Wake forest--not sure you could get whiter or preppier

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Isn't Wake Forest Baptist? How can a Catholic go there?
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Anonymous wrote:My son is a POC but you’d never know by looking at him. He’s pretty white looking but he is half Hispanic.


Well then he isn’t a POC, is he? It’s not a euphemism for having a rich cultural background. It literally refers to the color of one’s skins and racism that may be experienced because of it.


Wait - Since when does POC only refer to people that actually look non-white? My DC’s buddy is half black, but has golden blond straight hair. Siblings are more obviously mixed race. However, they all identify strongly as black. Are you saying kid isn’t POC? What??


NP. I take the term literally. A POC literally has to have skin that is darker than the norm and be obviously not Caucasian. As a pp said, the term POC is not its own ethnic group.


It’s a term that also refers to culture, not just literal skin color. I’m South Asian and have several relatives who are 100% South Asian (Indian) and have skin as light as many white people. Conversely, my skin is quite a bit darker than some of my Black colleagues. You must have a very homogenous circle not to know that skin color can vary quite a bit even among people of the same race/ethnicity.


Nope, sorry. A person of COLOR is just that.


On the off chance that you aren’t trolling https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/person%20of%20color and https://www.wikiwand.com/simple/Person_of_color.

I’ve provided both the dictionary definition with multiple ways it can be defined and the historical context of the usage. You are welcome.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't Wake Forest Baptist? How can a Catholic go there?


No it has had no religious affiliation since the 1980s.
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Anonymous wrote:Isn't Wake Forest Baptist? How can a Catholic go there?


No it has had no religious affiliation since the 1980s.


We had one religion class in our core curriculum and of course Wait Chapel was still there. Other than that, there were religious student groups.
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Anonymous wrote:My son is a POC but you’d never know by looking at him. He’s pretty white looking but he is half Hispanic.


Well then he isn’t a POC, is he? It’s not a euphemism for having a rich cultural background. It literally refers to the color of one’s skins and racism that may be experienced because of it.


Wait - Since when does POC only refer to people that actually look non-white? My DC’s buddy is half black, but has golden blond straight hair. Siblings are more obviously mixed race. However, they all identify strongly as black. Are you saying kid isn’t POC? What??


NP. I take the term literally. A POC literally has to have skin that is darker than the norm and be obviously not Caucasian. As a pp said, the term POC is not its own ethnic group.


It’s a term that also refers to culture, not just literal skin color. I’m South Asian and have several relatives who are 100% South Asian (Indian) and have skin as light as many white people. Conversely, my skin is quite a bit darker than some of my Black colleagues. You must have a very homogenous circle not to know that skin color can vary quite a bit even among people of the same race/ethnicity.


Nope, sorry. A person of COLOR is just that.


On the off chance that you aren’t trolling https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/person%20of%20color and https://www.wikiwand.com/simple/Person_of_color.

I’ve provided both the dictionary definition with multiple ways it can be defined and the historical context of the usage. You are welcome.



Oh sure. Except that is not how 99% of people view it in the real world. Good luck changing that perception
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Anonymous wrote:Isn't Wake Forest Baptist? How can a Catholic go there?


No it has had no religious affiliation since the 1980s.


We had one religion class in our core curriculum and of course Wait Chapel was still there. Other than that, there were religious student groups.


Is this the poster from the 1990s? Wait Chapel is just a standard issue auditorium now, absolutely nothing religious about it. Quite different, for example, from the chapels at Princeton and Duke.

There is also no longer a requirement to take a religion class, although one can take a religion class to count towards the humanities requirement.
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Anonymous wrote:Isn't Wake Forest Baptist? How can a Catholic go there?


No it has had no religious affiliation since the 1980s.


We had one religion class in our core curriculum and of course Wait Chapel was still there. Other than that, there were religious student groups.


Is this the poster from the 1990s? Wait Chapel is just a standard issue auditorium now, absolutely nothing religious about it. Quite different, for example, from the chapels at Princeton and Duke.

There is also no longer a requirement to take a religion class, although one can take a religion class to count towards the humanities requirement.


oh, interesting. They no longer hold church services in the chapel on Sunday? I mean, it wasn't for the college, it was for church members from winston at large.

glad they got rid of the religion requirement - that was one of my worst classes. It was probably the prof I had, but it was pretty much reading the bible and writing reviews. It was total crap and a waste of time.
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I'm inclined to agree that when POC is used it's primarily by blacks to mean blacks. Rarely is it used for other races, who have quite different histories.

I was an expat for more than a decade in the Middle East and SE Asia and the affluent Middle Easterners and Asians are extremely well dressed and would be right at home in a dressy Southern university. OP's implication that to dress nicely means you can't be a "person of color" is bizarre and quite racist.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm inclined to agree that when POC is used it's primarily by blacks to mean blacks. Rarely is it used for other races, who have quite different histories.

I was an expat for more than a decade in the Middle East and SE Asia and the affluent Middle Easterners and Asians are extremely well dressed and would be right at home in a dressy Southern university. OP's implication that to dress nicely means you can't be a "person of color" is bizarre and quite racist.


A few of the pp defined POC as skin color which is only one definition. Within the black community your can have many different skin tones.

That brings me to the second point and I agree with the Southern dressy comment being bizarre. I’m not sure what is more offensive, the insistence that there is only one way to be x - Black, Asian etc. or that the people defining it are not within that group. It would never occur to me to tell someone all about what it’s like to be a 5’3 woman growing up in California with red hair living near LA, what they are thinking, how they should behave, how they should dress, explaining to you why they are only applying to UCs schools and wouldn’t want to attend x school when I have not lived a day of my life in that existence. And still would not do it even if one my best friends was that person.
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Anonymous wrote:My son is a POC but you’d never know by looking at him. He’s pretty white looking but he is half Hispanic.


Well then he isn’t a POC, is he? It’s not a euphemism for having a rich cultural background. It literally refers to the color of one’s skins and racism that may be experienced because of it.


Wait - Since when does POC only refer to people that actually look non-white? My DC’s buddy is half black, but has golden blond straight hair. Siblings are more obviously mixed race. However, they all identify strongly as black. Are you saying kid isn’t POC? What??


NP. I take the term literally. A POC literally has to have skin that is darker than the norm and be obviously not Caucasian. As a pp said, the term POC is not its own ethnic group.


Source?
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How would Wake be for a gender fluid Asian American?
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Anonymous wrote:Indian person here—whether a person styles themselves as preppy, nerdy or punk, does mot make them more or less south asian. Now wealthy country club may not be the scene your kid is looking for, and that’s fine. I went to Exeter (and wasn’t preppy), and chose a school in a city to experience a different scene.



+100
Another South Asian mom who is tired of people labeling South Asian girls as white-washed.
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Anonymous wrote:How would Wake be for a gender fluid Asian American?


well, you would certainly stand out.
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Anonymous wrote:Isn't Wake Forest Baptist? How can a Catholic go there?


WTF? First, No. WF is not Baptist.

Second, you realize soooooo many non-Catholics attend the many Catholic universities: georgetown, notre dame, villanova, fordham, boston college, etc., etc., etc. In fact, go over to the private school forum and see just how many non-Catholics want to go to Visi, Prep, Gonzaga, St. John's, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:Indian person here—whether a person styles themselves as preppy, nerdy or punk, does mot make them more or less south asian. Now wealthy country club may not be the scene your kid is looking for, and that’s fine. I went to Exeter (and wasn’t preppy), and chose a school in a city to experience a different scene.



+100
Another South Asian mom who is tired of people labeling South Asian girls as white-washed.


+1000 what do “non-white-washed” brown girls look like?
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