any other city. In reality, the budgetary and policy impacts were minimal, especially when compared to cuts and policy changes in most other cities around the country. Yet in most other cities, police have gotten over it and have started doing their jobs again. It's long past due for MPD to do the same.

Not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve found MPD to be professional and have responded quickly whenever I’ve needed them. To your point though, unlike other cities DC is unique in that we are home to professional protesters. Literally people who put food on their tables by trying to exploit the sometimes justified use of force by police to advance national anti police policies. So if I’m a rank and file MPD officer I’m not going above and beyond unless it’s a clear life or death situation. Because trying to stop the retail theft or car thieves is going to inevitably lead to the need to go hands on. And no matter how justified I’m not risking my retirement or getting my family doxed. It’s just not worth it unless it’s life or death. And the criminals know it too, so it’s a complete free for all in the streets. This is what BLM has brought us.

DC has always been home to professional protesters. For decades. But the increase in crime is new, began with BLM protests, and UNLIKE other cities, has not declined and instead has gotten worse. And again, other cities had much bigger police budget cuts than DC. Other cities implemented more restrictive policies on police than DC. But they all seem to have moved on and are now addressing crime better than DC is. None of your comments actually address any of that. If other cities' police departments are no longer using BLM as an excuse, even though it had more of an impact on them than it did on MPD, then why is MPD still persisting in trying to use BLM as an excuse? Sorry, but I just can't see it as justifiable.

Right. But in DC the professional protesters have infiltrated the government, at all levels. The police know the elected officials do not have heir backs. On the other hand, NYC elected an ex cop. That would never happen here. So we suffer in a death spiral.

https://anc3c.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ANC3C-Resolution-2021-012-in-Support-of-Proposals-by-DC-Police-Reform-Commission-Report-1.pdf

Comments like this make you sound unhinged. And when did a former cop or anyone else with a law enforcement background last bother to step up to run for office in DC? I guess they prefer to just snipe from the sidelines.

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And still, nothing in this thread can coherently explain why MPD arrests nosedived and crime spiked even though crime has decreased everywhere else including cities that cut police and treated police much worse than DC.

Someone said it starts with leadership and I'm starting to think it's with the DC police union leadership.

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Anonymous wrote:And still, nothing in this thread can coherently explain why MPD arrests nosedived and crime spiked even though crime has decreased everywhere else including cities that cut police and treated police much worse than DC.

Someone said it starts with leadership and I'm starting to think it's with the DC police union leadership.

Nope. The cops aren’t the problem here.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when there was a movement called defund the police, which made clear that the goal was to defund the police. And all sorts of SJWs tried to tell us that the goal wasn't actually to defund the police, but just more accountability or something like that. But in fact, the goal was to defund the police -- make it so that police work was useless and criminals could do whatever they want and not be punished.

Kind of hilarious that they didn't hide the goal at all, and SJWs supported it. The criminals won -- they changed the dialogue so that criminals should not be punished and should be able to commit whatever crimes they want. It's amazing that in such an educated city, people are this gullible.

Next time, they should just call it, "We Love Criminals not Victims," and people would still support it. We'd probably hear from the gullible SJWs about how that just means that criminals are misunderstood and need to be supported, not that we actually value criminals more than victims.

I remember "Defund the Police" - but it didn't actually amount to much in terms of budget or policy. It mostly just made some cops think they shouldn't have to do their jobs anymore.

It meant a ton in terms of policy locally. Maybe you don’t pay attention to local news and politics, but many of us do.

It meant a ton in terms of police attitudes and opinions, they were upset about what a bunch of randos on the internet said - though DC got no more of that than any other city. In reality, the budgetary and policy impacts were minimal, especially when compared to cuts and policy changes in most other cities around the country. Yet in most other cities, police have gotten over it and have started doing their jobs again. It's long past due for MPD to do the same.

Not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve found MPD to be professional and have responded quickly whenever I’ve needed them. To your point though, unlike other cities DC is unique in that we are home to professional protesters. Literally people who put food on their tables by trying to exploit the sometimes justified use of force by police to advance national anti police policies. So if I’m a rank and file MPD officer I’m not going above and beyond unless it’s a clear life or death situation. Because trying to stop the retail theft or car thieves is going to inevitably lead to the need to go hands on. And no matter how justified I’m not risking my retirement or getting my family doxed. It’s just not worth it unless it’s life or death. And the criminals know it too, so it’s a complete free for all in the streets. This is what BLM has brought us.

DC has always been home to professional protesters. For decades. But the increase in crime is new, began with BLM protests, and UNLIKE other cities, has not declined and instead has gotten worse. And again, other cities had much bigger police budget cuts than DC. Other cities implemented more restrictive policies on police than DC. But they all seem to have moved on and are now addressing crime better than DC is. None of your comments actually address any of that. If other cities' police departments are no longer using BLM as an excuse, even though it had more of an impact on them than it did on MPD, then why is MPD still persisting in trying to use BLM as an excuse? Sorry, but I just can't see it as justifiable.

DC's prosecution rates are among the lowest in the country, both the federally appointed USAO and elected AG. That is an enormous part of the issue.

That still doesn't justify police not doing their jobs. When the prosecutors don't prosecute, it's the prosecutors' fault. But when the police don't arrest, it becomes the police's fault. The police need to stop making it their own fault.

You're getting the policing you asked for and voted for. You should be happy.

You seem deranged and delusional.

HOW AND WHEN did I vote on this, specifically? Which candidates ran on a platform of promising far more crime and 50% less arrests and which candidate ran AGAINST them promising much better policing and a reduction in crime? Which Mayor or members of Council ordered MPD to start making 50% fewer arrests?

All you seem to want to do is a lot of handwaving and hyperbolic distortions about "Defund the Police" which didn't really even happen - https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/defund-police-mpd-black-lives-matter-protests/65-29baa332-d23d-40b3-82e1-6e0e8d8de384 or pointing at some statements by randos who don't even make DC policy but who said some things you don't like.

Once you’re done crying, go back and read the 2020 tweets from current members of the Council.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when there was a movement called defund the police, which made clear that the goal was to defund the police. And all sorts of SJWs tried to tell us that the goal wasn't actually to defund the police, but just more accountability or something like that. But in fact, the goal was to defund the police -- make it so that police work was useless and criminals could do whatever they want and not be punished.

Kind of hilarious that they didn't hide the goal at all, and SJWs supported it. The criminals won -- they changed the dialogue so that criminals should not be punished and should be able to commit whatever crimes they want. It's amazing that in such an educated city, people are this gullible.

Next time, they should just call it, "We Love Criminals not Victims," and people would still support it. We'd probably hear from the gullible SJWs about how that just means that criminals are misunderstood and need to be supported, not that we actually value criminals more than victims.

I remember "Defund the Police" - but it didn't actually amount to much in terms of budget or policy. It mostly just made some cops think they shouldn't have to do their jobs anymore.

It meant a ton in terms of policy locally. Maybe you don’t pay attention to local news and politics, but many of us do.

It meant a ton in terms of police attitudes and opinions, they were upset about what a bunch of randos on the internet said - though DC got no more of that than any other city. In reality, the budgetary and policy impacts were minimal, especially when compared to cuts and policy changes in most other cities around the country. Yet in most other cities, police have gotten over it and have started doing their jobs again. It's long past due for MPD to do the same.

Not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve found MPD to be professional and have responded quickly whenever I’ve needed them. To your point though, unlike other cities DC is unique in that we are home to professional protesters. Literally people who put food on their tables by trying to exploit the sometimes justified use of force by police to advance national anti police policies. So if I’m a rank and file MPD officer I’m not going above and beyond unless it’s a clear life or death situation. Because trying to stop the retail theft or car thieves is going to inevitably lead to the need to go hands on. And no matter how justified I’m not risking my retirement or getting my family doxed. It’s just not worth it unless it’s life or death. And the criminals know it too, so it’s a complete free for all in the streets. This is what BLM has brought us.

DC has always been home to professional protesters. For decades. But the increase in crime is new, began with BLM protests, and UNLIKE other cities, has not declined and instead has gotten worse. And again, other cities had much bigger police budget cuts than DC. Other cities implemented more restrictive policies on police than DC. But they all seem to have moved on and are now addressing crime better than DC is. None of your comments actually address any of that. If other cities' police departments are no longer using BLM as an excuse, even though it had more of an impact on them than it did on MPD, then why is MPD still persisting in trying to use BLM as an excuse? Sorry, but I just can't see it as justifiable.

DC's prosecution rates are among the lowest in the country, both the federally appointed USAO and elected AG. That is an enormous part of the issue.

That still doesn't justify police not doing their jobs. When the prosecutors don't prosecute, it's the prosecutors' fault. But when the police don't arrest, it becomes the police's fault. The police need to stop making it their own fault.

You're getting the policing you asked for and voted for. You should be happy.

You seem deranged and delusional.

HOW AND WHEN did I vote on this, specifically? Which candidates ran on a platform of promising far more crime and 50% less arrests and which candidate ran AGAINST them promising much better policing and a reduction in crime? Which Mayor or members of Council ordered MPD to start making 50% fewer arrests?

All you seem to want to do is a lot of handwaving and hyperbolic distortions about "Defund the Police" which didn't really even happen - https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/defund-police-mpd-black-lives-matter-protests/65-29baa332-d23d-40b3-82e1-6e0e8d8de384 or pointing at some statements by randos who don't even make DC policy but who said some things you don't like.

Where do you you live? This guy ran for Ward 3 city council a year and change ago (Chehs seat) - his platform called for more police - pretty specific. Frumins called for "public safety and bike safety" -the usual vague promises on which he delivered vagueness. Maybe next time vote for the one with tangibles?

"Krucoff’s platform includes more investment in the city’s police department, lowering taxes and improving schools. Krucoff said he wants to get tough on the National Park Service about maintaining federal lands and to also get more workers to return downtown by pushing the federal government to order employees to return to the office."

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when there was a movement called defund the police, which made clear that the goal was to defund the police. And all sorts of SJWs tried to tell us that the goal wasn't actually to defund the police, but just more accountability or something like that. But in fact, the goal was to defund the police -- make it so that police work was useless and criminals could do whatever they want and not be punished.

Kind of hilarious that they didn't hide the goal at all, and SJWs supported it. The criminals won -- they changed the dialogue so that criminals should not be punished and should be able to commit whatever crimes they want. It's amazing that in such an educated city, people are this gullible.

Next time, they should just call it, "We Love Criminals not Victims," and people would still support it. We'd probably hear from the gullible SJWs about how that just means that criminals are misunderstood and need to be supported, not that we actually value criminals more than victims.

I remember "Defund the Police" - but it didn't actually amount to much in terms of budget or policy. It mostly just made some cops think they shouldn't have to do their jobs anymore.

It meant a ton in terms of policy locally. Maybe you don’t pay attention to local news and politics, but many of us do.

It meant a ton in terms of police attitudes and opinions, they were upset about what a bunch of randos on the internet said - though DC got no more of that than any other city. In reality, the budgetary and policy impacts were minimal, especially when compared to cuts and policy changes in most other cities around the country. Yet in most other cities, police have gotten over it and have started doing their jobs again. It's long past due for MPD to do the same.

Not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve found MPD to be professional and have responded quickly whenever I’ve needed them. To your point though, unlike other cities DC is unique in that we are home to professional protesters. Literally people who put food on their tables by trying to exploit the sometimes justified use of force by police to advance national anti police policies. So if I’m a rank and file MPD officer I’m not going above and beyond unless it’s a clear life or death situation. Because trying to stop the retail theft or car thieves is going to inevitably lead to the need to go hands on. And no matter how justified I’m not risking my retirement or getting my family doxed. It’s just not worth it unless it’s life or death. And the criminals know it too, so it’s a complete free for all in the streets. This is what BLM has brought us.

DC has always been home to professional protesters. For decades. But the increase in crime is new, began with BLM protests, and UNLIKE other cities, has not declined and instead has gotten worse. And again, other cities had much bigger police budget cuts than DC. Other cities implemented more restrictive policies on police than DC. But they all seem to have moved on and are now addressing crime better than DC is. None of your comments actually address any of that. If other cities' police departments are no longer using BLM as an excuse, even though it had more of an impact on them than it did on MPD, then why is MPD still persisting in trying to use BLM as an excuse? Sorry, but I just can't see it as justifiable.

DC's prosecution rates are among the lowest in the country, both the federally appointed USAO and elected AG. That is an enormous part of the issue.

That still doesn't justify police not doing their jobs. When the prosecutors don't prosecute, it's the prosecutors' fault. But when the police don't arrest, it becomes the police's fault. The police need to stop making it their own fault.

You're getting the policing you asked for and voted for. You should be happy.

You seem deranged and delusional.

HOW AND WHEN did I vote on this, specifically? Which candidates ran on a platform of promising far more crime and 50% less arrests and which candidate ran AGAINST them promising much better policing and a reduction in crime? Which Mayor or members of Council ordered MPD to start making 50% fewer arrests?

All you seem to want to do is a lot of handwaving and hyperbolic distortions about "Defund the Police" which didn't really even happen - https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/defund-police-mpd-black-lives-matter-protests/65-29baa332-d23d-40b3-82e1-6e0e8d8de384 or pointing at some statements by randos who don't even make DC policy but who said some things you don't like.

Janeese Lewis George explicitly campaigned on defunding the police. She isn’t shy about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when there was a movement called defund the police, which made clear that the goal was to defund the police. And all sorts of SJWs tried to tell us that the goal wasn't actually to defund the police, but just more accountability or something like that. But in fact, the goal was to defund the police -- make it so that police work was useless and criminals could do whatever they want and not be punished.

Kind of hilarious that they didn't hide the goal at all, and SJWs supported it. The criminals won -- they changed the dialogue so that criminals should not be punished and should be able to commit whatever crimes they want. It's amazing that in such an educated city, people are this gullible.

Next time, they should just call it, "We Love Criminals not Victims," and people would still support it. We'd probably hear from the gullible SJWs about how that just means that criminals are misunderstood and need to be supported, not that we actually value criminals more than victims.

I remember "Defund the Police" - but it didn't actually amount to much in terms of budget or policy. It mostly just made some cops think they shouldn't have to do their jobs anymore.

It meant a ton in terms of policy locally. Maybe you don’t pay attention to local news and politics, but many of us do.

It meant a ton in terms of police attitudes and opinions, they were upset about what a bunch of randos on the internet said - though DC got no more of that than any other city. In reality, the budgetary and policy impacts were minimal, especially when compared to cuts and policy changes in most other cities around the country. Yet in most other cities, police have gotten over it and have started doing their jobs again. It's long past due for MPD to do the same.

Not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve found MPD to be professional and have responded quickly whenever I’ve needed them. To your point though, unlike other cities DC is unique in that we are home to professional protesters. Literally people who put food on their tables by trying to exploit the sometimes justified use of force by police to advance national anti police policies. So if I’m a rank and file MPD officer I’m not going above and beyond unless it’s a clear life or death situation. Because trying to stop the retail theft or car thieves is going to inevitably lead to the need to go hands on. And no matter how justified I’m not risking my retirement or getting my family doxed. It’s just not worth it unless it’s life or death. And the criminals know it too, so it’s a complete free for all in the streets. This is what BLM has brought us.

DC has always been home to professional protesters. For decades. But the increase in crime is new, began with BLM protests, and UNLIKE other cities, has not declined and instead has gotten worse. And again, other cities had much bigger police budget cuts than DC. Other cities implemented more restrictive policies on police than DC. But they all seem to have moved on and are now addressing crime better than DC is. None of your comments actually address any of that. If other cities' police departments are no longer using BLM as an excuse, even though it had more of an impact on them than it did on MPD, then why is MPD still persisting in trying to use BLM as an excuse? Sorry, but I just can't see it as justifiable.

DC's prosecution rates are among the lowest in the country, both the federally appointed USAO and elected AG. That is an enormous part of the issue.

That still doesn't justify police not doing their jobs. When the prosecutors don't prosecute, it's the prosecutors' fault. But when the police don't arrest, it becomes the police's fault. The police need to stop making it their own fault.

You're getting the policing you asked for and voted for. You should be happy.

You seem deranged and delusional.

HOW AND WHEN did I vote on this, specifically? Which candidates ran on a platform of promising far more crime and 50% less arrests and which candidate ran AGAINST them promising much better policing and a reduction in crime? Which Mayor or members of Council ordered MPD to start making 50% fewer arrests?

All you seem to want to do is a lot of handwaving and hyperbolic distortions about "Defund the Police" which didn't really even happen - https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/defund-police-mpd-black-lives-matter-protests/65-29baa332-d23d-40b3-82e1-6e0e8d8de384 or pointing at some statements by randos who don't even make DC policy but who said some things you don't like.

Janeese Lewis George explicitly campaigned on defunding the police. She isn’t shy about it.

Allen and Nadeau, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when there was a movement called defund the police, which made clear that the goal was to defund the police. And all sorts of SJWs tried to tell us that the goal wasn't actually to defund the police, but just more accountability or something like that. But in fact, the goal was to defund the police -- make it so that police work was useless and criminals could do whatever they want and not be punished.

Kind of hilarious that they didn't hide the goal at all, and SJWs supported it. The criminals won -- they changed the dialogue so that criminals should not be punished and should be able to commit whatever crimes they want. It's amazing that in such an educated city, people are this gullible.

Next time, they should just call it, "We Love Criminals not Victims," and people would still support it. We'd probably hear from the gullible SJWs about how that just means that criminals are misunderstood and need to be supported, not that we actually value criminals more than victims.

I remember "Defund the Police" - but it didn't actually amount to much in terms of budget or policy. It mostly just made some cops think they shouldn't have to do their jobs anymore.

It meant a ton in terms of policy locally. Maybe you don’t pay attention to local news and politics, but many of us do.

It meant a ton in terms of police attitudes and opinions, they were upset about what a bunch of randos on the internet said - though DC got no more of that than any other city. In reality, the budgetary and policy impacts were minimal, especially when compared to cuts and policy changes in most other cities around the country. Yet in most other cities, police have gotten over it and have started doing their jobs again. It's long past due for MPD to do the same.

Not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve found MPD to be professional and have responded quickly whenever I’ve needed them. To your point though, unlike other cities DC is unique in that we are home to professional protesters. Literally people who put food on their tables by trying to exploit the sometimes justified use of force by police to advance national anti police policies. So if I’m a rank and file MPD officer I’m not going above and beyond unless it’s a clear life or death situation. Because trying to stop the retail theft or car thieves is going to inevitably lead to the need to go hands on. And no matter how justified I’m not risking my retirement or getting my family doxed. It’s just not worth it unless it’s life or death. And the criminals know it too, so it’s a complete free for all in the streets. This is what BLM has brought us.

DC has always been home to professional protesters. For decades. But the increase in crime is new, began with BLM protests, and UNLIKE other cities, has not declined and instead has gotten worse. And again, other cities had much bigger police budget cuts than DC. Other cities implemented more restrictive policies on police than DC. But they all seem to have moved on and are now addressing crime better than DC is. None of your comments actually address any of that. If other cities' police departments are no longer using BLM as an excuse, even though it had more of an impact on them than it did on MPD, then why is MPD still persisting in trying to use BLM as an excuse? Sorry, but I just can't see it as justifiable.

Right. But in DC the professional protesters have infiltrated the government, at all levels. The police know the elected officials do not have heir backs. On the other hand, NYC elected an ex cop. That would never happen here. So we suffer in a death spiral.

https://anc3c.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ANC3C-Resolution-2021-012-in-Support-of-Proposals-by-DC-Police-Reform-Commission-Report-1.pdf

Comments like this make you sound unhinged. And when did a former cop or anyone else with a law enforcement background last bother to step up to run for office in DC? I guess they prefer to just snipe from the sidelines.

I think the ward 4 candidate is former LEO.

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Anonymous wrote:And still, nothing in this thread can coherently explain why MPD arrests nosedived and crime spiked even though crime has decreased everywhere else including cities that cut police and treated police much worse than DC.

Someone said it starts with leadership and I'm starting to think it's with the DC police union leadership.

The DSA has been message testing this talking point that police are sitting on their hands. And exactly zero people believe this.

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Didn't Allen have aspirations for national office? He and JLG are becoming infamous at least...

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is the white leftists, not the cops.

This, and the incessant messaging and basically writing legislation and talking points for the Council. Openly. No one elected The Sentencing Project or DCJL or DSA but...

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Allen have aspirations for national office? He and JLG are becoming infamous at least...

Not in their wards but happy to support challenges/recalls. If someone posts a link, I'll donate. Tia!